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House of Representatives Rebukes Joe Wilson for 'You Lie' Outburst

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The House of Representatives this afternoon passed a resolution, which was introduced earlier by Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-MD), rebuking Joe Wilson for his "you lie!" outburst during President Obama's health care speech. 

The vote, and Hoyer's speech, AFTER THE JUMP...

Conservatives have already begun screaming "hypocrisy", pointing to a 2007 speech by Rep. Pete Stark, calling Bush a liar. Joe Wilson apologized shortly after the outburst, but the Democrats are apparently asked for one on the House floor, and he refused, according to Crooks and Liars.

They write: "If there is any hypocrisy here, it is on the part of Republicans. They wanted to censure Pete Stark, but couldn’t do it since they were in the minority (remember – elections have consequences). But when it comes to Joe Wilson, they are circling the wagons."

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  1. Sorry for the payback. Racist bastard.

    Posted by: Paul R | Sep 15, 2009 7:51:17 PM


  2. Republicans can pitch fits all they want - they know their friend was in the wrong for throwing a temper tantrum and yelling at the president. I taught 4th graders and when someone interrupted me there were consequences.

    Posted by: KFLO | Sep 15, 2009 9:44:00 PM


  3. Both Republicans and Democrats are hypocrites and babies. Each side just gets mad at the other that does it, when they all do exactly the same.

    Posted by: JT | Sep 15, 2009 10:21:13 PM


  4. Though I disagree with Wilson shouting out like that. Very bad taste. Terrible. This is not England. (Even if Obama, like every politician, probably is a liar).

    Posted by: JT | Sep 15, 2009 10:24:03 PM


  5. again they show they are Republicans first and Americans second --- 166 would not even reprimand one of their own for this live offense that was broadcast around the world during 2 wars

    not shocking any more --- but yet another reason Republicans are not welcome in my home and told so ... and why I would never even consider sleeping with one ... ever

    Posted by: willie | Sep 15, 2009 10:40:53 PM


  6. JT .... hopefully someday you will learn the very real differences between those who support the Republican Party and those who support the Democratic Party.... it is not anywhere near the same .... and I dont sit by and let that lie of "sameness" be spread

    Posted by: willie | Sep 15, 2009 11:10:21 PM


  7. Someone from the House of Commons in England said that if that would have happened in England, security guards would have escorted Wilson out. [Even though they yell and argue a lot.]

    Posted by: Roralot | Sep 15, 2009 11:11:06 PM


  8. @Roralot

    Yes. Because the yelling takes place within the rules not outside of them. They're allowed to do that.

    The Republicans try to muddy the waters by invoking PMQ. But a State of the Union address - either official or otherwise - is hardly the same type of event.

    In fact, what American presidents do is more like the Speech from the Throne than anything else. It is pomp and pagentry chereographed to the last second. The president always travels the same route down Pennsylvania Avenue. The military band outside always plays the same song. The generals, judges, and cabinet members enter the House by order of precedence. Even the standing ovations and applause are regulated.

    You can heckle the Prime Minister during question time because he or she is an MP. As a member of the House, the Prime Minister does not enjoy the special privileges normally associated with a Head of State. But nobody heckles the Queen.

    In fact, when some dared to jeer her during a speech announcing the abolishment of hereditary peers, the response was immediate and harsh. Loud echos of "SHAME, SHAME, SHAME" drowned them out. They were then escorted out the chamber by Black Rod. The following week they were expelled.

    Even though all of the Queen's official speeches are written by "her government" (i.e. expressing the opinion of the Prime Minister and not her personal view), it is considered the ultimate faux pas to interrupt the monarch during a policy address. You just don't do it.

    Posted by: John | Sep 16, 2009 2:20:23 AM


  9. Thanks, John. That explanation pretty much kicks ass (sorry not to be as eloquent as you).

    Posted by: Paul R | Sep 16, 2009 5:20:21 AM


  10. The one thing that I find interesting is that Rep. Pete Stark (D-CA) made his criticisms of the president during debate on the house floor, not during a joint session of congress Presidential speech. The only similarity between these two situations are both people, Wilson and Stark, called the President a liar. The only thing is, Stark was right and Wilson was in fact the liar.

    Posted by: cd_2186 | Sep 16, 2009 1:55:40 PM


  11. I think Mr Wilson was right to voice his opinion. Furthermore, who in their right mind would equate Uncle Obie with any kind of monarch? I bet the queen would never have bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia!

    Posted by: JIM | Sep 16, 2009 5:15:54 PM


  12. It's safe to assume had a Democrat yelled "You tell 'em, Mr. President!", they too would have been rebuked.

    Because that stuff just isn't acceptable.

    Posted by: Mark | Sep 16, 2009 6:25:41 PM


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