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  1. George McGinnis says

    I am a little disappointed in Barney Frank. Even if the support is not there that is no excuse to retreat. That is giving up without a fight. Even if it fails the lawsuits are still in process. We should fight on all fronts available to us. Quit being so complacent.

  2. MTzz17by says

    Is this the same gay leadership that refuses to do anything in California for the next couple of years? They are happy to let other do the work and get behind it, but God forbid they should be proactive themselves!

  3. says

    I’m disappointed in Frank, too. He’s become the House spokesperson for all things gay, so for him to hold back sends a message that queers don’t want these changes.

    (Also wanted to let you know that Google Ads was serving up a Joe Wilson for Congress ad on the page I landed on.)

  4. Pender says

    I think Frank’s in the wrong on this one. More visibility and forcing Senators to make tough decisions publicly can only help us. At the very least, we’d know who our friends were.

    At the same time, I wonder if a better first step might have been a bill that repealed only the section of DOMA that prevented federal recognition, but let states continue to deny other states’ same-sex marriages. I’d rather pass an imperfect bill than not pass a perfect one.

  5. David in Houston says

    I am a LOT disappointed in Barney Frank. So, Barney, when is the right time to repeal DOMA? 4 years? 10 years? 50 years? Give me a fucking break! The president wants it repealed. Not trying is NOT the solution. Get on board, Barney or get out of the way!

  6. mike says

    I think Rep. Frank is being pragmatic and realistic. I support Rep. Nadler 100% as he has been a reliable friend to the LGBT community for a long time. Perhaps the bill would make a statement, but in reality, right now, with all the vitriol over Obama’s efforts to fix the economy and health care, a bill to repeal DOMA might be a little too much. The Democrats won in 2006 and 2008. We need to solidify those victories even further. After 2010, if we can expand our Congressional majorities, then will be the time for DOMA and DODT and other heartfelt progressive issues. Let’s make sure the progressive majority STAYS the majority.

  7. Layla Miller says

    Hysteria, Obsession, and Narcissism in the Homophobic Right By Austin Cline
    Thursday November 16, 2006

    Isn’t interesting how often religious conservatives treat homosexuality and gay marriage like they are the most pressing and dangerous issues facing Western culture? Even if we grant, for the sake of argument, that there are legitimate reasons to oppose them and be concerned about them, how can anyone justify acting like they threaten the very foundations of civilization? William Eskridge, a Yale law professor, has written that anti-gay prejudice has been marked historically by three characteristics. These are: (1) “hysterical demonization of gay people as dirty sexualized subhumans”; (2) “obsessional fears of gay people as conspiratorial and sexually predatory”; and (3) “narcissistic desires to reinforce stable heterosexual identity . . . by bashing gay people.” The primary historical traits of homophobia are thus hysteria, obsession, and narcissism.

    Source: IndeGayForum
    It’s worth stopping for a moment to consider how these same characteristics are also true when it comes to other demonized minorities. The exact same things could have been said about the hysterical anti-Semitic beliefs in Germany in the first half of the 20th century. Dale Carpenter describes how these three characteristics have been popping up in the context of the Foley scandal…

    Hysterical Demonization:

    We can see the first of these characteristics, hysteria, in some of the reactions to the Foley scandal. “While pro-homosexual activists like to claim that pedophilia is a completely distinct orientation from homosexuality, evidence shows a disproportionate overlap between the two,” declared Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.
    What Tony Perkins says isn’t true, but it’s also not the worst of the accusations which Christain extremists have been hurling at gays. It’s frankly no different from when vicious anti-Semites were accusing Jews of killing Christian children in religious rituals, a myth that goes back to the middle ages but which was also used by the Nazis to pave the way for their own anti-Semitic policies.

    Conspiracy of Gays:

    The second characteristic of anti-gay prejudice, obsession, has been on full display. Some Republicans in Congress and religious conservatives told reporters that they suspect a “gay subculture” has infiltrated the party. This “Velvet Mafia”—as some have called it—allegedly consists of a number of gay Republican congressional staffers and other personnel. A conservative website asserted that the gay conspiracy includes nine chiefs of staff, two press secretaries, and two directors of communications for prominent congressional Republicans.
    Once again, there is no evidence for the truth these accusations — but it’s easier to accuse gays of these sorts of misdeeds when they have already been the targets of so much demonization over the years than to admit to mistakes on one’s own part. Jews, too, were accused of all sorts of anti-German conspiracies; indeed, the idea that Jews threatened to undermine German culture was a primary motivating factor behind a significant amount of the hatred of Jews.

    Sexual Purification:

    Finally, the Foley mess has demonstrated the third characteristic of anti-gay prejudice, narcissism. If the GOP loses one or both houses of Congress in November, one supposed lesson will be that the party was too lenient on homosexuals—turning off the party’s base of religious conservatives. Some thus see the scandal as a chance to cleanse the GOP of the impurity of homosexuality, to reassert the party’s stable, pro-family heterosexual identity.
    The obsession with purity is a common characteristic with fundamentalist and extremist movements. Usually the purity involved is sexual in nature, though some other types appear from time to time. Many are surprised to learn just how much of a role ideas about sexual purity played with the earliest Nazi storm troopers. Their writings contain many images of fear of being overcome with sexual desire, female sexuality, the presence of women, and so forth.

    Extreme homophobia and extreme anti-Semitism have a lot in common because they stem from similar, deep-seated drives in a person’s personality. They both involve a need to exclude some minority as violently and absolutely as possible in order to solidify one’s own sense of self. A person’s identity becomes so bound up with what they are not that everything they do becomes part of denying that Other, even to the point of extermination.

  8. Layla Miller says

    Types of Narcissists
    Types of narcissists include:*

    Classic The classic narcissist is overly self-confident and sees themselves as superior than other people. Think of a child who has always been told by mom and dad that they would be great, and then that child takes and internally distorts that message into superiority.

    Compensatory The compensatory narcissist covers up with their grandiose behavior, a deep-seated deficit in self-esteem. Think of a child who felt devalued but instead of giving up on life, resorts to fantasies of grandeur and greatness. This person will either live in that fantasy world or decide to create that fantasy world in real life.

    Inverted The inverted narcissist is a co-dependent who caters to the emotional needs of a classic narcissist. Often a relative or mate of a narcissist– this person feeds the narcissistic supply of adulation, admiration, coddling etc. that the classic type requires.

    Narcissists are also either:*

    1. cerebral — people who feed their narcissistic needs from their intelligence, academic, or professional achievements. Examples would be evangelists, CEOs, professors, physicians etc.

    2. somatic — people who feed their narcissistic needs from their physicality, exercise, physical and sexual prowess including their “conquests”. Examples would be models, professional athletes, actors etc. To break it down even further, we can take a look at the 9-point model presented by Bruce Stevens in his article: ‘Narcissism: A Nine Headed Hydra? Exploring Types of Narcissism’. In it he describes:

    1. The Craver has a lot of love to give but always with strings attached. This type has a great fear of abandonment and clings to people they can connect with, but they are never satisfied.

    2. The Power Broker desires…well, power of course! They will do almost anything to gain power, and rarely consider any consequences of their actions. They can be bullies, arrogant, and cold. By any means necessary is their motto.

    3. The Rager is someone on the edge, and when their narcissism is bruised, they will lash out. These types are often verbally and/or physically abusive. Very controlling.

    4. The Fantasy Maker is the type that has retreated into their own reality, because they are living in defense of the painful reality of their lives. They do not live in truth and therefore have difficulty forming “real” relationships with others.

    5. The Special Lover is the type that believe love is the answer to all things. They believe that they have a special capacity to love and tend to idealize love and the people whom they love. Of course, they face deep disappointment when they realize that their love and/or the ones they love are not perfect.

    6. The Body Shaper is highly focused on their physical image. Fashion. glamour, Youth. Beauty. They live very shallow and empty lives, and they tend to deny ageing.

    7. The Trickster is an extremely charming and social type. These types can trick people into trusting them, but is very malicious and ruthless in these relationships. They feel a sense of entitlement and are without remorse.

    8. The Martyr revels in their suffering. They are victims and love telling people about it. THey totally identify with the pain they are dealing with in the present. They want care and support and will exploit others to get it. They tend to form relationships with others who have a need to be needed and then they are exploited. This is their way of controlling other people.

    9. The Rescuer is virtuous. They always take the high road in relationships. They appear kind, considerate, and they try too hard. They find it easier to give than to receive. This could be because they were a parentified child in a dysfunctional family.

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