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New York Marriage Equality: The Post-Vote Blame Game

Here are the eight "no" votes from Democrats on marriage equality in New York state today, along with their email addresses if you'd care to speak your mind. The percentage before their names (thanks to Towleroad commenter Tanner) represents — FYI — their 2008 general election percentages.

53% Aubertine (Upstate) -
53% Stachowski (Upstate) -
58% Addabbo (Queens) -
81% Onorato (Queens) -
93% Diaz (Bronx) -
93% Kruger (Kings) -
100% Huntley (Queens) -
100% Monserrate (Queens) -

Looks like efforts need to focus on Queens, where four of the eight senators reside.

Joe Sudbay at Americablog notes:

Ny In New York, a lot of gay money was spent to help Democrats retake control of the State Senate in New York last fall. That was documented in a piece in the New York Times on October 26, 2008, which included this excerpt:

Far from trumpeting their involvement, gay rights groups have been largely silent about their role in Senate campaigns for fear of raising the ire of social conservatives. But a review of campaign finance disclosure forms shows that gay and lesbian advocates have become a quiet but potent force this election season.

All told, gay rights groups and donors affiliated with them have given a total of at least $480,000 this year to Democratic Senate candidates and campaign funds controlled by Democrats, according to the most recent disclosure documents available. Much of that money was donated in the past month and pointed at a handful of competitive races, campaign finance filings show.

Important to remember Tom Duane's note though: "Today also brought home the fact that the State Senate must maintain a Democratic majority– and in even greater numbers. It was only under Democratic leadership that this vote was possible. We must also have a Governor willing to sign marriage equality into law."

Duane seemed confident before the vote that he had the numbers. I wonder where and why the rot began.

Of course this does not excuse the Republicans.

There were NO Republican "Yes" votes. 

You may recall that NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he could get a couple of Republican votes but then backtracked on those claims in mid-October.

Meanwhile, Log Cabin Republicans have been trumpeting since April that there were strong chances for Republican support because party leadership was allowing them to "vote their conscience."

Their homophobic, bigoted, religiously-influenced consciences, apparently.

So what did the Log Cabin Republicans do following the vote? They blamed Democrats:

"Today we share in the frustration and disappointment that the Senate did not pass the marriage equality bill. We are deeply saddened that the Democratic Conference failed to secure the votes they promised, undermining the possibility of a credible bipartisan vote of conscience on the merits of marriage equality. Winning marriage equality in New York requires the Democrats to keep their promises, and Log Cabin will continue to work to ensure that Republicans vote their conscience when that finally happens."

It's important to remember that a few years ago we wouldn't have even imagined taking a vote on marriage equality, so, yes, we have made progress, even in losing.

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  1. Well said Patric. Either way, we need to help Democrats ensure a win in 2010 to allow for districts to be redrawn in their favor. Then, perhaps, we can see some real change. It's unfortunate that political moves like this one are the reason for this.

    Posted by: Tyler | Dec 2, 2009 10:28:13 PM

  2. My letter to Carl Kruger

    Mr. Kruger-

    Apparently your memory isn't serving you very well today. In 2008, the Democratic Party appealed strongly and frequently to the LGBT community for help in winning a NYS Senate majority. We delivered in the form of money, manpower, and financial support. How quickly you forget.

    We maintain that same ability and, although you won the last election comfortably, I suggest you prepare yourself for the coming onslaught. You have proven yourself to be an enemy of the LGBT community. I can assure you that I and my friends, both gay and straight, now commit to defeating you during the next election cycle. We shall not only seek to unseat you from the Senate, but we shall work strenuously to destroy your chances of ever holding public office again as you have attempted to destroy the rights of the LGBT community.

    You have picked a fight and we are going to bring it to your doorstep. Your actions have just united a community against YOU.

    Brooklyn, NY

    Posted by: BrooklynRider | Dec 2, 2009 10:38:42 PM

  3. Hmmmmm . . .

    I seem to remember Towleroad Political Director Corey Johnson enthusiastically endorsing Michael Bloomberg for a stolen third term as mayor earlier this year.

    That would be THE SAME Michael Bloomberg who, according to Gay City News, provided an "extraordinary level of support for the Republican State Senate caucus during the past two election cycles, 2005-6 and 2007-8 -- when he contributed $1.175 MILLION in total to its campaign coffers."

    But Bloomberg's support of anti-gay Senate Republicans didn't stop at that paltry figure. GCN continues, noting that "a separate $1.2 MILLION contribution the mayor made last year to the New York State Independence Party was used to support four Senate candidates, including Padavan and two other gay marriage opponents . . ."


    But now Towleroad is a font of outrage over the failure of marriage equality to pass in the Senate.

    Posted by: 24play | Dec 2, 2009 11:37:34 PM

  4. The LCR statement is absurd. But the Republicans were at least consistent with their party platform. The problem here is with the Democrats - as a group they're spineless even when they have the majority. I'm finished supporting candidates based on promises. Now my money goes to funding the opponents of the people who screwed me - even to the benefit of a Repub candidate over a Democrat. I'd rather know my enemies and be able to count them than continue to be stabbed in the back.

    Posted by: Blake | Dec 3, 2009 12:08:04 AM

  5. The gay republiCONs statement: oh please. Those queens are so transparent!

    The LOG CABINETTES have just dug themselves a deeper whole. They have done NOTHING to advance GLBT equality.

    But then they are part of the "PARTY OF NO" ... what do you expect?

    Posted by: FunMe | Dec 3, 2009 12:28:01 AM

  6. From rich west village
    "It's sad to see that the no votes from the Democrats included minority senators (including Hispanic, African American & female). They of all people should be sensitive to civil rights issues. I for one would much rather have a Republican in their least we know what we're getting"

    Posted by: rich west village | Dec 2, 2009 8:11:51 PM

    Richie Boy...Why are you so hell bent on still blaming minorities for this. After all 9 African American St Senators voted for marriage. That's not GOOD ENOUGH for you? When a multitude of Caucasians voted against it????? I guess that's exceptable. My goodness just plain idiotic and stupid.

    Will you please stop creating anger levels based on race whomever is against us is simply NOT FOR US and we fight back against them not giving one group a pass and running after another to cover up the other group!

    HOMOPHOBIA is HOMOPHOBIA and God help these folks who keep using religion as their reason to keep another group down!

    As a Native New Yorker this is sad. I would have never thought in NY they would be so behind in the times! WOW...SMDH

    Posted by: NADA | Dec 3, 2009 1:28:54 AM

  7. Screw protesting on Times Square and the steps of the Capitol; save those for the kiss-ins!

    Picket the local offices of the Senators and Assemblypersons who voted against the bill.

    Picket Catholic and Orthodox Jewish services across the state! The Archdiocese is proclaiming how it protects the children and saves families.

    Point out some of the more ... unsavory ... dictates of their holy text, the ones their parishioners are less likely to know about. Point out the moral failings of their religious leaders. Point out how much they spent on these issues while not reinvesting in the Church. And cry out, cry out against divorce!

    Always peaceful, never personal, of course. Remember, hate the sin, but love the sinner. ;) The fault is not religion; it's abuse of religion. Use their tools against them.

    Posted by: Dave | Dec 3, 2009 2:32:46 AM

  8. @NADA: EXACTLY! I couldn't get my mind around why I get SO pissed when Blacks get blamed for every Gay thing that fails. You nailed my anger, the whites who voted against it were more than the Blacks, so, why do we get the blame?

    Would it make any sense for me to be scraeming "the whites hate Gays"? And I'm tired of hearing that "Blacks as a culture are homophobic." By that reasoning so are Asians, Latins, and, um, WHITES.


    Bigotry comes in all shades. There were some great people working on this issue and to turn it into a racial pile on just negates everything. It doesn't even give those people time to reflect because the conversation always gets twisted to pointing fingers.

    We lost because of hate, not race.

    Now, get the Fuck back on the horse and ride back into the fight.


    Posted by: Derek Washington | Dec 3, 2009 3:13:11 AM

  9. Derek,

    As always I love your posts and THANK YOU!


    Posted by: NADA | Dec 3, 2009 3:46:28 AM

  10. Apprently Diaz told another senator that you never leave your bible at home. Apprently, he doesn't know about seperation of church and state.

    Posted by: Zach | Dec 3, 2009 5:40:02 AM

  11. The Log Cabin Republicans statement is ridiculous, but what else do you expect them to say? Their whole premise is a fallacy and they have to continue to spew their doublespeak and bizarre forms of logic or else collapse weeping into their hands.

    Posted by: Gregoire | Dec 3, 2009 7:39:10 AM

  12. Patrick, I agree that all members with a percentage of 60% or less should be published and an effort to replace them with members who support full civil rights in NYS. Our overall strategy in NYS must be focused on placing representatives in office that are on the right side of history period!

    Posted by: Warren | Dec 3, 2009 10:21:15 AM

  13. BTW, back at Patric's comment: First, absolutely agree with you re how critical it is that Dems control both houses after 2010 in order to control redistricting.

    Second, I never intended to suggest that the LCR's position was justified, I'm with you, they're pigs. Was just trying to make some sense out of what they were saying factually.

    Finally, just one note for everyone who is bashing the Democrats as a whole here because they have a "majority." They have 32. 32 was needed for passage. In other words, without some Republicans, they needed every single vote. I have a hard time getting too upset about not being able to hold 100% of your caucus together on something like this. It's just not ever going to be a realistic expectation.

    Posted by: Glenn | Dec 3, 2009 10:42:25 AM

  14. Three of the four who threatened to defect to the GOP voted against it. In retrospect, the Democrats should have probably let those four go Republican and stayed in the minority. And then try to unseat them with more loyal candidates at the next election. Instead, they are now stuck with four Benedict Arnolds sitting in safe Democratic districts.

    I will hand it to the Republicans on organization though. They pretty much goosestep in in total unison. Out of 218 Republicans in the House and Senate, two Republicans and Arlen Specter voted for the stimulus package. Exactly one Republican defected for health care reform. And it isn't just New York, folks. It is actually very common to see each and every Republican legislator vote against ANY gay rights measure in state legislatures across the country. One should admire such efficiency.

    Posted by: John | Dec 3, 2009 11:26:17 AM

  15. I think you should post up a contact list of those who voted "yes" on it. Even though we didn't gain anything, I think it's important to thank the people that put forth an effort so that they will know it was appreciated. I mean, we get such little support in things like this that it would be nice to acknowledge the people who do support us.

    Posted by: Kevin | Dec 3, 2009 12:03:52 PM

  16. @Derek Washington

    Man, you're better than I am. Watch this.

    FACT: 9 of 11 black NY State Senators voted for marriage equality yesterday.

    Therefore, might it be that the black political community is for gay equality (including marriage)?

    Think back on Melody Barnes.

    It's the black preachers that are against it. The church crowd.

    Now primary the 8 out that voted against marriage equality (in reality, we could topple 3 or 4 of these homobigoted Dems).

    But with the possible exzception of Malcolm Smith, the black churchified community may attempt to primary out some of those black Dems that supported marriage equality. Our community had better be there having those Dems backs as well.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Dec 3, 2009 12:22:18 PM

  17. Chi-town Kev,

    All those Blacks dems who voted YES will be just fine....I'm from NYC believe me when I tell you. It's not like DC

    Posted by: NADA | Dec 3, 2009 4:43:49 PM

  18. @ NADA & Derek WA

    I merely pointed out that I could not understand how someone who must have experienced discrimination want to discriminate against someone else. I am not blaming or singling out the black community or any other group. Minorities are usually the ones that experience discrimination the most. I don't appreciate your assumptions.

    Posted by: rich west village | Dec 4, 2009 12:11:36 AM

  19. "Friend" Addabbo on Facebook and let him know what you think of his stance on the Marriage vote.

    Posted by: Frank | Dec 4, 2009 10:33:07 AM

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