Colorado

Catholic School Has Issue With Student's Lesbian Parents

School A pre-school student at Boulder, Colorado's Sacred Heart of Jesus Catholic School will not be able to re-enroll in the fall simply because the child's parents are lesbians. That fact that the student's parents are gay is in itself a violation of the Denver Archdiocese policy.

Says the Archdiocese: "Parents living in open discord with Catholic teaching in areas of faith and morals unfortunately choose by their actions to disqualify their children from enrollment."

Since it is a private school, this is not against the law. 

One encouraging bit of news is that, even though the school's staff were instructed to not speak to the media, some are so disappointed with the schools discriminatory decision, that they are ignoring the request. One teacher has said that she "couldn't believe a student will have to suffer because of his/her parent's sexual orientation."

Yeah, I can't either.

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  1. BSA vs. Dale. This is a non-issue. Private organizations have a right to associate with who they want and reversely not associate with who they choose. Does it always seem fair? No. But I'll be the first in line to stand behind the Church's right to do this, even though I disagree with the reasoning.

    Posted by: Donald | Mar 6, 2010 7:51:28 AM


  2. Tim has a point. The public schools where I grew up were awful. My parents were Catholic in the loosest sense of the word (Christmas and Easter, that's about it), but when the choice came down to public middle school with mediocre education or Catholic MS with a decent education, we took the Catholic school education up through my high school graduation.

    Maybe mom and mom live in a so-so school district and can't make the move to a different one and this was the best way out. Shame the administrators let it work out this way, but nice to see that, like with the military, the folks in the trenches think this is nonsense.

    Posted by: DR | Mar 6, 2010 8:33:16 AM


  3. ....divorce is also against Catholic teachings, so are children whose parents are divorced also denied enrollment. Another riduclous, hypocritical, Catholic response.

    Posted by: Mike | Mar 6, 2010 8:53:00 AM


  4. @Tank...I would change my posted name if I was being stalked. Your style is very unique and we will know you.

    @Contrarian...I love gossip, struggle with fashion, find porn urgently boring, and can't get the hang of hook-up sites. Ignorance or indifference in LGBT communities is not the problem. Powerlessness is, as the prop8 trial demonstrated. What to do about powerlessness is another question.

    Posted by: Breathturn | Mar 6, 2010 9:04:07 AM


  5. Bryan is right. The Catholic Church blackmails its members. They can't have the so-called sacraments unless they totally abide by all the screwed up teachings of these sexually repressed old men in dresses. What fools these women were to try to burden their child with the nonsense of this group of crazies. I know. I had 13 years of their indoctrination. They are nuts.

    Posted by: candideinnc | Mar 6, 2010 10:56:39 AM


  6. This is crazy!
    What about children of divorced parents? Children who were born out of wedlock? Children who have parents that use birthcontrol? Don't those children have parents who are living in open discord of Catholic beliefs??
    It saddens me that religion has always had less to do with God and more to do with power.

    Posted by: Sandra | Mar 6, 2010 11:20:30 AM


  7. I double-dare Towleroad to cut off the head of the pretender to my throne!

    That would be you.

    I am NOT you! I am me and only me can has the cheezburger of my reputation for assholery and eat it too.

    I can has too.

    QUIT IT OUT!

    You are not me you quit it.

    ANDYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 6, 2010 11:46:25 AM


  8. I grew up in secular home in a really shitty neighborhood. Although my parents did not support the bigoted doctrine of the Catholic church, they sent me to a Catholic school when I was kid *because it was the best education I could get in the area for what we could afford*.

    They researched the school beforehand, met with the priests to discuss how religion was addressed in the school and were clear that they did not want their child indoctrinated into Catholic dogma. So I (and many many other students) took civics classes in instead of theology, and worked on the yearbook instead of going to mass. And a couple of times I even went to mass because I was curious. My parents stayed in close contact with me about what went on at school and what I thought about religion.

    I even came out in high school and *still* had a great time. Even a number of the priests (Jesuits) were upfront with me about the church's official stance on homosexuality was completely anachronistic. They refused to teach it and a number of other items of doctrine they believed were invalid.

    Anyway, I had a great time at Catholic high school (still some of the best make-out sessions of my life) and I got a great education and went on to an Ivy League school on scholarship. It's really lame that this Catholic school in Colorado is choosing to defend the bigoted position of the church, but it would be an even bigger shame to write off all Catholic schools because of it. These lesbian mothers should have researched the school's stance on Catholic doctrine before sending their child in what sounds like a really shitty situation, but simply writing off all Catholic schools is throwing the baby out with the bath water. Sometimes they're the best option (especially in shitty, impoverished areas where there isn't money of private schools and TAG programs).

    I think some people here are confusing the doctrine of the Catholic church with some cookie-cutter ethos (which doesn't exist) applied to Catholic schools and the beliefs of all Catholics. Catholicism is a massive institution with a wide spectrum of beliefs (although one that I'm not part of). It's a living, breathing (and, really, dying) organism. But to say that all Catholic schools and Catholics are bigoted because Catholic doctrine hates on gays is like saying all schools in Texas and Texans are bigoted because Texas law hates on gays. It's reductive and simply not true. And, in its own way, bigoted.

    Posted by: jilco | Mar 6, 2010 12:28:05 PM


  9. It is just wrong to send your child to a school run by Roman Catholics. Their ideas on sex and sexuality are just all wrong. This does not just go for gays, but also for straights. The only saving thing is that most Catholics do not believe that nonsense anyway. But then the question is why people go to and support a church that preaches what they do not believe.

    I just do not understand that.

    Posted by: Joel | Mar 6, 2010 12:36:31 PM


  10. I think a nice example was given by the person who was talking about clubs (not cards, but those boring things...that people play tennis, etc. at). Let's say that you belonged to a country club that discriminated against blacks and jews, though didn't consider yourself a racist or an antisemite. Well, you pay the dues, and belong to the club, which supports racism and antisemitism by refusing to admit black and jewish members, and your token "disagreement" didn't translate into not supporting the club. Also, you come out and say that not all of the club members are antisemites and racists, but defend the club's beautiful golf courses....yeah. There's no reasoning with someone who enjoys golf more than legal equality, and would keep the company of bigots so that one could have access to a particular benefit for themselves. These people may be a lot of things, but ethical isn't one of them. It doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are; it only matters what the official beliefs are, because are the ones that are enforced.

    Country clubs and the roman catholic church aren't all that different.

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 6, 2010 1:08:02 PM


  11. it's been a long time since ruby was in kindergarten but i don't recall any moral or philosophical discussions in the curriculum. i remember things like using one of those fat pencils, a red chief note pad and naptime.
    fuck yea, naptime. can we bring that back? :P

    Posted by: ruby | Mar 6, 2010 1:17:27 PM


  12. I personally can't believe that a child is going to have to suffer because of some delusions that his parents have that Catholic school is acceptable in this country. As a gay man, the last place I would ever send my kid is to a school ran by an organization that has a documented history of discriminating openly and shuffling around pedophiles. I think this is one of those blessings in disguise type of things.

    Posted by: Aaron | Mar 6, 2010 1:24:45 PM


  13. I finally quit supporting, financially and emotionally, the Roman Catholic last year. In my view it had become a Political Party more than a Religion. It's forces an anti gay bias, as well as racial discrimination against President Obama receiving Honor at Notre Dame, not allowing Mayor Anthony Williams into their Knights Organization, and on and on.

    Posted by: Turtletattoo | Mar 6, 2010 2:37:34 PM


  14. When you're a guest in someone else's house you should abide by their rules whether you agree with them or not...otherwise....DON'T GO IN!

    Posted by: CARIBTONY | Mar 6, 2010 2:37:37 PM


  15. "I think a nice example was given by the person who was talking about clubs, not cards but those boring things...that people play tennis, etc. at)."

    Now that I've linguistically neutured myself to the point of being unrecognizable are you satisfied? Will you stop trying to be me now that I'm as boring as the things I'm vaporing on about? Because if you don't stop this charade I'm going to have to become even more vanilla, non-opinionated and non-confrontational until I MAKE MY FUCKING POINT!

    Posted by: TANK | Mar 6, 2010 2:49:44 PM


  16. Spewing hate in the name of religion, sad to say, happens way too much these days. Maybe it always has (i.e. the Crusades, Inquisition...) but in 2010? I have to give some credit and kudos to the teachers who ignored the request of the Archdiocese and made their feeling known. As a former Catholic school teacher, I find this hatred and discrimination outrageous. And they wonder why the church is losing people! Hmmm...

    Posted by: Gene | Mar 7, 2010 10:33:51 AM


  17. Only the Roman Catholic Church thinks that child molestation is great but lesbianism is bad.

    Posted by: libhomo | Mar 7, 2010 10:53:29 AM


  18. @Jay: TOUCHE!

    Posted by: jamal49 | Mar 7, 2010 1:55:22 PM



  19. Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business.

    Posted by: scott | Mar 8, 2010 12:02:39 PM


  20. Who is “the Church”? Is it the handful of self-appointed hierarchs, or the millions who fill the pews and pay the bills?

    In fact, two-thirds of Catholics-in-the-pews reject the Roman hierarchy’s homophobic views, according to every survey. About a third of Catholics in America and Europe support full marriage rights including sacramental marriage, while another third support civil unions.

    Scripture refers to the Church as the “Ecclesia” -- the “assembly” of the faithful, the full Body of Christ. The Ecclesia supports same-gender unions, and many local priests quietly perform blessings of same-gender commitments. This ‘sensus fidelium’ is the true teaching of the Church.

    The most beloved gay Catholic of our time, Fr. Mychal Judge, ‘the Saint of 9/11’, often asked, “Is there so much love in the world that we can afford to discriminate against any kind of love ?!” He also urged us, “Don’t let the institutional church get in the way of your relationship with God.”
    http://SaintMychalJudge.blogspot.com

    It is ironic that this school is named for the Sacred Heart of Jesus who said, “Let the children come to me,” and who most certainly would never punish little children to punish the parents.

    Posted by: Ecclesia | Mar 12, 2010 11:56:33 AM


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