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Newsweek Writer Ramin Setoodeh Accepts Set Invite from 'Glee' Creator Ryan Murphy; Alan Cumming Slams Setoodeh

Ryan Murphy, the creator of Glee who called for a boycott of Newsweek following Ramin Setoodeh's controversial article asserting that gay actors are unconvincing as heterosexuals, says that Setoodeh has accepted an offer from him to visit the set of Glee, watch the casting process, and discuss why Murphy found the article so reprehensible.

Writes Murphy in an open letter: Setoodeh  

"Ramin Setoodeh, the author of the article, reached out to me today and accepted my offer to sit with myself and the writers of Glee — Brad Falchuk and Ian Brennan — to discuss not only why we found the piece so offensive, but also to observe our creative process and see how we construct a TV show dedicated exclusively to the idea of inclusiveness and acceptance for all — ideas solely absent in his ‘Straight Jacket’ article... On Glee, straight actors play gay roles, gay actors play straight roles and no one is discriminated against. I hope observing this process firsthand — and talking with our cast — will be illuminating to Mr. Setoodeh, and inform his future journalistic endeavors."

Murphy also says he's awaiting a better response from Newsweek:

"I want to issue a personal thank you to GLAAD president Jarrett Barrios, writer/director Dustin Lance Black and countless others who have joined me in condemning Newsweek magazine and asking for an apology for their recent article ‘Straight Jacket,’ a hurtful bigoted diatribe in which they basically asserted that gay actors should not play straight roles because they are not “believable.” So far, Newsweek magazine has declined to issue an apology, other than to say they are big fans of the show I co-created, Glee — even the straight dudes around the Newsweek offices. I say thanks for your support, however glib, and continue — with many others offended by the article — to wait for a more substantial articulate response."

Read the full letter at EW.

In related news, actor Alan Cumming writes a long piece on the Setoodeh controversy.

Writes Cumming:  Cumming  

"Ramin Seetodeh is gay. He is a self-hating gay, and he is a danger to us all, not just gay people - as is apparent by the above, hideous quasi-apology for the classroom shooting of a boy - but everyone on this planet because Newsweek is allowing his dangerous and insidiously warped messages to be published and enter society to fuel the flames of shame, fear, anger and, in this case, homophobia. His words allow people to validate their bigoted and fearful views of gay people, especially because he is gay himself. Which brings me to the crux, and I promise, the swansong of my thesis...

It is my contention that Ramin Seetodeh is not happy with himself. He has particlaur shame about being gay. He sees gayness, paricularly open and unabashed gayness, or effeminacy, as a reminder of what he does not like about himself. And so he attacks it. His own shame translates into his paralysis when thinking of others who might have his own curse and yet be able to function fully and happily within the rest of the world: a child chasing his friends around a playground in high heels; an actor who he knows is publicly gay but feels he needs to re-out to make himself feel better about his own self-loathing and lack of acceptance of his most basic needs and happiness. As someone who is a only a decade or so immigrant to these shores, I have noticed that shame is one of America's biggest exports, imbibed more domestically than overseas, and Mr Seetodeh could easily manage its Gay division."

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  1. Proof that it doesn't matter if you're gay or straight, if you want to get anywhere in this business, the #1 rule is KEEP PEOPLE TALKING, NO MATTER HOW OVERSTAYED YOUR WELCOME.

    Posted by: Andy F | May 14, 2010 10:33:49 AM


  2. Ramin Setoodeh, Ramin Setoodeh...

    Oh yeah! He wrote that article basically saying it was Lawrence King's fault he got shot because he was gay and femme!

    http://www.newsweek.com/id/147790

    "Larry King was, admittedly, a problematical test case: he was a troubled child who flaunted his sexuality and wielded it like a weapon—it was often his first line of defense. But his story sheds light on the difficulty of defining the limits of tolerance."

    Posted by: Zack | May 14, 2010 10:35:22 AM


  3. Good for Alan Cummings! That's exactly what needs to be said about Setoodeh. Self-hating, ashamed of being gay, and a danger to us all.

    Posted by: NickC | May 14, 2010 10:42:06 AM


  4. Alan Cumming is a shrink now? Another case of a "celebrity" pretending their fame gives them knowledge. Very tired.

    Posted by: JusticeontheRocks | May 14, 2010 10:51:52 AM


  5. This is such a non-story. But, I guess it's nice to know that at least gays have achieved equality on the publicity whorism front!

    Posted by: Observer1000 | May 14, 2010 10:57:14 AM


  6. Um, you don't have to be a shrink to see the writing on the wall. Sedtoodeh is GAAAAYYY! Just watch the videos of him, my non-shrink like gaydometer was hitting 6 on the Kinsey scale. Even if he wasn't gay, which is unlikely, his homophobia blames victims of violence and projects generalizations about gay actors which in affect is more than a little bit revealing.

    Posted by: tooboot | May 14, 2010 11:00:35 AM



  7. so this Ramin Setoodeh is pretty much a massive douche

    and Kristin Chenoweth rocks for what she wrote regarding his article, as does Alan Cumming

    but in light of the "Glee" episodes since its hiatus, I would really rather see Ryan Murphy take on his script writing department than this issue

    Posted by: neverstops | May 14, 2010 11:07:40 AM


  8. People don't like the truth if the truth hurts. There is a difference between what SHOULD be and what IS.

    The truth is it is highly improbable for a young openly gay male to become a leading man heart throb in film. Most straight audiences will tag the actor as gay, thus not believable (and some gay audiences too as evidenced by Setoodeh's opinions about Glee and Sean Hayes).

    It's not right. It's not how it should be. It ought to be changed. But it IS.

    I live in the South. I'm not going to walk down a country road holding my partner's hand. It's NOT self hatred. It's self preservation.

    It's not right. It's not how it should be. It ought to be changed. But it IS.

    So, despite Ramin muddying the waters of his argument with his own catty comments towards the actors in question, it doesn't mean he is self-hating....maybe he's just a bad writer who doesn't know how to carefully choose his words when illustrating a point.

    Labeling him "self-hating" is an easy dismissal. It makes you feel better than facing the truth that the world is still against us in ways that are unfair.

    It's not right. It's not how it should be. It ought to be changed. But it IS.

    Posted by: Dallas | May 14, 2010 11:13:11 AM


  9. Dallas, have you read Setoodeh's other articles, where he blames Lawrence King's effeminacy for his murder? or where he contends that the effeminate Kurt on "Glee" is the reason that gay rights initiatives have gone down to defeat in recent election?

    Setoodeh may not be homophobic, but he clearly has a self-hating complex when it comes to effeminate gay men; it's an axe he's been grinding for some time now and what he doesn't realize is that he's causing more harm to the gay rights movement than progressive momentum.

    Yes, there is a story here about how Hollywood keeps actors in the closet or possibly blackballs those actors who are out; but that's not what he chose to write about--instead he virulently attacked Sean Hayes and Jonathan Groff for not being, in his perception only, manly enough. It was a pathetic display of effemiphobia, and poorly written into the bargain.

    Posted by: Joseph | May 14, 2010 11:23:25 AM


  10. Who the fuck reads Newsweek?

    Posted by: drake onian | May 14, 2010 11:23:39 AM


  11. I have a friend who used to know him. He says he actually is pretty self-hating. Has a big problem with femme guys.

    Posted by: Zack | May 14, 2010 11:24:01 AM


  12. Ramin Setoodeh and Truth have never met.

    Alan Cumming nails it. And the proof is how his words have so upset the KAPOS who post in here.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | May 14, 2010 11:25:40 AM


  13. And most damming of all, HE IS A TERRIBLE WRITER.

    Posted by: Fenrox | May 14, 2010 11:28:16 AM


  14. The problem is perception. In general this has nothing to do with the quality of the actor/actress performance itself but how it is perceived by the bigoted masses. It's a reflection of the discrimination suffered by the LGBT community and in several cases by the looks of it the discrimination suffered even within the community itself and by their own members. Does that mean that Hollywood gay actors should stay in the closet? or that news reporters should hide their sexual orientation claiming to protect their objectivity/credibility? No, quite the contrary the only way to possibly change that poisonous and mischievous "state of mind" is for people to be up front and for gay actors to work harder and be better the same way it happened for women and black people not so long ago.

    Posted by: vatm | May 14, 2010 11:28:56 AM


  15. @Dallas who said, "I live in the South. I'm not going to walk down a country road holding my partner's hand. It's NOT self hatred. It's self preservation."

    Actually, it's cowardice plain and simple. You can cloak it however you wish to but the truth of the matter is people like you and Setoodeh are cowards, period. Embrace the fact that you are the way you are, but get out of my fucking way.

    Posted by: Jubal Harshaw | May 14, 2010 11:36:37 AM


  16. http://www.newsweek.com/id/147790 - Young, Gay and Murdered. Yea.. the same way if a woman wears a short skirt is her fault she got raped. wait.. what the fuck?!

    Posted by: vatm | May 14, 2010 11:39:07 AM


  17. Awesome, Jubal.

    Posted by: Zack | May 14, 2010 11:41:26 AM


  18. Joseph,

    No, I haven't read his articles. And I'm not claiming he isn't self hating, just that it's an easy dismissal to throw around. The label then can be used to invalidate the more insightful discussions revolving around SHOULD and IS.

    I didn't know the new guy on Glee was openly gay. I didn't see a problem with his performance.

    I loved Alan as Nightcrawler. That character isn't gay. Same with Ian McKellen...they made that movie.

    Posted by: Dallas | May 14, 2010 11:48:36 AM


  19. There's a great piece in Vanity Fair cataloging his anger toward sissies. It paints a pretty damning picture.

    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/05/newsweeks-ramin-setoodeh-cant-stand-sissies.html

    Posted by: Zack | May 14, 2010 11:54:32 AM


  20. Ramin Setoodeh is actually an anagram for A Nerdiest Homo.

    Posted by: Gregoire | May 14, 2010 12:47:53 PM


  21. @ JusticeontheRocks: Don't be so jealous. A prominent gay guy expresses his well-worded opinion and you're against that? Please, get over yourself.

    Posted by: Drew | May 14, 2010 2:37:16 PM


  22. Ramin needs to use his noodle.
    People project their own prejudices onto the "audience" and what the "audience" will accept. It is what Hollywood producers used to say about Black actors in leading roles, or as a romantic interest opposite a white actor or actress: The audience will never accept that so we just CAN'T cast it that way. So the producer thinks he isn't a bigot--he's just looking out for "the audience". Guess what? When some forward thinking producers decided to take a risk and do some color-blind casting the audience was just fine. And people came to accept it to the point where black actors and actresses are some of the biggest box office draws today.
    Same thing here. It is happening more and more and will continue to get better. Out gays and lesbians will be accepted and loved in straight roles and this will be a non-issue as long as people like Mr. Setoodeh don't rule the world. He is a disgrace to the LGBT community. He is prejudiced, self-loathing and WRONG.

    Posted by: StillMarriedinCA | May 14, 2010 2:54:47 PM


  23. Cumming is right. This country is caught in one huge shame spiral and the vortex is pulling us all down.

    Posted by: Timzilla | May 14, 2010 2:56:34 PM


  24. it was a sloppy, flimsy article.

    BUT no one is saying anything about it that isn't completely knee-jerk and on the defense.

    I am not self hating, but yeah, I caught one episode of glee, and having actually been around Jon Groff (from afar) in new york... I don't really buy the storyline. And that's really all he was saying.

    And also... Sean Hayes JUST came out. He can BS reasons he waited for so long all he wants to, but the bottom line is... he stayed in because of people's perceptions of him and for CAREER reasons.

    Again, sloppy article. and the examples he cites are way off.

    Posted by: JoshEV | May 14, 2010 3:08:18 PM


  25. If I didn't know who Cummings was targeting with his words, I could easily have assumed he was talking about George Rekers.

    Posted by: Rodney | May 14, 2010 3:33:06 PM


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