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Watch: McCain Lies, Gets Testy with Journalists Over 'DADT' Facts


The Wonk Room reports on a meeting between Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham and a group of journalists immediately following the Senate filibuster of the Defense bill, which effectively stalled DADT repeal in the near term.

In a dialog with The Advocate's Kerry Eleveld and MetroWeekly's Chris Geidner, McCain insists, in what can only be described as a hissy fit, that the military does not "seek out" sexual orientation, despite evidence to the contrary.

The Wonk Room's Igor Volsky notes:

"In fact, as Almy explained in testimoney before McCain’s own committee (Senate Armed Services): 'In Iraq, during the height of the insurgency, someone in the Air Force ordered a search of my private emails solely to determine if I had violated 'Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell', and to gather whatever evidence could be used against me.' 'I was relieved of my duties, leading nearly 200 Airmen, my security clearance was suspended and part of my pay was terminated. Even as my commander was relieving me of my duties, he assured me this was in no way a reflection of my performance or my abilities as an officer,' Almy testified."

Video and transcript, AFTER THE JUMP...

Note: you may need to turn up the volume. Transcript via Think Progress:

MCCAIN: We do not go out and seek. Regulations are, we do not go out and seek to find out if someone’s sexual orientation. We do not!

ELEVELD: But senator, that’s not…

MCCAIN: That is the fact! That is the fact. Now ma’am, I know the military very well, and I know what’s being done. And what is being done is that they are not seeking out people who are gay. And I don’t care what you say, I know it’s a fact.

ELEVELD: It’s not what I say.

MCCAIN: I dont’ care what you say! And I don’t care what others say. I’ve seen it in action. I’ve seen it in action. I have sons in the military, I know the military very well. So they’re not telling you the truth.

ELEVELD: Senator, just to make sure…

MCCAIN: Just to make sure. We do not go out and seek out and find out….

ELEVELD: Private emails are not being searched? Private emails are not being searched?

MCCAIN: …See if someone is gay or not. We do not go out and see whether someone is gay or not.

ELEVELD: There are documented cases…

MCCAIN: They do not, they do not, they do not. You can say that they are, you can say [inaudible] it’s not true!… Yea, I’d like to see…

GEIDNER: It is the case of Mike Almy, Senators.

MCCAIN: Bring them to our office. It is not the policy, it is not the policy, it is not the policy.

GEIDNER: But it is the case that it’s happening, Senator.

MCCAIN: It is not the policy, it is not the policy, it is not the policy You can say that it is the policy, sir if you choose to. It is not the policy. I would be glad to get that to you in writing.

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  1. That's awesome, bob r! Good stuff. Never let this corrupt shitbag forget his prestigious keating five membership.

    Posted by: TANK | Sep 21, 2010 10:49:00 PM

  2. It still freaks me out that 46% of americans voted for this man to be the 44th president of the United States.

    Posted by: excy | Sep 21, 2010 10:55:17 PM

  3. can u imagine if he was elected presi?


    Posted by: suede | Sep 21, 2010 10:59:27 PM

  4. Anytime someone says something three times... I automatically assume they're a liar.

    Once, fine. Twice, for emphasis... maybe okay. Thrice? They're trying to convince themselves what they're saying is true, as well as anyone else... and it rings false.

    Posted by: jexer | Sep 21, 2010 11:44:11 PM

  5. John McCain showed today that he is a portrait of cowardice. He failed to protect the rights of all Americans and uphold the Constitution.

    And Harry Reid brought up this vote at a very inopportune time, before the December report from the Pentagon on how to integrate gays into the military.

    I am not happy with the political grandstanding by either party!

    Posted by: JoeInSF | Sep 21, 2010 11:53:27 PM

  6. It really says something when a "maverick/moderate" in America is basically facist or ultra right wing in Europe. If he were in Britain, he'd right up there with the BNP. In France, it would be with the National Front.


    ...and yes, 46% of Americans voting for him says a lot about our country, sadly.

    Posted by: Brian B. | Sep 22, 2010 12:02:30 AM

  7. How many times does he have to say it?





    Posted by: Rebel | Sep 22, 2010 12:11:59 AM

  8. I really wish we could track the history of comments made by certain people because I am instantly interested in anything Bob R has to say about everything.

    Posted by: Christopher | Sep 22, 2010 12:17:10 AM

  9. Moron. Just because it's not the policy doesn't mean it's not happening.

    McCain has flip-flopped so many times, I'm not sure he even remembers what it's like to have an opinion.

    I guess he really believes that it's okay to discharge our servicemembers, even after all the money spent training them in special skills, and even when losing those skills harms our military.

    America: The Land of The Free and The Home of the Brave. Unless, of course, you fancy someone of your gender.

    Posted by: Jay | Sep 22, 2010 12:18:18 AM

  10. BTW, does anyone else believe that we should have a maximum age for congressmen. Maybe they should be forced to retire at 65, like the rest of us working folk.

    Either that, or it's time to initiate term limits.

    Whatever the case, we need to do something to reduce the number of stodgy old fools blocking up our legislative process.

    Posted by: Jay | Sep 22, 2010 12:23:16 AM

  11. Seriously, if they don't want us serving the country, all gay and bi soldiers should quit already! America doesn't even give us full rights anyway for jobs, taxes, families, healthcare, and having normal lives free of violence. Is the message that they just want as all to leave to Canada and Europe?! Why are we expected to serve our country when it downgrades us in every aspect of our lives for the sake of old ignorant people's fears and misconceptions about us?!

    Posted by: X | Sep 22, 2010 12:26:58 AM

  12. Bob R: Just WOW! Thank you.

    Posted by: HawaiiBill | Sep 22, 2010 2:30:23 AM

  13. re: JoeInSF

    When is a good time for you to bring up a funding bill?? All the primaries are over and both houses of Congress are back in session. After the election its considered a lame duck session.

    I don't really understand why DADT wasn't passed as a single bill...

    I'm not sure about a maximum age requirement for Congress members but I do believe they need to be drug tested...(and in Rep. Boehner's case he needs to be tested for alcohol each time he walks on the House floor.)

    Posted by: Shawn | Sep 22, 2010 2:37:29 AM

  14. I too, am very impressed by what Bob wrote here...I wanted to post it on Facebook for all of my religious Republican relatives to see, but it is much too long. Posting it in sections won't work, as it would be in reverse order, as I have tried that before when I have something of length to say...stupid FB!
    Bob.....please post it EVERYwhere that you can!!!


    Posted by: Bruce Wayne | Sep 22, 2010 2:38:55 AM

  15. Why don't you go ahead and get that to us in writing, you disgusting, lying piece of trash. Apparently he thinks talking over people's voices and repeating the same words over and over again makes him win the argument, when all he is doing is deflecting so he doesn't have to admit how jaded he is

    Posted by: Yours Truly | Sep 22, 2010 6:39:37 AM

  16. Notice how he keeps repeating himself. What is this the brainwashing tactic. DADT then let this stand for all of the servicemen who bragged about the women, talked about there relationships with women, porno pictures of women.... dismiss them from service for displaying there sexual orientation. Has this ever happened. ---- He is a dumb ass communist.

    Posted by: TeeJay | Sep 22, 2010 8:19:34 AM

  17. While I don't believe in term limits I think age limits, or at least dementia testing, should be in implemented. McCann has said so many contradictory during this political career that even he can't remember what he's said. This man should have called it quits at least two terms ago but unfortunately will be returning once again to the Senate in January, newly reelected and ready to do another six years worth of damage. His wife is worth over one hundred million dollars (yep - $100,000,000) and they own more houses then he can remember so you'd think that at over 70 years of age he'd be ready to retire. But I guess if he did that he'd have no one to annoy but his family so I'll bet they're all voting to send him back to DC.

    Posted by: ThomT | Sep 22, 2010 9:21:27 AM

  18. McButtCrack has been an embarrassment for us down here in AZ for a very long time. Thank gawd for videos like this prove that he's just another old, senile a$$hole that would rather just repeat his silly logic over and over again, hoping that one can forget about the truth. DADT allows gay profiling, its wrong and unamerican and it should be repealed. I would only add that Senator McCain should be repealed as well!

    Posted by: Garrett | Sep 22, 2010 10:20:21 AM

  19. PLEASE let some do a remix of this so it can be played over and OVER....and OVER.

    The Rachel Maddow clip of this includes an interview with Maj Mike Almay immediately after this and it's quite powerful.

    AND again.... respect for your post.

    Posted by: mcNnyc | Sep 22, 2010 10:36:41 AM


    Posted by: Jake | Sep 22, 2010 12:17:54 PM

  21. Bob R: You hit the nail on the head! Thank you for posting! It's not bad enough McCain lies with a straight face and throws a fit; Graham sits there tacitly agreeing with every thing McCain says like a good little gay puppy. Shouldn't lawmakers who lie be forced out of office, the way McCain and Gingrich wanted Clinton removed? John McCain, thank you for destroying for my faith in American government. Oh, and...Sarah Palin, let's not forget that ray of sunshine you foisted on us.

    Posted by: mad1026 | Sep 22, 2010 1:37:49 PM

  22. When are people going to get it through their heads the stupid son-of-a-bitch is slipping into Alzheimer's? Once he's re-elected, he's probably going to retired for "health reasons" so his seat can be handed over to a Republican of that crazy-assed bitch governor's choice. He's a disgrace to his uniform and this country, but since when did that stop anyone in politics or the military from behaving like scum?

    Posted by: Kyle Sullivan | Sep 22, 2010 7:11:51 PM

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