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Students Who Used Webcam to Broadcast Tyler Clementi's Encounter with Man Withdraw from Rutgers University

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The two Rutgers students responsible for filming 18-year-old Tyler Clementi's intimate encounter with another man and streaming it online via webcam, have withdrawn from the university. Clementi, as you may recall, committed suicide by jumping off the George Washington bridge in late September.

The Courier Post reports: Ravi_wei

"Steven Altman of New Brunswick, the attorney for Dharun Ravi, Clementi's roommate, said the withdrawals of Ravi of Plainsboro and his co-defendant Molly Wei of Princeton, both 18, mean neither face university disciplinary hearings. 'They were given the option of withdrawing and they can reapply,' Altman said. 'Realistically, they couldn't go back no matter what. He definitely plans to go somewhere else.' Altman said both students withdrew earlier this month, but he did not have an exact date. He was unable to comment on what Ravi has been doing since removing himself from school. Withdrawal was raised as a possibility by university officials during phone conversations in early October, Altman said. In the wake of Clementi's suicide, people within and outside the university called for Ravi and Wei's immediate expulsion. Neither student was suspended, Altman said."

A group called 'Queering the Air' held a protest on Wednesday night, criticizing the condemnation of Ravi and Wei, saying, "We are against the crucifixion of two individuals for the sins of the larger society."

The Courier Post adds:

"In a press release, the group condemned Garden State Equality, an advocacy group that demanded Ravi and Wei be charged with hate crimes and receive 'the maximum possible sentence.' Goldstein, the director of Garden State Equality, the largest advocacy organization in the state for gays and lesbians, called Queering the Air a 'radical fringe group.' ... 'They stand with (Ravi and Wei). We stand with Tyler Clementi,' said Goldstein. While the students chanted on one side of College Avenue, three self-described "street preachers'' preached loudly to students waiting at the bus stop in front of the gymnasium. 'You say you were born homosexuals, you need to be born again,' said Robert Parker of Old Bridge. "Education without salvation is damnation.'' Parker later went across the street and preached similar messages while members of Queering the Air continued to chant."

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  1. queering the air? Which reminds me, the star of any orgy is, of course, the air freshener. Larger society's sins, huh? Sounds like moonbattery to me...no one is responsible because is...yeah. Well, maybe it's just a rightwing student group using similar reasoning to advance their agenda.

    Posted by: TANK | Oct 29, 2010 1:28:07 PM


  2. @ROSCOE & CHIP:

    Please... Clementi's shame at being a fag led him to kill himself, not his fellow students, not a nebulous "society."

    This all raises a critical question: Whatever happened to GAY PRIDE?! I thought you all were supposed to be all proud and in-your-face about your disgusting and abominable lifestyle. Apparently, your "movement" failed Mr. Clementi by not instilling within him an amount of "pride" in his perversion that would have been sufficient to overcome the NATURAL revulsion and shame he felt when faced with video documentation of his own sickness.

    Posted by: Doc d20 | Oct 29, 2010 2:20:29 PM


  3. @doc

    Dharun is that you? Shouldn't u be applying at devry?

    Posted by: Ken | Oct 29, 2010 3:30:43 PM


  4. this should follow these two forever. they should never be allowed to forget their actions led to a person's death. the university handling of this was a total screw up. why weren't they expelled?

    Posted by: walter | Oct 29, 2010 5:36:40 PM


  5. I wish one of these two would grant an interview to a responsible news outlet (A Cooper, perhaps)? Part of me just needs to hear the degree of remorse they have. Wishful thinking, I know, but I almost have a need to hear that they did not have malice driving them or, if they did, what a heavy burden their guilt is now.

    Posted by: joe | Oct 29, 2010 8:00:48 PM


  6. while nothing can return Tyler to this living world, I'm hoping his family files a civil suit against Rutgers, and the students who opted out of accountability. And the Univ of Phoenix will gladly take anyone's money or help create student loans for anyone not really needing a credible degree.

    Posted by: PAV3 | Oct 30, 2010 12:01:04 AM


  7. Is it really too much to ask for at least our side to be reasonable?

    Yes, we have very good reason to be angry, but we should not let our anger cloud our ability to think rationally and be reasonable. (And no I do not suggest or at all think it was a prank, however I also doubt they intended to effectively murder Tyler either)

    Instead of ASSUMING their intention to one extreme or the other, we should let the court INVESTIGATE the evidence, circumstances, etc and QUESTION these two.

    Posted by: ravewulf | Oct 30, 2010 12:43:26 AM


  8. so who was the other guy in the video?

    Posted by: m | Oct 30, 2010 7:12:38 AM


  9. @ravewulf

    I agree. I don't think tho most on our side are saying they caused his death intenionally. I see a lot of confusion over what these two are being charged for.

    The case against them has nothing to do with why Tyler killed himself. It was a suicide. The case is about why they allegedly set up the webcam on him, that is all. The law states that violates his privacy. They are not being charged for his death.

    I hope the prosecutors office is able to see that this wasn't just a prank or just invasion of privacy but how Tyler was picked to be the victim because of his sexuality which makes it a hate crime. But the law is funny sometimes.

    Posted by: danb | Oct 30, 2010 7:18:22 PM


  10. Obviously it was impossible for them to stay at Rutgers after T. Clementi's suicide. This is not a surprise or unexpected.

    These two will be haunted by this for the rest of their lives. And as for future education and serious employment opportunities, standard background checks will make them marked men and women.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Oct 30, 2010 7:44:52 PM


  11. i still feel so bad for the kid and his family. this was not simply a prank. it was a betrayal in all sorts of human decency. they set him up for public humiliation. it wasn't he that did anything wrong, it was they. they could have just as well beat him up and slit his throat -- perhaps that might have been kinder. but, no. they walked him to the precipice and plunged him to his death. i find it hard to be kind to two people who were so unkind to someone else.

    Posted by: nic | Oct 31, 2010 6:37:41 AM


  12. The perpetrators' names are and now and forever on the Internet. They'll probably get into another school, but good luck applying for a job after their names come up on a prospective employer's google search. I'd never hire either one.

    Posted by: wimsy | Oct 31, 2010 11:00:16 AM


  13. You can't fight hate with hate. You have to be bigger. You have to be better.

    Posted by: Alan | Nov 1, 2010 6:30:14 PM


  14. Rutgers President McCormick never even mentioned the name "Tyler Clementi" in his PR release to the media (this despite employing more than 75 PR, public affairs, communications, and alumni relations personnel). By contrast, at Notre Dame, the President and student body together honored the student who died filming the football team. Rutgers President McCormick not only FAILED to expell Ravi & Wei, who pushed Clementi to the edge (not over), he allowed them to withdraw with no blemish to their academic  records AND, astonishingly,  the ability to apply for re-admission. This despite his five "ambitions" for RU, one of which is an enhanced campus atmosphere for undergrads. Rutgers President McCormick shows more sympathy for the accused than for the dead. Shame on him.

    Posted by: BHMsteve | Nov 3, 2010 12:48:57 AM


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