1. Brad says

    Pretty, pretty words as usual. You don’t offer words of support on LGBT issues and then work against them. His appealing of the DADT and DOMA cases is tantamount to President Linclon saying he would “work with congress” to abolish slavery, then do nothing to actually abolish it and then buy a slave or two of his own. Obama is a liar and a homophobe. He either thinks DADT and DOMA are discriminatory or he doesn’t. His actions speak much, much louder than his words.

  2. Guest says

    Notice he does not use the words “gay” or “lesbian” once in his statement. He makes it about “anybody who wants to serve.”

    It’s about “policies” and “rules.” Never mentions actual servicepeople.

  3. SteveC says

    Blah, blah, blah.

    I want timelines Obama.

    WHEN will DADT be over?

    WHY are you defending DADT (your excuses for defending it are pathetic).

    WHY if you proclaim to support equality, do you still support marriage apartheid for gay people.

    Why has NOTHING been achieved in advancing LGBT rights been achieved in the past 2 years of your presidency?

    I demand action, not words.

    Are you just a slimy opportunist?

  4. SteveC says

    Nothing has been achieved yet,

    Do NOT give donations to Obama or the Democrats until concrete action has been taken on DADT, DOMA, ENDA and marriage equality.

    Actions speak louder than empty rhetoric.

    As for Obama’s point about us all being ‘god’s children’? Bullshit. I am my parents’ child. I am NOT the child of some evil sky fairy.

  5. says

    Just yesterday, my husband received the “2010 Presidential Survey” from the DNC. In the section about “issues” they listed 14 (e.g., America’s Economic Situation; Regulation of Financial Institutions and Markets, Handing over responsibility to the Iraqi people, Dealing with North Korea, etc.). Funny, they didn’t mention DADT, DOMA, ENDA, or bullying.

    I called the DNC’s Marketing Dept. which puts out the survey. They are personally sympathetic to our causes, but the reality is, THEY HAVEN’T BEEN HEARING COMPLAINTS FROM US.

    Please, please, enough griping on Towleroad (i.e., preaching to the converted); call the DNC tomorrow: 202.863.8000 and ask to speak to the Marketing Dept. Let them know you expect to be at the table and let them know, respectfully, the we won’t be taken for granted.

    Call the White House as well: 202.456.1111 or submit a comment online:

    Stop bitching, start calling. We won’t get what we don’t ask for, again, and again, and again.

  6. Tim says

    Too bad no one ever asks Obama the DADT question using the correct terminology. They should ask him “why don’t you use your legal authority to suspend DADT by issuing an executive stop loss order?”

    Then he couldn’t weasel out with the answer by claiming he can’t END THE POLICY with the stroke of a pen, which is true. But, it is also true that he can SUSPEND the policy with the stroke of a pen.

  7. BobN says

    Frankly, I’d rather he mention “GOP” than “gay” when he answers DADT-related questions.

    Using both words without hesitation would, of course, be ideal.

  8. David in Houston says

    “…I think people are born with a certain makeup, and we’re all children of God. We don’t make determinations about who we love. And that’s why I think that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is wrong.”

    “…except for that whole ‘getting married thing’ that would treat gay citizens as equals. In that case, I think discrimination is just fine.”

    Apparently, God wants some of his children to be discriminated against.

  9. Michael @ says

    @ Tim: your point is well-taken; even many professionals in media fail to phrase their questions specifically enough, BUT Anderson Cooper did, broadcast on July 13th of LAST YEAR [video link at bottom].

    “COOPER: One more question, before we go to Africa. Don’t ask, don’t tell, it requires an act of Congress to overturn it. You have said you want it overturned.

    OBAMA: Yes.

    COOPER: But your critics, and even some of your supporters, say, look, you could stop ENFORCEMENT right now of don’t ask, don’t tell. You could defer enforcement until you prod Congress to act. Why not? Why not act?

    OBAMA: Look, I have had conversations with Bob Gates, as well as Admiral Mullen, about the fact that I want to see this law changed. I also want to make sure that we are not simply ignoring a congressional law. If Congress passes a law that is constitutionally valid, then it’s not appropriate for the executive branch simply to say, we will not enforce a law. It is our duty to enforce laws.”

    Unfortunately, Cooper then retreated, and didn’t say, “You didn’t answer the question!” Or point out these two facts:

    1. It has NEVER been declared “Constitutional” by the Supremes, thus proving that Obama’s claims to being a “constitutional scholar” are bogus.

    2. He damn well knew by then that ANOTHER federal law, “10 United States Code § 12305”—“Authority of the President to Suspend Certain Laws Relating to Promotion, Retirement, and Separation”—gives him UNEQUIVOCAL, UNILATERAL power to ignore DADT and suspend any or all gay discharges in the name of national security.

    ACCEPT IT: the man is a fraud wno, for whatever reason, has bowed to the bigots in the Pentagon to either continue discharges or segregate gays in the military in some yet-to-be-announced plan.

  10. SteveC says

    Barack Obama’s administration has just requested a stay on the judicial overturn of DADT.

    F*** you Obama.

    You lying, homophobic hypocrite.

    Do NOT donate money to the homophobic Democrat Party.

    I’m voting Green from now on.

    The ‘lesser of 2 evils’ no longer works for me.

  11. Paul R says

    Jeez, some of you make it sound he’s the third incarnation of the Bush dynasty. Do you have no idea how politics works, especially when the military is involved and something like half of Congress is made up of straight veterans?

    Am I frustrated with the lack of progress? Yes. But is DADT my top priority for our rights? No way. ENDA would be way easier to achieve, much faster, and benefit far more people. Progress on that front would help pave the way for repealing DOMA and DADT. The GOP can scare a lot more people with “national security” issues than with equal rights for employment or even marriage equality. DADT should not have been the top priority for gay rights. There are horrific stories about the unconscionable discharges, no doubt. But joining the military is a choice. And having a president say the “right words” is a lot more important than having him say the wrong ones. We wouldn’t even be having this conversation under a GOP president.

    If he issues a stop-loss order, much of the military would revolt against the commander in chief—hardly something you want during war. Military issues require that certain protocol be followed, no matter how noxious the policy. Do you actually know people in the military? I do—lots.

    So go ahead, pile on and call me a GOP lover or self-loathing bastard or whatever. I’m just being realistic.

  12. Tim says

    The real problem is that Obama wants DADT repeal to be done the way the military wants it done. They want to slow-walk it. Gates has already said he will need discharges to continue for up to a year after the repeal. Gates wants the december report to “inform” congress because he wants to use the report to justify repeal with continued segregation in the military. Gates continue to talk about changes that will be required to Defense Dept Building which is code for separate barracks. Today they leaked part of the survey results saying that some areas of the military have many concerns over repeal while other areas don’t. They will use that to segregate gays into limited job opportunities. Gays will be allowed to work in the areas where they aren’t considered to make the straights “nervous” and on and on…..

  13. FunMe says

    America’s first BLACK President defends DISCRIMINATION!

    I will never again give my time, my money$$$ or my VOTE to this LYING POS!

  14. SteveC says

    “Jeez, some of you make it sound he’s the third incarnation of the Bush dynasty.”

    Well he is.

    There has been ZERO advancement on LGBT rights during the almost 2 years of his presidency. Even though they had a majority in both houses.

    That spells FAIL to me.

  15. Joe says


    I agree with your points that Obama has bowed to Bigots (or must be trying to appease them to get votes) with his inaction.

    But, he did answer AC’s question. He basically said that as he interprets the constitution and sees Executive power, that it is not his place to override decisions of congress unilaterally. He is basically espousing a view of the Constitution that rejects the Bush (and really Woo) view of executive power being unlimited.

  16. patrick nyc says

    The first slap was with that Bigot Warren at the swearing in, he’s gone down hill on gay rights since. He’ll have a lot to make up if he wants the gay vote next time around. I will not vote GOP this year, next time I may just vote Green.

  17. Max says

    This is the same Obama who today decided to appeal the judge’s ruling against DADT. What a sorry, shallow fraud.

  18. W says

    @Paul R: Thank you for making a comment based in reality.

    @Wondermann: Thank you for ackowledging Paul R’s comment.

    People of Towleroad: Making threats against allies is only hurting your cause. Taking action from where you stand will help. Make phone calls, talk to your senators. DO THE WORK! That’s what people of color and their allies did not so long ago. And the policies implemented as a result are far more lasting. If we take the time to undo the injustice, and build a strong, sturdy foundation for lgbt rights, it will be far more worthwhile. This is what Obama is trying to communicate: put in the effort and it will pay off. Being brash gets you somewhere temporarily; being bold, patient, driven, and focused towards a goal will bring a lifetime of results. In other words, we want this bullsh*t over for good. Obama recognizes the importance of this. He is our ally not our enemy. Don’t be fooled by those who actively attempt to destroy your cause by relabeling your friends (History has proven this as a tactic, a means, to disrupt any minority uprising). As David R suggests, “Stop Griping” and speak your mind to the people that have the power to change the laws i.e. your Senators and congresspeople. I repeat, Don’t Be Fooled, Know your Allies and Enemies, Do the Work. Be Responsible for the things you care about!

  19. Paul R says

    @SteveC: If you’ve seen ZERO change in policies and attitudes toward LGBT rights since Obama entered office, then I’m sorry you can’t read the news. Yes it’s been piecemeal and disappointing, but it sure as hell has been a lot more than we ever got under Shrub.

    It’s a fucked up country, with huge pockets of conservatism. Democrats suck at ruling and coherence. The GOP is evil. Obama doesn’t want to be the dictator that Cheney carved out for Bush II, nor can he be. Face reality.

  20. justiceontherocks says

    To PaulR and other Kool Aid drinkers: If you really believe the jabberwocky the bigot in chief is spinning, if you really think this guy cares about anything other than our votes and money, then you BADLY need a reality check.

  21. John Patrick says

    Obama’s words are meaningless. He has been saying nice words for years but he is doing nothing to end DADT, DOMA and is doing nothing to enact ENDA. In fact he has been DEFENDING DADT and DOMA in the courts. If he really wants DADT to end, he would have obeyed the court and ordered the military to obey the court and end enforcement if this law. But he is once again supporting the law in courts. Actions speak louder than words, Mister President, and your actions indicate you are an enemy of the GLBT community as much as Pat Robertson and NOM. The only difference is that your words are sweeter. But your actions prove you are a liar and a coward and a bigot. To think the first African American president does not care for justice is a travesty.

  22. Rob G. says

    Lots of freeper operatives stirring up shit as usual.

    Along with the standard clutch of perennial malcontents and keyboard guerillas.

    The former delight in fomenting discontent which could push the Democrats out of office and the latter wouldn’t be happy if President Obama married them personally (“I hated that tie…and besides, I’ll never forgive him for Rick Warren.”)

    Get over yourselves.

    The guy is a politician. He’s human. He’s flawed.

    You support and work with your allies even when they disappoint you. Life is unfair.

    But this all-or-nothing bullshit perpetuated by two ends of the political spectrum is a colossal waste of time and energy.

  23. Martin says

    Obama the best failure ever elected to office.

    It is in “their makeup”. Cannot even say it as people are born gay.

    Sick of this lame ass monkey.

  24. Max says

    Rob G., Of course anyone who expresses the slightest hint of dissatisfaction with President Messiah is a freeper, malcontent, or guerilla. Because when you can’t defend him, the only other option is to attack those who criticize him. I bet we’re all racists too, right?

    Obama is not an ally.

  25. Paul R says

    Oh, and by the way, this is from today’s Washington Post:

    “The Pentagon announced Thursday that it will comply with a court order to stop enforcing its “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy barring gays from serving openly in the military.”

  26. VAVA says

    This website is seriously made up of the bitches people known in the gay community. Good lord, nothing pleases you.

  27. BMF says

    A few things. One, several posters have mentioned that fact that Barack Obama is African American as if his race should make him more understanding. Like white gays are automatically sensitive to race because of sexual orientation? Please. I’m sure you’ll find LOTS of gay people of color to sign onto that notion. I don’t expect anyone to be more sensitive because of some innate or socially constructed characteristic. If you disagree with his position, I’d just leave it at that. If you want to put his race in it, that’s fine, but don’t be surprised when someone throws your race into the hopper to explain your antipathy to him.

    Two, Joe wrote “as he [Obama] interprets the constitution and sees Executive power . . . it is not his place to override decisions of congress unilaterally. He is basically espousing a view of the Constitution that rejects the Bush (and really Woo) view of executive power being unlimited.” Joe, I think this is something really important. After the Bush years where you a had an executive that ran amuck with terrible consequences, I think this something about which every American should be concerned.

    Third, and along the same lines, what happens when Congress passes a gay friendly law (and this will happen eventually) and the law is challenged when an anti-gay administration is in power? Would we want that administration to have the option to decline to defend the law? Is it possible that he’s got a concern for a larger principle where things don’t necessarily change when administrations change. Do I want a Republican administration to decline to defend a provision of the new health care bill or the hate crimes act because they don’t like it? No. And if DOJ can decide when it will not defend a law, how’s that decision made? What’s the basis for that decision other than the “preference” (or whim) of the president. My concern in situations is making sure my rights are protected when I’m not in power. If I authorize or endorse a policy where laws are defended based upon which ones the president likes, I’m signing on for a world of hurt when a president I oppose is in power.

  28. SKOC211 says

    While I am more than frustrated with the President on how he has been handling the repeal of DADT on tonight’s episode Rachel Maddow had on Walter Dellinger, former Solicitor General under the Clinton administration, to help clarify what’s going on with the President and repeal. What I took from it was that it is not as simple as the DOJ simply refusing to defend the statute in court and that the advances the administration has made are much more significant than they are being credited for. Give the segment a watch if you get a chance.

    One other point is that, again, while I would like Obama to have done more and really been that fierce advocate that he claimed he was, it is false to claim that under his administration there has been zero advances for LGBT rights. The first that comes to my mind is that two weeks from now will mark the one year anniversary of President Obama signing the Matthew Shepard Act into law.

    Is it enough? No. Did I expect more? Yes. Is it as black and white and simple as everyone is making it out to be? No. But it sure as hell is still better than the alternative we were faced with in 2008 and are faced with in 2010.

  29. Bryan says

    “We don’t make determinations about who we love. And that’s why I think that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation is wrong.”

    People seldom question the ethics of this argument, which assumes that if I had chosen to be gay it would be acceptable to discriminate against me. In fact, homophobia is a religious prejudice that seeks genocide.

    In reality, the entire issue boils down to whether or not Americans have the right to violate the Constitution when their religions demand it. Christianists believe that “there is no higher law than [my] God’s law,” a tenet which is both imperialist and undeniably antidemocratic.

  30. RED DEVIL says


    Keep your fucking money in your pocket. Who gives a fuck. The Dems don’t but we repubs do. Just for your vote once we’re in D.A.D.T will see the light of Day.

    So don’t be patient just don’t for Obama anymore. He doesn’t care! HA HA HA HA!

  31. FunMe says

    VOTE for the republiCONs? yeah right! NEVER!

    All those clowns need to be booted out of our government!

  32. FunMe says

    VOTE for the republiCONs? yeah right! NEVER!

    All those clowns need to be booted out of our government!

  33. Michael @ says

    @ JOE: you chose to ignore my second point that neutralizes the Obama Mafia talking point about not wanting to do a Bush and “override decisions of Congress unilaterally.”

    Passed BY Congress in 1983, “10 United States Code § 12305”—“Authority of the President to Suspend Certain Laws Relating to Promotion, Retirement, and Separation” GIVES HIM THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT in the name of national security. It reads:

    “Notwithstanding ANY other provision of law, during any period members
    of a reserve component are serving on active duty pursuant to an order to active duty under authority of section 12301, 12302, or 12304 of this title, THE PRESIDENT MAY SUSPEND ANY PROVISION OF LAW relating to promotion, retirement, OR SEPARATION applicable to ANY member of the armed forces who the President determines is essential to the national security of the United States.”

    If Congress had wanted to exclude gays, they could have, but note they wrote “ANY member of the armed forces.” Nor does it matter that the ban was not yet, then, an actual law. “Notwithstanding ANY other provision of law”….NOT “except for any that might be passed in the future.”

    The Supreme Court has already ruled 12305 constitutional.

    Over the last year, no less than Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and Senate Armed Services Committee Chair Carl Levin have asked him to do suspend discharges pending “repeal,” along with 77 members of the House who asked him by letter to stop discharges more than a year ago. Need one point out that, in addition to the personal reputations associated with their positions of leadership, all members of the House and Senate swear to uphold and defend the Constitution and would hardly urge him to take such an action if they didn’t feel it legal?

    The President himself said in June of 2009 that such discharges “weaken national security.” So he is not just contradicting HIMSELF, he is CHOOSING to “weaken national security” by continuing, even fighting to be able to continue, these discharges.

    Further, a supermajority vote is required for Congress to overrride any Executive Order, and they’d never get it in this regard.

    Further, WHY did he back Gates in his demand that there be NO mandate against discharges in the “compromise amendment,” thus, “repeal” no longer means a guaranteed end to discharges, only the law, with NOTHING preventing the military from returning to their internal pre-DADT ban that discharged over 100,000?

    “The Huffington Post,” June 3, 2010:


  34. MrRoboto says

    Interesting that no one has commented on two things here.

    1. Note that he credits Mullen as saying he thinks the policy should end, but he only credits Gates as recognizing “that the policy NEEDS TO CHANGE.”

    2. What follows is a bit of back and forth between policy ENDING and policy CHANGE.

    I know he insists that the policy’s going to end on his watch, but I just don’t see how that’s truly going to happen after November 2nd. And, the simple fact is, as health care reform proved, he’s willing to simply give up on a promise because it might have required him to actually take a stand and fight for it. So instead of health CARE reform, we got watered-down health INSURANCE reform. So, call me jaded, but when he promises an end on his watch of DADT, and carefully sprinkles in the word “change” a lot too, don’t be surprised if he end up with no repeal at all, but instead a kinder, gentler “watered-down” DADT that still kicks gays out, but gets some new pretty layer of frosting that will supposedly make that poison pill taste a little bit nicer.

  35. Mike C. says

    You guys are telling me that, in the grips a double dip economic recession, jobless recover, unemployment, two wars, and healthcare reform, you’re surprised that LGBT issues are not at THE TOP of the agenda for Democrats? Take a dose of reality.

  36. Martin Murray says

    “You support and work with your allies even when they disappoint you. ”

    Obama is not our ally though.

    He believes that we are inferior – he does not believe we should be allowed to marry.

    I had such high hopes of him when he got elected.

    Now I see him as just another slimy, opportunistic bigot.

    Oh and to the poster who said that the Matthew Shepard Act was an advancement in our rights. That is quite simply NOT true.

    That act simply penalises criminals for certain acts more severely. It will not eliminate homophobic murder or bullying.

    The Matthew Shepard Act will be no comfort to Tyler Clementi’s family.

  37. Brent Z says

    I know it feels good to have a hissy fit, and be cynical. But before you give up on Obama, remember a few of these accomplishments okay?

    Health Care Reform:

    1. Coverage can’t be denied to children with pre-existing conditions.

    2. Adults up to age 26 can stay on their parents’ health plans.

    3. Free preventive care.

    4. Rescinding coverage is now illegal.

    5. Eliminating lifetime limits on insurance coverage.

    6. Restricting annual limits on insurance coverage.

    7. More options to appeal coverage decisions.

    8. $5 billion in immediate federal support to affordable Coverage for the Uninsured with Pre-existing Conditions.

    9. $10 billion investment in Community Health Centers.

    10. Create immediate access to re-insurance for employer health plans providing coverage for early retirees.

    11. Made an $80 billion deal with the pharmaceutical industry to contribute to cut prescription drug costs for the nation’s seniors reduce the size of the “donut hole” in the Medicare (Part D) Drug Benefit.


    1. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA) has worked. The Economy Has Been Growing – take a look at the graph of GDP growth between 2007 thru 2010.

    2. US auto industry rescue plan — Detroit making profits again and at least 1 million jobs saved.

    3. Worker, Homeownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009 that extended Unemployment benefits up to 20 weeks and more.

    4. Provided $14.7 billion in small business loans increasing minority access to capital.

    5. The $26 billion aid to states package preventing large-scale layoffs of teachers and public employees.

    Banking and Financial Reform:

    1. Signed a sweeping bank-reform bill (the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act) into law.

    2. Managed the $700 Billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) that Banks have repaid 75% of TARP funds, bringing the cost down to $89B as of June 2010.

    3. Cut Salaries For 65 Bailout Executives.

    4. Closed offshore tax safe havens, tax credit loopholes on companies that use the tax laws to ship American Jobs oversees. HR 4213.

    5. Signed into law the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act to fight fraud in the use of TARP and recovery funds, and to increase accountability for corporate and mortgage frauds.

    6. Signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure Act.


    1. Health Care and Education Affordability Reconciliation Act of 2010 that increased the amount of federal Pell Grant awards and enabled the stripping of banks privileges as intermediaries for student loan servicing.

    2. Created the Race to the Top Fund, a $4.35 billion program to reward States that submit the best proposals for change.

    3. As part of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, funded over$100 Billion for reforms to strengthen Elementary and Secondary education, early learning programs, college affordability and improve access to higher education, and to close the achievement gap.


    1. The $787 billion economic stimulus package has created or saved nearly 2 million jobs slowing the bleeding.

    2. Jobs for Main Street Act (2010)injected $27.5 Billion for Highways, $8.4 Billion for Transit into the country’s transportation system to create jobs and spur economic activity.

    3. A $33 Billion Jobs Package that will allow Small businesses to get $5,000 tax credit for new hires.

    4. A $26 billion State Aid Package Jobs Bill saving 300,000 teachers and public workers jobs from unemployment.

    5. The Auto bailout saved 1 million jobs.

    Green Energy:

    1. Implemented renewable fuels mandate of 36 billion gallons by 2022, four times what we currently consume.

    2. Automakers will be required to meet a fleet-wide average of New Gas Mileage Standards at 35.5 MPH by 2016.

    3. A $60 billion investment in renewable and clean energy.


    1. $275 billion dollar housing plan – $75 billion dollars to prevent at-risk mortgage debtors already fallen victim to foreclosures and $200 billion to bring about confidence to offer affordable mortgages and to stability the housing market.

    2. Established “Opening Doors” to end the homelessness of 640,000 men, women, and children in the United States in 10 years.

    3. Provided $510 Million for the rehabilitation of Native American housing.

    4. Provided $2 billion for Neighborhood Stabilization Program to rehab, resell, or demolish in order to stabilize neighborhoods.

    5. Provided $5 billion for Weatherization Assistance Program for low income families to weatherize 1 million homes per year for the next decade.

    6. Provided grants to encourage states and localities to take the first steps in implementing new building codes that prioritize energy efficiency.

    Medicaid/Medicare/Social Security:

    1. giving $250 economic stimulus check to 55 million Social Security and Supplemental Security Income (SSI) recipients in 2009.

    2. Cutting prescription drug costs for Medicare recipients by 50% and began eliminating the plan’s gap (“donut hole”) in coverage.

    3. Passing as part of H.R.3962 (Preservation of Access to Care for Medicare Beneficiaries and Pension Relief Act of 2010) a $6.4 billion measure reversing a 21 percent cut in physician payments that would have started a flood of rejections by some doctors of seniors covered by Medicare.

    4. Expanded eligibility for Medicaid to all individuals under age 65 with incomes up to 133 percent of the federal poverty level ($14,400 per year for an individual).

    Military Veterans and Families:

    1. Implemented a strategic planto increase the hiring of Veterans and Military spouses throughout the Federal civil service.

    2. Provided for the expenses of families of to be at Dover AFB when fallen soldiers arrive.

    3. Passed the Veterans’ Compensation Cost-of-Living Adjustment Act of 2009 increasing the rates of compensation for veterans with service-connected disabilities and the rates of dependency and indemnity compensation for the survivors of certain disabled veterans.

    4. Declared the end of the war in Iraqi bringing back nearly 100,000 U.S. troops home to their families.

    5. Donated 250K of Nobel prize money to Fisher House, a group that helps provide housing for families of patients receiving medical care at military and Veterans Affairs medical centers.


    1. Extended benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.

    2. Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act.

    3. Instructed HHS to require any hospital receiving Medicare or Medicaid funds (virtually all hospitals) to allow LGBT visitation rights.

    4. Banned job discrimination based on gender identity throughout the Federal government (the nation’s largest employer).

    5. Signed the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Treatment Extension Act.

    6. Extended the Family and Medical Leave Act to cover Gay employees taking unpaid leave to care for their children of same-sex partners.

    7. Lifted the HIV Entry Ban.

    8. Implemented HUD Policies that Would Ban Discrimination Based On Gender Identity.

  38. Toto says

    @Paul R

    What’s this BS assumption that people who criticize on here haven’t done squat? I’ve written to my representatives in the senate and congress, protested, rallied and gone door to door for candidates who clearly support equality. People have the right to bitch and moan and they will until the end of time.

    Wow! DOMA and marriage equality are “easier” to change in the US than DADT?!!! Have you forgotten the little matter of the religious right in this country? Last time I checked their sacred institution sanctified by god was waaaaaay more serious than openly gays fighting beside straights. If you HONESTLY think the Christian zealots are going to make marriage a cake walk than you are a very, very silly man.

  39. Fenrox says

    You know, I want to be as generous and graceful as you all are being.

    You guys are racists. You do not like Obama because he is black. You have this low opinion of him because you have low opinions of all black people. You aren’t “really attracted to them” either, You try to watch white only porn and justify it as “I like white guys, is all”. You say to yourself “Mmm-hmm” and have a “Of course..” moment the second you hear about anything involving black people and gay people.

    You are the worst kind of racists, the ones who will never care enough to see how racist you really are. You have preconceived expectations of every black person, you guys are childish scum.

  40. Gary says

    Obama says his heart breaks when he hears about bullying and suicides, yet he instructs his Justice Department to appeal both DOMA and DADT. Doesn’t that defense just send another message to bullied youth that “you aren’t good enough and something is wrong with you”? Omama doesn’t care about gays. If the Democrats gave us the civil rights we are entitled to under the constitution, they wouldn’t have the deep pockets and purses to fund their campaigns. My pockets are locked to the DNC. I’ve given enough, they’ve had majorities and “WOW” they passed a hate crimes bill. I’ll be so happy if I’m murdered that someone might get a longer sentence.

  41. Q says

    Toto, the fact is is that most of the people bitching on here have NOT done a damn thing. Notice that you are the first person to even address Paul R’s statement.

    I get so sick of people saying “Obama’s words are meaningless” when they haven’t done a gotdamn thing to fight for their own rights. Not a march, not protest, not a sit-in, not a letter written or an email sent, nothing. People who are actually INVOLVED in the fight discuss strategies and exchange ideas and talk about what they have done. They instigate ACTION, not bitch and say “fuck Obama.”
    Whenever there is a post on Obama, suddenly names appear that either never existed before on here or ONLY show up for Obama posts. You want to talk about “meaningless words,” look no further than those names. You can scroll through the inevitable 80+ comments, and count on one hand the ones that have something constructive to say.

    So kudos to you, Toto. But you do not represent the majority in this thread.

  42. Dustin says

    I understand that DADT is not a good thing, but arent things like passing ENDA, and repealing Doma more important to our cause. Im just confused why everyone has been so dedicated to the repeal of DADT. I just think we have more important issues than this.

    Can anyone tell me why ENDA and the repeal of Doma are not being pushed as hard? Maybe I missed something…i know the repeal of DADT would have been convenient with the defensive spending bill, but now why?

  43. Chitown Kev says

    Lord, this thread is a piping hot mess.

    Running all the way from (some) racism to that rather weak tea known as “you simply hate Obama because he’s black” defense.

    Nothing wrong with calling Obama a double dealing two faced hypocrite who says pretty words out of his mouth but his actions don’t match. Hell, I call him out on that all the time.

    Fenrox’s bullshit is just that…bullshit.

    So is calling the President a “monkey.”

  44. Fenrox says

    Kev, you waste, I am illustrating a point. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. If people want to forget anything Obama has done for us and have the nerve to balk at his every fucking decision like he is twirling a mustache, laughing at gay people, I will show you that same respect and boil YOUR criticisms down into racism.

    Are you guys racists? Why would I care about you assholes enough to decide? You do nothing for this discussion, if all I can do is keep you guys balking “I’m not a racist!”, maybe the adults in the room can have a real conversation.

  45. Chitown Kev says


    Honey, I’m black. And what all has Obama “done for us?” Who is this “us” you’re talking about?

    Bitch, please.

    “Nothing wrong with calling Obama a double dealing two faced hypocrite who says pretty words out of his mouth but his actions don’t match.”

    When it comes to GLBT issues, I’ll stand on that statement. Now call me what you will.

  46. TANK says

    I’m not a racist, Fenrox. I’m not a racist. Ask my many black acquaintances that I enjoy being photographed near. This thread’s full of obama apologism. I would imagine that many of the more conservative views, and bald defense of what amounts to playing DDR with human rights, is coming from older people. GODDAMN OLDER PEOPLE! You olds sound like socarides.

  47. says

    Hi, I came upon this blog by chance. Wow, you guys have a rich discourse here.

    I agree with you guys that Obama has avoided making a clear stand on any of these issues. I’m far right-wing (yes, skip ahead if that makes me unreadable in your eyes) and bisexual, so I didn’t vote for Obama in 2008 and probably won’t in 2012.


    On DADT and gay marriage I don’t think it’s an Obama issue; it’s a Democrat issue. The Democrats have relied on a tried-and-true narrative that the Left cares about gays, when in fact, all the Left does is scare gays with horror stories about right-wing people who are in the closet. They’ve held gays hostage with the impression that they can’t ever leave the Party lest Republicans install an antigay Gestapo.

    Hear me out, if you can — actually, the Republicans don’t out people. Democrats do that. Republicans don’t try to make a huge issue of people’s sexuality — Democrats do that.

    I have served in the US Army and am actually still in the Reserves. I also belong to a Southern Baptist congregation and am active in conservative politics. I’ve never been harassed by the Right — only by the gay Left snooping into my life and trying to scandalize me.

    Repealing DADT right now would be a bad idea for gay and lesbian troops currently serving, because it would take away their privacy, then make it too hard to seek a discharge of their own free will. Once DADT is repealed, the sexual orientation won’t be an officially taboo topic and cadre can ask you about it, as well as talk about your orientation with other people in your unit. This will place gays in a very dangerous situation and many will want to get out of the military to escape harassment and threats, only to find that they cant get out because the chapter has been eliminated.

    Very, very few discharges under Chapt. 15 involve people being outed and forced out. At least 80% are people who want to leave. To benefit the 20% who were forced out, you take away a choice for the 80% who don’t want to stay.

    Gays keep telling me I have to let go of DADT for the sake of the gay Left, which outs people (including me) and keeps preaching to young people that they can’t choose their sexual orientation because the gay Left has calculated that that will help with their cause.

    Yet tons of people make choices about whom to date and how publicly to date them. It’s all about choices. So the gay Left is basically trying to force a one-size-fits-all mode of sexuality that is essentially based on false assumptions. If you affirm the gay Left’s goals — DADT/gay marriage — you implicitly endorse their belief that sexuality is biologically determined, people can’t choose, and closeted people are hypocrites who need to be outed. Because none of the latter are things I believe, I am against the policy initiatives that are being used as a propaganda front to push those false beliefs on people.

    As a bisexual married to a woman, I don’t want gay marriage to be legalized right now. Right now, legalizing it is mostly designed to bolster the authority and legitimacy of a gay lobby that keeps pushing its socialist, anti-privacy, outing-happy, “I can’t choose my sexuality” on people, which leads to bullying and the kind of behaviors that led to the specific suicides that dominated the news this month.

    I’m putting my website as a link on my name here. On my blog I’m the only queer bloggers, but there are 9 of us, including a Marxist and one atheist. Most of us are conservatives. I mention it because I have blogged extensively about all these issues and think you guys might benefit from hearing from a different side.


  48. TANK says

    I think we can pretty much ignore all of the lies and bigotry posted by the closet case above me. This man’s a bisexual homophobe, and deserves no time nor thoughtful consideration…though a point by point non-negotiable refutation would be possible. Back to wingnut daily, troll.

  49. TANK says

    OH, and clarification, it’s not a “different side”. Qualitatively, it is identical to the homophobic bullying many of us have experienced throughout our lives, and continue to battle. Just because you don’t use the word “faggot” or the charged religious rhetoric of those who actively promote genocide, doesn’t mean that you’re any better…and you aren’t. You are simply another hate filled bigot who offers nothing new, and nothing even remotely tolerant. Further, there is no “other side” when you reference the homophobia machine that characterizes the radical right–of which you’re just another mindless zombie…just as there isn’t another side to racism…you deserve no recognition because your beliefs are simply without merit, and based on proven falsity.

  50. Paul R says

    @Conservative Rico, I was somewhat interested in your varying viewpoint (though “rich discourse” is too positive a view for many of these comments), but I simply can’t accept your idea that sexuality is a choice. I could never get it up for a woman, even though I can appreciate them aesthetically. I could make out with an attractive woman, but I’m gay. It’s hard-wired.

    As for outing, yes hypocrites who hurt gay people in public while being gay in private should be outed. That’s simple fairness. Hypocrisy is one of the most despicable of traits, especially when it causes carnage, confusion, and self-loathing in others.

    And when you go into linking the “gay lobby” to socialism, well that’s just nuts. And by the way, I’ve not heard any of the families of the kids who have killed themselves deny that the kids were gay. All were out or very close to it, which is something you seem to find despicable or pointless. Sorry, but being out takes a hell of a lot of courage at a young age, even today. We can’t all embrace lie lives.

  51. James Twist says

    Joe My God reports: ‘Dept. of Justice declines to appeal ruling allowing Christianist to Proselytize in Parks.’
    DoJ: Hypocritical much?

  52. W says

    @Brent: Thank you for posting factual information.

    @Toto: Thank you for your active duty in improving the state of lgbt affairs.

    @C.Rico: Thank you for expressing your P.O.V. Although I may not entirely agree with it, you bring up some great points. Yes, Democrats are not the perfect little angels they sometimes fool themselves into believing they are. However, your comment that it is a Democratic issue is false, accusatory. LGBT issues are sadly a political issue. That includes Republicans. As a result, we lose sight of our humanity by getting lost in rhetoric and blame. Rico, you sound intelligent and clear-headed, don’t fall for the political banter. That goes for everyone. The politics of the matter is a mirage to deter you from taking necessary action. No one is to blame except ourselves. Take responsibility for our actions and trust that if we voice our purest selves the rest of the world has no choice but to open up to the light and warmth of our spirit. Our anger is justified. How we apply that energy is a matter of choice.

    Everyone…Many people have a great point on this blog, but if your beliefs get in the way of actually achieving your goals towards equality, then what’s the point of having those beliefs?

    Humanity, to me, is great empathy. To care and to empathize means to put yourself in someone else’s shoes.