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Washington Post columnist Sally Quinn says that John McCain is "absolutely for" gays in the military.

"I hate to see John McCain sell out like this."


(via the new civil rights movement)

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  1. Interesting. So is she saying that Cindy McCain's tweet that seemed to contradict her disapproval of Don't Ask, Don't Tell in the NoH8 ad was really some coded message to let us all know that John McCain really wants to repeal DADT? I don't buy that.

    Posted by: Brian | Nov 19, 2010 12:23:37 PM

  2. And that was Washington conventional wisdom, of which she is the queen.

    Posted by: Todd Merrell | Nov 19, 2010 12:23:59 PM

  3. McCain is in her father's ignorant camp. He doesn't know and just can't stand the thought. McCain is anti-gay, it would just be easier if he came out and said that he doesn't think gay people should have the same rights as straight people. At least he'd have integrity if he did that.

    Posted by: Alpha | Nov 19, 2010 12:43:22 PM

  4. What soul?

    Posted by: jersey | Nov 19, 2010 12:54:15 PM

  5. She's an idiot. John McCain is against gays in the military and always has been.

    "I think he'll got for it in the end." Oh please.

    "One orderly he had was very gay." Meaning what, Sally?

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Nov 19, 2010 1:00:51 PM

  6. There's probably a bit of senility driving his actions.

    Posted by: Mike in the Tundra | Nov 19, 2010 1:09:45 PM

  7. Sally Quinn can go FUCK HERSELF. She has no credibility when it comes to talking about gay rights after allowing Tony Perkins to use the Post to spread his vicious, vile lies about gay people. Seriously Sally, fuck off and die.

    Posted by: gaylib | Nov 19, 2010 1:29:05 PM

  8. Personal experiance teaches me that truely anti-gay behaviour has something behind it. Something that made that person scared of gays or of themselves. In Mc Cains case one can only suspect (POW Camp?) what it might be, but it sure is fact now. He is going to fight DADT to his last breath...and so should we...History is on our side.

    Posted by: booka | Nov 19, 2010 1:32:59 PM

  9. @Gaylib, I repeatedly find your comments disturbing, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. You spread as much "visious vile" as the people you accuse when you tell someone so crudely to go "f*ck herself" "f*uck off and die." I really wish you would change or move.

    Posted by: Mike C. | Nov 19, 2010 1:38:53 PM

  10. Uh.... McCain has been fighting the repeal of DADT for a lot more than the last election cycle.

    Yes, McCain sold his soul, but he sold it a ways back.

    Posted by: BobN | Nov 19, 2010 1:51:19 PM

  11. Mike C, you are a concern troll. And concern trolls are concerned.

    As has been said, it doesn't matter if he's privately not antigay or pro DADT repeal, or whatever. He's a homophobe. She's merely feathering her cocktail schedule with this, "He'll come around," flourishy nonsense. He won't. I can't stand wasps.

    Posted by: TANK | Nov 19, 2010 2:02:01 PM

  12. @Mike C***, I'm sorry, but we need to fight fire with fire.

    Our problem is that we don't stand up for ourselves, and we don't know how to play hardball. I'll take a fire-breathing Alan Grayson over that meek, useless Obama any day.

    Comparing Gaylib's "crude," completely justified rant to the very real damage that Quinn and Perkins are doing is absolutely ridiculous.

    Posted by: DH | Nov 19, 2010 2:07:53 PM

  13. DH, Alan Grayson is already out of office, after two years. He lost in a landslide, he never even stood a chance at re-election. What are our chances of progress if only support fire-breathing liberals who can't get anything done and can't even be elected? Alan Grayson may have social capital with you, but he had no political capital.

    Posted by: Mike C. | Nov 19, 2010 3:03:05 PM

  14. He had no political capital because he was elected in a highly backward, regressive shithole district due to a freak accident, mike c. Everyone knew he wasn't going to be reelected in that methed up white trash republican distirct. If he weren't representing trailer trash, he'd have been reelected. But you keep backing gutless "liberals" and other moderates...what you don't know everything.

    Posted by: TANK | Nov 19, 2010 3:15:00 PM

  15. And honestly, florida is a fucking joke to begin with. The state just elected a known corporate criminal's an embarrassment to the union, and always has been.

    Posted by: TANK | Nov 19, 2010 3:21:23 PM

  16. Mike--What chance of progress do we have if the "let's play nice-nice" people get elected and then fail to push anything through or even make a forceful argument. Milquetoast liberals have neither social, nor political capital.

    The republicunts have proven that being nice doesn't get you anywhere. Nastiness does, apparently. They have plenty of successful fire-breathers.

    Grayson aside, we would never know because we've never tried it.

    I realize you're not the real enemy, but this attitude of yours is really holding us back.

    Posted by: DH | Nov 19, 2010 3:22:00 PM

  17. Grayson was defeated because the U.S. Chamber of Congress and the 60 Plus Association poured a ton of money into ads slandering him.

    Someone on Glenn Beck's show said, "it’s okay if the Republicans lose every seat in the Senate and the House except for one. As long as that one is Alan Grayson losing." Sarah Palin agreed. He was the one and only Democrat they were afraid of.

    Posted by: DH | Nov 19, 2010 3:44:23 PM

  18. Hey Mike C.--Kiss my fat gay ass, then go fuck yourself. No time for wilting flowers. If you're not as outraged as I am, you're either not paying attention or too much of a coward to fight. Either way you're useless. If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. No one is forcing you. Change or move? Fuck that. Oh, and it's spelled vicious, dumbass.

    Posted by: gaylib | Nov 19, 2010 3:47:57 PM

  19. Sally Quinn is just saying what most of us have known for some time. DADT repeal is a done deal. It has been for the better part of a year.

    While it's been fun to watch the Dan Choi & Co. team put on their little shows, they arrived at the end of a very long struggle.

    Likely DOA now are trans-inclusive ENDA and DOMA repeal.

    Marriage is now a state-by-state issue. Issues at the federal level won't move much unless the GOP perceives some political capital in advancing same-sex marriage.

    But for at least the next two years, the battles are largely legislative ones so y'all can stop chaining yourselves to fences and going on hunger strikes until you get a Big Mac craving. You should still be able to grab $10k a speech claiming credit on the backs of 15 years of work by thousands of people so go for it.

    Posted by: Rob G. | Nov 20, 2010 12:07:36 AM

  20. As Barney Frank once said--"My people have a saying: what planet are you from?"

    Posted by: Skye Winspur | Nov 20, 2010 11:38:34 AM

  21. @Rob G: You are kidding yourself if you think repeal of DADT is a done deal and "has been for the better part of a year."

    The ACTUAL language in the current "compromise" that passed the House and is awaiting full Senate approval does NOT repeal DADT nor outlaw discrimination against gays in the military. What the bill does do is kick repeal to the President, the defense secretary and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. These 3 must certify to the Congress that the policy can be ended without hurting the military. There is then a SIXTY day waiting period while Congress reviews the certification before the Pentagon begins implementation of the change.

    With the Republicans in control of the U.S. House, who knows what might happen in that 60-day review period, and there is NO deadline as to when the President must act on certification. There is also NO guarantee that the military recommendation will be for full integration of gays and lesbians throughout the entire U.S. military.

    We must keep pushing our "fierce advocates" to do the right thing.

    Posted by: TruthSeeker_Too | Nov 20, 2010 3:56:09 PM

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