1. LincolnLounger says

    “Cool tempered”?!?! Ask Marc Thiessen about that. Or when he had to apologize for the racial overtones as to Michael Steele’s “dancing as fast as he can”. Or when he got yanked off “Morning Joe” live because he was so out of control.

    Beck and Olbermann are insane, and I’m not a fan of O’Reilly; however, he has something none of them do and that is ratings.

    I’m sure both people watching the self-avowed “European socialist” rant were thrilled. I think it’s called the “Rage of the Drowning Man”.

  2. justme says

    How is it a virtue that a propagandist like O’Reilly on a network designed intentionally to misinform has better ratings than the people who tell the truth? Besides, Fox is everywhere in every market, which is a great tragedy and a triumph or corruption, so, of course, his ratings are better compared to lesser networks — how could they not be? We all know this, don’t you? You’re posted these thoughts before and they still make no sense.

  3. patrick nyc says

    Colbert had a great bit last night on that schmuck O’Reilly. That poll about Fox News watchers matches what the Pew poll said years ago, they are the most ill-informed people in this Country, I know, my family is among them.

  4. johnny says

    When I look at O’Reilly, I see a limp rubber bag that is used to clean and refresh the uterine linings of old women with either Summer’s Eve or a vinegar mixture.

  5. Daniel says

    Hey Lincolnlounger–you know what else gets ratings? Two and a Half Men. The fact that there are a lot of stupid people who watch Blowhard O’Reilly’s show just shows how sad this country is.

  6. gr8guyca says

    @ Lincolnlounger: How can you even equate Beck and the MSNBC anchors? “Beck and Olbermann are crazy.” Olbermann may be hot-headed and florid in his language, but he is never spouting outright fiction, the way Beck does. And how about Rachel Maddow and Beck? One is a Rhodes Scholar and the other never went to college, although he puts on a faux-professorial demeanor – chalkboard included. MSNBC has an editorial bent; but Fox News is more than bent, it’s broken.

  7. LincolnLounger says

    Good Lord, I never wanted to be the defender of Fox News; however, they very often have commentators addressing both sides of a subject — very unlike MSNBC. Specifically, Olbermann and Matthews, who can only tolerate a “hallelujah chorus”.

    Fox at least has liberal and Democrat “contributors” who give you another perspective. Ed Rendell is the perfect example. MSNBC shoves Scarborough in the a.m. and Buchanan is just a tired clown.

    For the record, I think Maddow, with whom I often disagree (and she drives me crazy with all that smirking), is well thought out, researched, and reasoned. I think Anderson Cooper and Greta Van Susteren are good, too. It’s not fair to paint either network with a broad brush, just as we don’t like all gay people referred to in the same way.

    Without being the Fox News defender, my point is that O’Donnell, who revels in calling himself a “socialist” and “far to the left” of liberals, is hardly “cool tempered”, mainstream, or fair.

  8. Mike says

    I am NO fan of Bill O’Reilly. I can’t stand watching him, and have long suspected that he doesn’t have any actual beliefs but will happily rant on whatever he believes will get him ratings and line his pockets. I can’t watch even a moment of his show without feeling ill.

    That said, calling Lawrence O’Donnell “cool-tempered” is the biggest laugh I’ve had in weeks. Ask Cathy Seipp (well, the late Cathy Seipp). Ask Joe Scarborough. Ask anyone who listened to his error-filled rant about the Virginia Tech shootings. The guy LOVES to yell and is about as self-righteous as they come, to boot.

  9. MontyMonty says

    It has always been my suspicion that there are alot of discreet homoconservatives..and reading some of the bizarre equations of some of the commentators, it is clear. I have just one question, who put the moon there?

  10. TANK says

    Commentary on the commentary on the commentary. How meta. I suppose it is satisfying. However, one can’t help but notice that his ratings aren’t o’lielly’s, and that o’lielly doesn’t concern himself with these kinds of criticisms in the same time slot. Apparently there is a demand for people who watch such entertainment news on msnbc to be reassured that they are in the right, and that fox news is terrible and that the people who watch fox news are terrible. Keith Olbermann did the same thing to similar effect, and this odonnell character is taking a play out of that book. As far as manufacturing issues, this is tame compared to the status quo at fox.

  11. TANK says

    “Fox at least has liberal and Democrat ‘contributors’ who give you another perspective. Ed Rendell is the perfect example.”

    Democrat? Hey, you went out of your way to capitalize it so you wouldn’t forget the talking point. How about Republicants? Can’t create jobs, can’t address the issues coherently or accurately, e.g., fed monetary policy, health insurance reform, and actual rate of inflation. Yeah, we need a fiscal contraction in one of the worst economic downturns since the great depression…because that’s not what the american people want according to polling data. Brilliant!

    So fox has token liberals and democrats on…who happen to be almost without exception unintelligent to feed the entertainment narrative. And msnbc gives time to republicant strategists with democratic strategists. And they say yay and nay, too…like the tides, these people are. And for you to refer to either is another perspective belies a great misunderstanding of the irreconcilable polarization that characterize the farce of contemporary political debate.

  12. JT says

    The “ratings” comparison is always a stupid one…here is why.
    Overwhelmingly, all Fox News viewers, ONLY wtahc Fox News. They wouldnt never watch any of the other programs. Conservatives seek out only what backs up their already biggoted and uniformed views. By en large, more progressive people diversify their viewing, reading (a conservative kryptonite), internet, and several news channels. If you add it all up, O’Reily’s lil dog and batshit pony show is a speck. But yes, lets continue to compare Billo’s ratings (average 3.5 million per nite) to lets say…Jersey Shore (8-9 million per episode) Thats probably the same level of education for each programs viewers as well.
    And we know there are a bunch of GayCons on here, apologists whom do whatever they can to make a case for their furors.

  13. StillmarriedinCA says

    @Lincolnlounger–Olbermann is insane?? Please give an example. He has delivered some of the most eloquent and insightful commentary in the last decade. When has he ever said anything that was a lie, or even untrue, without correcting himself on air–on the rare occasion when he has made a mistake? That can not be said for Beck, O’Reilly, Hannity, and the rest of the Faux clowns.
    You can not get away with equating Beck and Olbermann, living breathing THINKING people see right through that nonsense.

  14. says

    “… argumentative Irish guy who can’t back up anything……”
    Whoa, wait up……
    We Irish are completely ashamed of any association with this pathetic bigot, we regard O’Reilly as scum of the earth.

    There are good Irish guys out here, and O’Donnell you are one of them.

  15. Dave L says

    Lincoln Lounger: Sorry buddy, you’re misinformed about MSNBC. Keith seldom had a dissenting voices on his show, it’s true, but Matthews regularly hosts some of the most belligerent Right Wing nuts (cf Ron Christie Lawrence O’Donnell is not afraid to debate anyone and will host and has hosted anyone who is not afraid to face him. Rachel begs Right Wingers to come on her show to face her.

    The Fox News “opposition” are mostly paid hacks to play along with the Fox News narrative. “On this one I agree with you bill, my left wing friends are totally wrong this time.” Though to give credit where credit is due, O’Reilly is not afraid to take on Lefties (he’s been on Bill Maher and Jon Stewart). You’re right about him at least a little. But characterizing MSNBC as only tolerating a chorus of hallelujah’s is off base. IMHO.

  16. Dave L says

    Just Me:
    “How is it a virtue that a propagandist like O’Reilly on a network designed intentionally to misinform has better ratings than the people who tell the truth?”

    It has always been the case. You’ve heard of the lowest common denominator? That is the principle at work there. They have found a way to tap into the lowest common denominator and then trumpet their success with the uninformed and uneducated as evidence of reliability.

    Just remember, you know who kicks O’Reilly’s butt week after week? Sponge Bob Square Pants. It’s true. look it up. :)

  17. Talisman says

    Anyone who thinks that O’Donnell is “cool tempered” has never watched his show. He is frequently argumentative with his guests, and will hammer them on a point without giving them a chance to answer. He comes across as arrogant, with an “repect meh authoritay” attitude.

    His show can’t be canceled fast enough for me.

  18. Reggie says

    Comparing Olbermann to any of the rightwingnuts always gets me upset, because I have watched Keith’s show for some time, and appreciate his reasoned and researched pieces, so unlike Fox’s people. O’Donnell is cool tempered because he does not show the emotion others do. But he does hold the talking heads’ feet to the fire, and he does hammer a point home, especially when that person is doing the usual poliician dance around the issues. Arrogant? Watch any of the rightwingnuts. THAT is arrogant, and misinformed.

  19. says

    I was actually kind of offended by the “Irish guys” comment. What does that have to do with anything? There are overbearing types of any ethnicity… too many of them, unfortunately.

    Aside from that… O’Donnell should know why O’Reilly thinks MSNBC is “anti-American.” MSNBC is an ebil librul organization, and they’re the competitors to the real American channel… and all competitors to that channel are elitist, anti-American snobs. (I wish I could say that’s sarcasm, but I actually think that’s how the O’Reilly’s of the world think.)

  20. jaragon says

    Billo is a very smart guy who knows how to make money from exploiting the ignorant masses. Once in a while he will say something that actually makes sense or he will bring on Clown Beck to make himself look slightly sane.

  21. LincolnLounger says

    “O’Donnell calls himself a ‘practical European socialist’ in a Newsmaker Interview dated November 11, 2005. On November 6, 2010, O’Donnell re-declared himself a socialist on the “Morning Joe” show. The MSNBC host stated, ‘[U]nlike you, I am not a progressive. I am not a liberal who is so afraid of the word that I had to change my name to progressive. Liberals amuse me. I am a socialist. I live to the extreme left, the extreme left of you mere liberals ….'”'Donnell

  22. Brian says

    Sadly, O’Reilly’s fans (and Fox News fans in general) are just to stupid to realize they’re being lied to. The same folks who listen to trash like Anne Coulter and Glen Beck think evolution is a lie and every gay person in the world wants to convert their children. Education may well be the key to solving ignorance, but those who refuse to be educated will always remain so…

  23. nic says

    @lincolnlounger, you debase lincoln’s name. you are nothing but a shill and a troll. moreover you are a liar just like the idiot you are attempting to defend. don’t pretend to be other than who you are while being so transparent. when o’reilly asked who put the moon there, did you say, “why, YOU hung the moon, sweetheart!”

  24. Lesbia says

    Hmmm, interesting, Lawrence O’Donnell, the Harvard graduate lawyer’s son is going to tell us about the needy and talk about his Christ like attributes. He looks like a big headed inbred creep.

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