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California Megachurch Choir Forces Members to Sign Anti-Gay Pact

Well, isn't this disgusting? Orange County's Crystal Cathedral has asked the members of its choir to sign a "covenant" asking them to respect the Biblical view of sexual intimacy and marriage, between one man and one woman, the Orange County Register reports:

Crystalcathedral The "Crystal Cathedral Worship Choir and Worship Team Covenant," recently handed out to members, states that members should commit to being Christians by following the Bible in every way.

Former and current choir members say they are particularly offended by a statement in the document that refers to homosexuality. Long-time church members say this is the first time they have seen the cathedral take a firm stand against homosexuality and are disturbed by it.

The covenant states: "I understand that in an era where images of family relationship and personal sexuality are often confused, Crystal Cathedral Ministries believes that it is important to teach and model the biblical view. I understand that Crystal Cathedral Ministries teaches that sexual intimacy is intended by God to only be within the bonds of marriage, between one man and one woman."

Some choir members are furious.

"If I were still in the choir and if that was presented to me, and if a gay person had walked out, I would have walked out with him or her," she said. "If you are a Christian group and people come to you, you should be a good servant, love them and shine the light of Jesus on them – regardless of who they are."

A cathedral spokesman said that the pact doesn't mean gays are banned from the choir, they are just "strongly encouraged" to sign something that says who they are and what they do is wrong.

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  1. The last I heard, the crystal cathedral was on the verge of bankruptcy and was being driven into the ground due to infighting about wild spending habits.

    Posted by: hank | Mar 16, 2011 8:03:45 AM


  2. Isn't there a parable about "living in glass houses"? hmmmm?

    Posted by: Darren | Mar 16, 2011 8:15:58 AM


  3. And if a woman cannot be proven to be a virgin at the time of marriage, she shall be stoned.

    Posted by: the woodrow | Mar 16, 2011 8:26:56 AM


  4. @Darren you are so right and this "church" owes everyone money but won't pay their bills. I hope they also included the seafood and clothing laws of the book of fairy tales. At least, they shouldn't let women speak because that's in there too. Signed- Glad an atheist lives in me.

    Posted by: Skooter McGoo | Mar 16, 2011 8:28:44 AM


  5. It's a conservative evangelical church, and as such, it is expected and supposed to uphold biblical teaching on sexuality, which forbids sex outside of heterosexual marriage. Period. If someone doesn't like their rule, they should find a more liberal church.

    Posted by: malcolm | Mar 16, 2011 8:33:53 AM


  6. Of course, the pastor, son of the founder, was unfaithful to and divorced his wife, but nobody even notices the hypocrisy anymore.

    Posted by: ellipse | Mar 16, 2011 8:46:12 AM


  7. "Just 'strongly encouraged' to sign something that says who they are and what they do is wrong." - Oh, OK, maybe it could be - oh something like a pink triangle they could wear on their sleeve. There was some group that used that once.

    Posted by: Rob | Mar 16, 2011 8:50:40 AM


  8. I'll say that these clows have lost their christianity, it's all about spreading the hatred while overlooking hypocrisy. I say let the crystal cult house shatter. Demand they pay taxes!

    Posted by: Ish | Mar 16, 2011 8:52:31 AM


  9. When will us homosexuals realise that the organised religions HATE us.
    If you must believe in sky fairies fine, but keep out of the churches, it just enables them to hurt you more.

    Posted by: rovex | Mar 16, 2011 9:10:02 AM


  10. This church MUST be a predominately (or totally) white church because so far no one has mentioned black people (gay or straight) even once.

    Posted by: elg | Mar 16, 2011 9:32:19 AM


  11. Organized religion is a joke, albeit not a very funny one.

    Posted by: matt | Mar 16, 2011 9:33:00 AM


  12. Christianly, morally and economically bankrupt!

    Posted by: John | Mar 16, 2011 9:40:59 AM


  13. "She" said?!

    REAL Christian women keep their mouths shut.

    Who let his property talk?

    She probably goes out IN PUBLIC when menstruating (you know, afflicted by the disease)... UNCLEAN.

    Enjoy the shrimp scampi at Olive Garden!

    Posted by: Rich | Mar 16, 2011 9:43:20 AM


  14. the tilt to far right is a function of sonny boy taking over and seeking to curry favor with the big money religious right. daddy was no champion of gay rights, but the church then elected to have no position.

    of COURSR it would be the adulterer claiming moral high ground...

    Posted by: jack | Mar 16, 2011 9:47:35 AM


  15. @ellipse - Jesus said that it was "better to never marry than to divorce." Contemporary Christians seem to interpret this as "marry as often as you like."

    Posted by: marshallt | Mar 16, 2011 9:49:52 AM


  16. LOL (with) ELG:

    I hear you. If the Crystal Cathedral's congregation and administration had been predominately Black we'd have been reading some Towleroad posters writing about "sending Blacks back to the cotton fields." I've never seen so many people interested in cotton futures than on this blog. Oh, my...LOL.

    Posted by: Derrick from Philly | Mar 16, 2011 9:54:46 AM


  17. Actually, I feel sad after reading this news. Yes, it is possible for gay Christians or choir members to leave Crystal Cathedral and worship elsewhere. But if they've been there a long while, this can be difficult to do. Strong or long ties are hard to sever. I'll bet there are a number of gay choir members at Crystal Cathedral who are genuinely upset by this development, and who are struggling with what they should do. It's so easy for those on the outside to say what people should do, much different if you're on the inside.

    Posted by: Hawthorne | Mar 16, 2011 10:35:51 AM


  18. I hope the gay architect Philip Johnson, who designed their fanciful glass church, was well paid and is resting in peace. When will organized churches realize the immense gifts LGBT folks bring with our highly attuned sense of spirituality? And our immense creativity? When they force us out, churches become bitter and uninspiring places.

    Posted by: Josh | Mar 16, 2011 10:37:17 AM


  19. These churches are so hypocritical, so inconsistent, and so lax on what and who they actually condemn for going against "Holy standards." Let's get real, people, these conservatives are going after us more and more the more and more we make advances. We are under ATTACK from religious fundamentalists. We need to no longer be tolerant of these individuals. That has gone out the window. They want to use the God factor to control us and denigrate our lives. Well, time to turn the tables, and use the God factor against them. Because no God I know would support such clear cut bigotry.

    Posted by: Francis | Mar 16, 2011 10:43:33 AM


  20. I have to say I agree with the church. Christianity forbids homosexuality. They're really just putting their money where their mouth is. More churches should do the same thing.

    I'm sick of all these gays saying "you can be gay and Christian." No matter how much you want it to be true, qet it through your heads guys--you cant, and they don't want you.

    The larger question, to me, is why gays stay with the church at all. It's like an abused wife who refuses to divorce her husband.

    Posted by: Todd | Mar 16, 2011 10:46:40 AM


  21. They just don't want their choir to suck. Is that so bad?

    Posted by: Out of Tune | Mar 16, 2011 10:49:01 AM


  22. This is depressing. But as others have pointed out, hardly surprising. What's even more confounding is how any self-respecting gay person could continue to support a CHURCH in the first place? I have several gay friends who also are members of congregations and avid churchgoers, and while I am all for freedom to believe whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, here is yet another example of how the church DOES hurt, and hate (and while there may in fact be a few "liberal churches" out there, the large majority are no doubt right in line w/ Crystal Cathedral). C'mon, gays: isn't time you evolved your spiritual thinking and practice beyond these silly old fairytales? Spirituality isn't as rule-laden or as difficult as the religions of the world would have you believe.

    Posted by: TonyNY | Mar 16, 2011 10:50:05 AM


  23. No self-respecting gay person would sign this piece of s#%t.

    I would like to know how non-gay choir members are responding. How many are sticking up for their fellow choir members who are gay?

    Posted by: Tony | Mar 16, 2011 11:01:56 AM


  24. Todd, what you describe applies to a large number of Christian churches, but not all. You actually can be Christian and believe in Jesus and his message without absorbing all of the sin dogma in the Bible. You wouldn't be able to function in this modern world if you adhered to all the admonitions in the Bible.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Mar 16, 2011 11:09:00 AM


  25. There goes another good place to find dates!

    Posted by: anon | Mar 16, 2011 11:14:12 AM


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