1. Phil says

    Someone who shows this kind of determination has every possibility of making it to the White House in 2016.

  2. Brian in Texas says

    Easier to be a “fierce advocate” when you’re Gov of a liberal state. Obama has done all that he can considering the congress he’s had to deal with both before and after the republican take over of the house. Plenty of those Dems who made up the majority were from conservative districts. He’s the most pro gay president we’ve had so far. Although, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t still push him to do more and stay on the ball.

    Congrats to the Gov.

  3. just_a_guy says

    Mark my words: This man is a real leader. We don’t see enough like him.

  4. Codswallop says

    What Cuomo is talking about is the real reason I’m disappointed in so many Democratic leaders, even our so-called allies. How hard is it to “take the case (for gay rights) to the people?”

    “There has never been a human civilization in which homosexuality didn’t exist. We know this from their myths, art, laws, and the writings they left behind. It is quite simply a fact of life, part of the human condition, and it’s time we stop pretending it’s something new or controversial. It isn’t. It isn’t something that’s going to go away, no matter what laws we pass or if we don’t talk about it. We have tried that in the past and it doesn’t work because each new generation, in the complete absence of information or encouragement, invents homosexuality for itself because it’s natural for them to do so. The question isn’t why there needs to be fairness and justice for gay people, but why we haven’t already done it.”

    How hard is that?

  5. Tim NC says

    Obama could accomplish more simply by learning how to negotiate better. He continues to “start” out with positions that are centrist and has to move to the right when compromising with the republicans.

    On the other hand, republicans start out with proposals that are are far to the right as humanly possible. That way they know they will end up agreeing to something that is center-right in the end.

    Obama should have let the budget from the progressive caucus be the starting point. Then the compromise could end up being something centrist instead of center-right.

    Obama needs to stop offering the position he wants to end up with as his starting point.

  6. Mark says


    I have to disagree with you slightly. It’s true that the republicans do start out with positions that are as extreme as humanly possible. But they don’t negotiate. They never yield an inch from those extreme positions because those positions are built into their blood, so to speak.

    Republicans are like a machine that does what it’s programmed to do regardless of the circumstances. Here’s what their program instructions are: if you’re in power, get as much of your positions passed into law as possible. If you don’t have enough power to do that, then sabotage the work of the opposition as much as possible.

    Someone once said that the republican party is at the root of all the problems this country has. Truer words were never spoken. Republicans don’t care a whit about America. What they care about is holding on to power and codifying their extreme positions into eternal law. Remember that when you go vote!

  7. blatherer says

    I commend the Governor for what he is doing. Sooner or later, the truth will prevail that we just want to be treated fairly and have the same opportunities for happiness that other people take for granted.

    I agree with the comment that the republican party (in its present form) is the root of all that is evil in this country. Just today the republicans in Florida passed a huge tax cut for businesses while cutting unemployment benefits for its citizens.

    The republican comment was: “pigs eat, hogs get slaughtered”.

  8. Tim NC says


    But, the republicans do negotiate. Look at the last temp budget extension. They threw in all that crap about Planned Parenthood, which they didn’t care about, just so they could bargain it back and get more $$$ cuts from the dems with it. And, it worked like a charm. The dems paid an extra 5 bil in order to remove the Planned Parenthood cuts. The dems spent all their time arguing about Planned Parenthood instead of anything else that was proposed.

  9. Phil says

    @ Tim NC,

    The comments from Brian in Texas and Mark illustrate why it’s often a waste of time to try to negotiate with Republicans who have no intention of negotiating. Energy is better directed toward keeping them out of power.

  10. just_a_guy says

    Mark, you’ve got a point…

    The Republicans are the BORG.

    But what does it mean that we are fighting the Borg in politics? Maybe it means we can reach SOME of them that really want to be HUMAN and not part of the BORG anymore.

    Legislators are supposed to communicate with ALL their constituents. I didn’t say agree or slavishly follow. But lead. And communicate. And show them that they are more than Borg-fall-in-lines, but real humans with dignity and potential, and bright ideas of their own.

    I think we can at least chip away at the BORG membership.

    (Did I spell that right? I never really was a trekkie.)

  11. bklynbryan says

    I don’t buy Andrew Cuomo as pro-gay. But let’s see marriage equality in NYS and maybe i’ll change my mind.

  12. r says

    This is LEADERSHIP.

    It’s also great to read such clear and intelligent comments on the blog.

    Thanks guys!

  13. Rin says

    The problem with America today and why change is so slow is that we are easily distracted and basically apathetic.

    If all of the people who said in casual conversation with their coworkers or friends: I don’t have a problem with gay marriage, spent just 20 minutes to write that very same thing in just a friggin email to their representatives…this would be a done deal by now.

    I have gay friends who I was shocked to find out “missed” voting the day our referendum went down.

    I ask myself, is it the water? Is it the iPhone? Did the Internet and Television really fry our brains and suck the energy out of us?

    I just don’t get it. This should be a lot easier.

  14. mcNnyc says

    This is a LEADER…who goes out front and puts it on the table.
    Congrats to the Democratic Andrew Cuomo….
    I guess the Republican Money Man Mayor Mike Bloomberg is trolling the backrooms of the GOP cause he sure is not front and center like the Governor is.
    Time for Richard Socarides who campaigned for Mayor Mike to call in his chits now.

  15. Mark says


    When you see republicans “negotiate” it only looks like they’re negotiating. What they “negotiate” about is really secondary. You will never see a true republican yield so much as a hair’s breadth on issues that are the most important ones (example: gay rights).

    I suspect the republicans are divided into two camps: the true believers and those brainwashed by the true believers. I don’t think you need me to tell you that the true believers have hijacked the party (and the country as well, by managing to get just enough republican senators elected to have filibuster veto power over anything the democrats want to do).

    The hardcore true believers (the ideologues/homo haters) are the ones that need to be unseated because they are the loudest mouths working to brainwash the confused but rational republicans sitting close to the fence. Unfortunately, unseating the hardcore bigots is next to impossible since most of them are elected by the country’s most conservative regions, where hatred, ignorance, and homophobia run rampant, and opposition efforts are almost non-existent.

    As for the brainwashed ones, that is a sad state to be in. They’re not inconvertible when it comes to their positions on gay rights. The problem with them is that they on the hand fear the hardcore bigots, and on the other hand they pay attention to their constituent’s opinions.

    I imagine that once they come to believe opposing gay rights will cost them re-election, they’d be in a hurry to start supporting gay marriage. Unfortunately, we’re not at that point of public opinion just yet. Even if a slight majority of people are “just ok” with gay marriage, all that says is that they’re willing to tolerate it, not that they’ll take to the streets or be a loud mouth writing their legislators in support of it. Opponents of gay marriage are passionate loudmouths, and those are the ones legislators hear from, not the slight majority who is just indifferent to the issue one way or the other.