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NOM Posts Plan to Reverse Marriage Equality in New York

The National Organization for Marriage's Brian Brown has announced NOM's plan to reverse marriage equality in New York.

Brown And here it is:

We're putting together a 4-year campaign strategy that will reverse same-sex marriage in New York. We'll have many more details, and ways for you to get involved, in the days ahead but the overall plan will have three phases:

PHASE 1:
Elect pro-marriage majorities next November that will approve a marriage amendment in both the Assembly and Senate during the 2013 legislative session.

PHASE 2:
Protect pro-marriage candidates in the 2014 elections, so that the amendment can receive final legislative approval in the 2015 legislative session.

PHASE 3:
Successfully pass the ballot measure when it goes before voters in November 2015.

Laurel Ramseyer at Pam's House Blend makes note of how ridiculous the plan is:

Recall that the Assembly passed the Marriage Equality Act by a vote of 80-63 and the Senate passed it by a vote of 33-29. To accomplish this mean-spirited plan, NOM would have to replace at least 18 pro-equality Assembly members and 3 pro-equality Senators (incumbents all) with anti-equality challengers, get a majority of both chambers to approve a proposed amendment, maintain the anti-equality majorities through another election, then get the majority of both chambers to vote anti-equality for a second time.

Then the question would go to the voters, who already overwhelmingly support marriage equality.

Good luck, bigots.

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  1. To the fools who think you're teaching the Democrats a lesson by sitting out an election, hope you like the present makeup of the House of Representatives.
    We only harm ourselves when we whine and complain without showing up at the polls. Sen. Greg Ball narrowly defeated a pro-marriage equality in the last elections.

    Posted by: NY2.0 | Jun 29, 2011 11:15:33 AM


  2. This is all about Brian and Maggie raising money so they won't have to go get real jobs. There is no chance marriage equality in New York will be repealed. Sadly, most NOM supporters are so stupid that they don't reralize this and will fork over a ton of money to these people.

    Posted by: Ken | Jun 29, 2011 11:18:02 AM


  3. "Good luck, bigots."

    I think the proper term is

    "Good luck, assholes."

    Posted by: Victor | Jun 29, 2011 11:30:26 AM


  4. In 2015 marriage equality will be a non-issue in New York just as it is a non-issue everywhere save Iowa.

    Even if, by some extremely slim chance, this chain of events were to happen, most of the public will be very used to everyone being married in New York who wants to be married, same-sex or different sex.

    Posted by: esther blodgett | Jun 29, 2011 11:31:57 AM


  5. Hey Germany, Welcome to Russia.

    Posted by: Jon B | Jun 29, 2011 11:38:01 AM


  6. According to ballotpedia.com: New York: A majority vote is required (in two successive sessions of) the New York State Legislature.

    So it would just be a simple majority.

    They may have to turn more than 9 in the Assembly though, because there were some vacancies due to Cuomo appointments this time around.

    Posted by: Bruno | Jun 29, 2011 11:41:06 AM


  7. If they start a petition to have a NY State Constitutional Amendment to abolish same-sex marriage, we should start a similar petition to amend to abolish all marriages in the State of New York. Perhaps then, these idiots would know how it feels to be discriminated against!

    Posted by: Leto | Jun 29, 2011 11:47:16 AM


  8. The problem with open elections for gay rights issues is that people fall into 4 categories:

    1) violently opposed to gay rights
    2) doesn't approve of gay rights
    3) thinks gays should have rights
    4) will do everything in their power to win gay rights.

    If a series of polls say that a majority of people approve of gay rights, I'm willing to bet that majority lives mostly in group 3, and group 3 doesn't show up at the voting booth when it counts. Those who will stop at nothing to vote against gay rights wouldn't miss an election for the world. The majority in polls don't seem to believe in it strongly enough to actually show up to vote for it.

    Just my theory.

    Posted by: Brian | Jun 29, 2011 11:51:31 AM


  9. I mean, I'm almost surprised, because I could think of 2 "easier" ways for NOM to try & overturn this. The first would be in court, given the nonseverability clause. The second would be to employ their first 2 phases, but just have these tremendously anti-gay legislature forget the amendment step and just overturn the law. Of course, none of this is likely to happen, not in a state like NY. There would have to be a serious GOP wave election in the state like never seen before.

    Posted by: Bruno | Jun 29, 2011 11:55:59 AM


  10. This is the most blatantly obvious and grossly needy attempt at keeping a paycheck witnessed in a while. For God sakes Brian, just stand on a corner with a sandwich board that reads: Need A Clown For Your Next Party? You should be embarrassed by this attempt to extort money from fellow bigots who you're trying to convince that you'll have some success at turning this around (but even most of your fellow haters are onto you. And quite honestly, despise you because you failed.)

    Times have changed, Brian. The tide has turned. Progress always wins out over regression. You and Maggie need to pack up your awnings and take your sorry, sad, selves back to whatever rock you crawled out from under and as a favor to all Americans who believe that this country stands in equality and liberty for all, disappear from public view. NOM is over, you're over, bigotry and hatred never win in the end. And this is the end in New York.

    Oh, I hear the Wal-Mart in Uganda is hiring. Considering what you believe in, you and your family should be quite comfortable there.

    Posted by: Bart | Jun 29, 2011 12:13:06 PM


  11. Go ahead and waste your time and money with your "four year plan" in NY. Couldn't think of a better strategy for us.

    However, we do have our work cut out for us defending marriage in Iowa (and defeating Minnesota's ban in 2012). And if we try again in Maine (or California) or a positive vote in Maryland leads to a referendum, we will have a lot on our plate in 2012.

    Posted by: Jollysocks | Jun 29, 2011 12:23:12 PM


  12. Brown knows fully well his "plan" will never work. He's just trying to milk the cash cow for four more years, and no, I'm not referring to Maggie.

    Posted by: Sue | Jun 29, 2011 12:35:37 PM


  13. Actually, given the Prop 8 ruling on the west coast and marriage in NY and MA, their best plan would be to get the FMA passed. If the ninth court rules in favor of marriage, we'd get it on the entire west coast. It would also be a constitutional right, so the amendment process would be the only way to reverse it.

    Posted by: anon | Jun 29, 2011 12:40:05 PM


  14. I didn't think they'd win in California until they did. Prejudice is an easy fear to tweak by antigay hate groups. Don't underestimate the power of prejudice, especially when they fill the airwaves with fear about people's children.

    Posted by: Miche Rutledge | Jun 29, 2011 1:42:11 PM


  15. do you want to know why gallagher and brown are fighting so hard? if they lose their jobs and need food stamps do think they would be able to eat the way they do? maybe the easiest way to get rid of these two is to give them a life' supply of extra large happy meals.

    Posted by: walter | Jun 29, 2011 1:45:15 PM


  16. @Anon: If the 9th Circuit ruled in our favor, it wouldn't mean anything until the SCOTUS chimed in, and they would certainly chime in.

    Posted by: Bruno | Jun 29, 2011 1:55:53 PM


  17. I am so happy that the New York State Constitution does not provide for ballot initiatives. That direct democracy thing you've got out West is starting to look more and more like direct anarchy. I'll take the elected thieves over the ignorant masses any day.

    Posted by: Chris | Jun 29, 2011 2:13:39 PM


  18. Democrats have controlled the NY Assembly for 36 years in a row. NOM is really delusional if they think they can elect a majority Republican assembly in NY.

    Plus by 2015.. I think we would win a popular vote anyways. You do realize that we only need 3% of voters in Maine and California to change their minds. And 2015 is 6-7 years after those votes.

    I know people are cynical.. but really, the long term trend is at least 1% a year and lately it's been more like 3% a year.

    Posted by: Matt N | Jun 29, 2011 2:21:01 PM


  19. I'm not suggesting that Brown and Gallagher don't have the blood of gay teenagers on their hands, or that they haven't done and won't continue to do real harm, but the truth is that these two are increasingly apparent as pathetic losers for whom Mormon money and media attention provide a legitimacy that they would otherwise never, ever have.

    I mean, think about it this way: The grand and glorious institution of heterosexual marriage, that pinnacle of social structure, the beacon to light the way of human evolution got these two – these two! – as it's figureheads? We couldn't have written this script better ourselves.

    Posted by: rascal | Jun 29, 2011 3:23:36 PM


  20. SUMMARY: String as many people along as possible for as long as possible and collect as much money as possible along the way.

    Posted by: BobN | Jun 29, 2011 3:36:20 PM


  21. hopefully by 2012, NOM would have exploded...just like the 2 fat ass minions.

    Posted by: alan | Jun 29, 2011 3:52:09 PM


  22. Because, you know, their efforts in Iowa have been so successful. They failed to get that majority in a Republican wave there. Delay 2 years. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

    Oh, and please dump money into NYCs expensive media market. That will make bumping off your amendment in MN so much easier.

    Posted by: Eric | Jun 29, 2011 4:16:09 PM


  23. NOM has a four-year, 3-phase plan to reverse marriage equality in NY?

    Right, and I have a 2-day plan to turn iron into gold in my chemistry lab. LOL

    Sounds like pipe dreams. This is America. Like everyone else, the people at NOM are entitled to pipe dreams. They're even entitled to work on pipe dreams. Actually, I'd rather see them drain their moneys on reversing marriage, than working to prevent gay marriage elsewhere. This should weaken their opposition to gay marriage in other states.

    Posted by: Mark | Jun 29, 2011 4:58:26 PM


  24. I'm waiting for some kind of constitutional challenge. You know how these people work: If the constitution offends them, they go for a popular vote (often to change the constitution); of the popular vote goes against them, they fix the legislature to work their way; if the legislature goes against them, they pack the court with "activist judges" or work to elect a trojan horse governor.

    Posted by: Chuck Mielke | Jun 30, 2011 1:54:08 PM


  25. Face it, the Catholics truly believe teh gays are pedophiles, and they don't like the competition.

    Posted by: bob | Jun 30, 2011 4:20:44 PM


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