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  1. matt says

    This is what the hate speech of Bachmann, Perry and Santorum get you!!!! When public figures stand on platforms and tell the world that a segment of the population are less than the rest, you get violence!!! I hope Congresswoman Bachmann is proud of her hometown.

  2. Toto says

    Its just insane. I can only hope “god” allows for those responsible to answer for their crimes completely. More importantly I hope the kid finds a peace that that they never will attain.

  3. Peter says

    The politicians who refuse to fight bullying and hate have as much blood on their hands as the actual killers. Imagine what would happen if they became president?

  4. Hollywood, CA says

    My heart and prayers go out to the family members and friends. This is horrible, horrible, horrible. If you have any information on thsi crime please go to the police. This is 2011!

  5. says

    Andy thoughtfully gave Aksarbent credit for the bit about the Waterloo police claiming that the attack motivation was “unclear,” but I just realized that the link in my blog to that source was broken. It’s ok in the blog, now, I think, but if not, then here is the URL:

    http://www.ktiv.com/story/15304144/iowa-man-beaten-by-mob-dies-of-his-injuries

    (Obviously Waterloo isn’t as storybook a place as Michele made it out to be when she made her announcement.)

  6. Jay says

    ENZOINOMAHA wrote: “Obviously Waterloo isn’t as storybook a place as Michele made it out to be when she made her announcement.”

    Actually, I see this as her strong anti-Gay rhetoric whipping up her base in her home town. Who in the country ever heard of Waterloo unless you came from that area? But now, it made press, Bachmann claimed it, Bachmann announces bid for presidency while saying gays are “of satan” and her husband claiming gays are disordered…

    And then, a week later…Waterloo is on the map again. No, no…I’m sure it’s just coincidence. Nothing Bachmann has said is in anyway related to this attack.

  7. Rick says

    These things happen in New York and Los Angeles all the time, too (there has been a whole rash of attacks like this in LA just recently). Has nothing to do with geography or the pronouncements of conservative politicians (how many black people listen to Michelle Bachman?)

  8. gregory brown says

    Iowa in general and cities like Waterloo are stressed by unemployment and other economic and related social factors. The prevalence of fanatic religious nutters who got into such a frenzy last year over “liberal” judges is one thing, the barbarism of thugs is another. They do seem to be part of a self-feeding circuit, even when the conscious motives are unconnected. Marcellus probably risked being targeted without the vile spewings of Crazy Eyes, the Frother, the Mormon god-in-waiting.

  9. Francis says

    Let’s not overexaggerate, Rick. Horrible incidents such as this do not occur “all the time” in NYC or LA, especially when you take into consideration, things would have been handled before getting to this point in these cities. Extra police force out and about at night, streets are busier, etc.

    The other difference between more gay positive cities and a town like Waterloo is the immediate reaction taken after such incidents. The entire day Friday, Saturday, Sunday and not until Monday afternoon we’re finding out this is a hate incident? Not acceptable.

    Very tragic story. When you’re surrounded in a culture of hate, this usually is the sad result. Best wishes go out to the family who are going through something they shouldn’t. Hopefully the attackers are found and dealt with harshly. Just another example that we shouldn’t believe although we’ve made recent gains that homophobic hatred still doesn’t surround us.

  10. says

    It was all to obvious how the local media coverage side stepped the possible racial/homophobic motives in the senseless slaying of young person, that probably had a beautiful dream for his life ahead. I guess well just have to wait and see how this story unfolds as to the motives of perpetrators.

    If this turns out to be a racial or homophobic hate crime, it will be very inflammatory.

  11. says

    This is the current legacy of the horrorific positons of Bachmann, Santorum, Perry, Cain … Romney (these dreadful people who are clamoring to lead this nation) which are spewed daily and received with a shrug. We are a targeted group of people and the most vulnerable of us will be the earliest hit, like this young man. Anyione who is really familiar with the events in this country knows that this has nothing to do with geography.

  12. Paul says

    I think it’s perfectly relevant to ask Michelle Bachman point blank how she feels about young gay people being beaten to death in her hometown ? Does she believe gay people are not equal to straight people ? Does she think there is such a thing as a hate crime ? Does she believe you should simply ignore young people who are the victims of such crimes at school ? Does she think gay people are part of satan or barbarians ?

  13. Matt says

    For those of you criticizing Iowa’s intolerance, were you not aware that we beat New York to legalizing same-sex marriage?

    There are intolerant people everywhere, and I have no doubt that the Waterloo police will work their hardest to make sure the murderers are caught.

  14. says

    To “Say What” : I think your comment is bullying. You don’t state a poition but you attack someone who comments. I don’t think that’s acceptable. Please explain your positon and why you disliked the comment.

  15. Shannon says

    THIS BS JUST BREAKS MY HEART!!!! I feel so sad for the family and friends of this man! You have to be conscious of your surrounding people!!! Take a cab..drive…do not walk out late at night….protect your life! As for the killers…you WILL be in a cell with a very large man……. HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL….

  16. Michael Singh says

    RIP Marcellus Andrews.

    May your killers come to justice.

    May the church that you came does what they can to ensure that this does not happen again.

    You have a beautiful face.

    And plus even at the age of 19 you knew how to help others.

    You will be missed.

    (Sorry ladies & gents there was a facebook memorial page but I am not facebook so I had to leave it here)

  17. Schmidty says

    That this would happen anywhere is awful. I grew up in Illinois, have a ton of family in rural Iowa and spent a lot of time there, and now I live in Brooklyn. I’ve been more harassed for being gay in NYC than I ever was in the midwest. Let’s not make Iowa and perceived local social politics scapegoats for a crime that is still being investigated. Real people committed this crime, not some abstraction of conservative politicians’ affect on their alleged constituency.

  18. walter says

    if bachmann and john wayne gacy where both born in waterloo, what does that tell you about the town. are these best examples of thre people of waterloo. to remember michelle what waterlo did to napoleon. and michelle idon’t mean a creme puff pastry.

  19. queenrosered says

    Why doesn’t Bachmann just come out of HER closet and wear that white hood?? This young man’s blood is on HER hands and those of all the hypocrites that tout “family values” then teach the children to HATE! WWJD? I know what He wouldn’t do!!
    Why do good people like JFK and RFK get assassinated and morons like her, preaching hate and bigotry, keep right on? I am incensed. My heart goes out to this young man’s family and friends. :(

  20. says

    It is the laws of each state, and how these murderers and haters are punished makes me determin which states I will visit and spend my money. I want to see equality. I swear if I am attacked I will be defending my life. I won’t be the one dying in a pool of blood. ANY attack will be seen as a threat to my life. Get angry, don’t get scared.

  21. X says

    Bachmann may not have caused this, but she sure could try to *stop* garbage like this from happening in her state. Where is she on protecting her constituents?

  22. I'm Layla Miller I Know Stuff says

    Pathologicals and Prejudice

    In The Anatomy of Prejudices Elizabeth Young-Bruehl looks at such “primary prejudices” as sexism, racism, anti-Semitism and homophobia. She argues that they fall into one or another combination of categories: obsessional, hysterical, or narcissistic.

    Obsessional (Paranoid) prejudice, by her definition, sees its objects as omnipresent conspirators or enemies set on one’s destruction, who therefore must be eliminated.

    Hysterical (Histrionic) prejudice interprets the hated individuals as “other, as inferior, and as sexually threatening”. Racism is the best example of hysterical prejudice.

    Narcissistic prejudice “cannot tolerate the idea that there exist people who are not like them”. She argues that homophobia alone fits all these categories, and this might help account for its persistence and prevalence.
    –Vannessa Baird, The No-Nonsense Guide to Sexual Diversity, pg 72

    The folk wisdom is that the most homophobic people are those who are repressing their own latent homosexuality. Certainly there is anecdotal evidence to support this. Homophobia does tend to occur most strongly in tight-knit macho units of men where homoeroticism is very much in the air, but homosexuality is strictly forbidden. These men need to deny any sexual component to their bonding and can increase their solidarity by turning violently on “fags” or “queers” who are defined as completely alien. This is a phenomenon found amongst teenage gangs, police and soldiers.
    –Vannessa Baird, The No-Nonsense Guide to Sexual Diversity, pg 72

  23. says

    It’s suppose to get better… but there will always be hate mongers due to their stupidity
    and upbringing. How many times does this happen that we do not hear about,or does not get reported the fact that it is a hate crime. The blacks and their friends fought back with the campaign… “THERE WAS A LYNCHING TODAY”. Thanks Andy, for bringing this hate crime to our attention.

  24. Rocky says

    @MATT

    That is irrelevant and has nothing to do with the case at hand.And it certainly doesnt excuse the anti-gay sentiment coming from the midwestern white trash in Iowa. I wouldnt have given 2 shits if you got marriage equality 20 yrs ago.

  25. Francis says

    And no-one is saying that hate crimes and harassment does not exist in NYC, in SF, in Seattle. It does. Bigger cities means more people, means more possibilities for haters.

    The difference between these cities and a city like Waterloo is the REACTION. We found out 3 1/2 days after this attack there was a hate crime angle, the police seemingly had no clue. The media in the city either intentionally withheld or were completely oblivious to this situation until Monday afternoon. That wouldn’t fly in a city like NYC or San Francisco, which is the difference in how gay people (and black people too) are treated by the city at large. It’s just a real tragedy and hopefully this young man’s death isn’t totally in vain and something comes out of this horrific incident.

  26. robert in nyc says

    Bachmann and her rabid radical gang of right wing fundamentatlists are nothing more than terrorists and should be arrested, prosecuted and thrown in jail for incitement to kill gays as a result of their antigay speech. Is it no wonder Iowa has the highest rate of bullying? The fact that they target and threaten politicans who oppose their views is tantamount to terrorism and threatening a politician is a felony under the law.

  27. John says

    I view it as Sarah Palin’s crosshairs all over again. She claimed that her crosshairs on the map had nothing to do with Gabby Giffords’ shooting. Wrong. Hate begets hate. Michelle Bachman’s vitriol feeds hate – it didn’t necessarily cause this, but it likely contributed.

  28. Rick says

    @Francis Right. The reason they are recognized as hate crimes right away in New York or LA is because there are so many of them. Did it ever occur to you that they may not have recognized it as such in Iowa because such incidents are so rare there?

    When I got malaria in Asia a couple of decades ago, a good Indonesian doctor recognized the symptoms right away, whereas an American doctor would probably have been totally baffled had he not known I had been traveling in the tropics. Why? Not because the Indonesian doc was better than the American doc, but simply because he had seen hundreds of cases of malaria in his career, while the typical American doctor has seen none.

    You people who are trying to make political hay out of this are the disgusting ones. The kind of thug who does this sort of thing does not pay any attention to politicians, regardless of where they live, so stop trying to take advantage of a tragic situation to promote a political agenda.

    Jeez!

    Just further confirmation that the Far Left is as out of touch with reality and as disgusting in their motives as the Far Right is–between the two, this country is in real trouble.

  29. ratbastard says

    *sigh*…
    He was probably killed by african-american youth, who obviously knew him. They probably don’t even know who Bachman is…the primary culprit is the obscenely pathological nihilistic and violent sub ‘culture’ they were raised in, live in, and celebrate.

  30. David says

    Robert in NYC– Where did you get the “fact” that Iowa has the highest bullying rate? Because the sources and surveys I’ve looked at put Iowa in at 45 with West Virginia and S. Dakota at 1 and 2.

  31. Frank says

    Ratbastard, can we please cut the crap. Enough with the sweeping generalizations about black people. Please. Why don’t you google Michael Sandy. He was a black gay man lured online into an Italian-American neighborhood so he could be robbed only to end up hit by a car and killed after being chased into the street by a gang of youth. Is it safe to attribute this incident to the obscenely pathological nihilistic and violent sub ‘culture’ of Italian youth? Or can we just chalk it up to the fact that some people carry out criminal homophobic acts regardless of the color of their skin?

  32. Ladislav says

    Hey Matt. Iowa was forced by your supreme court to legalize gay Marraige. The people of New York through their legislature made it happen. That would never happen in Iowa. Never.

  33. Greg says

    Here we go again. And I’d hope this young man’s life and tragic death might spur us all to do the following, but I still doubt it.

    LEARN SELF-DEFENSE TECHNIQUES INCLUDING CLOSE-QUARTERS DEFENSE.

    KNOW YOUR STATE’S CONCEAL & CARRY LAWS, AND IF POSSIBLE, PURCHASE A HANDGUN AND BE TRAINED TO USE IT FOR SELF-DEFENSE. CARRY IT AND DON’T BE AFRAID TO USE IT IF YOU ARE BEING ATTACKED.

    DEFEND YOURSELVES AND YOUR LOVED ONES BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.

  34. just_a_guy says

    RIP Marcellus Andrews.

    More blood on Michelle Bachman’s hands.

    Fight back, kids, sorry. The politicians aren’t standing up for you. Ya gotta do it yourself. Enough is enough already. Watch out for and protect yourselves.

    Bachman should be ashamed of her role here. But she considers us subhuman unless we deny our very cores and marry a woman like her husband did. So she probably blames Marcusellus Andrews for his own death somehow.

    The press needs to force the gay-hate line of questioning repeatedly on Bachman and never let up. Ever.

    With Faux Noise so entrenched, at least Karma will get her. Bachman shouldn’t be sleeping well over this. It’s not right.

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