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Marcus Bachmann Lies About Ex-Gay Clinics, 'Barbarian' Comment (Video)

BlumenfeldBachmann Openly gay presidential candidate Fred Karger wasn't part of the Ames Straw Poll yesterday, but he was in Iowa, where he and Iowa State University Professor Warren Blumenfeld ran into Marcus Bachmann.

Blumenfeld and Bachmann got into quite the heated debate about how Bachmann's wife, presidential candidate Michele Bachmann, twists religion to attack gay people and how Bachmann himself runs a clinic that tries to "cure" gay people.

Despite all evidence to the contrary, Mr. Bachmann insists, "I do not use reparative therapy, none of our clinic therapists do. What we do is we counsel; we talk to [patients] about whatever they want to talk about."

He goes on, "There is not anything that comes close to reparative therapy."

Bachmann also ignores audio evidence when he insists he has never called gay people "barbarians:" "I have never called the homopsexual community barbarians, that's a myth. And when it comes to who I am, I have a never rejected a person who is gay; they can decide for themselves what they want and who they are."

The discussion occasionally gets drowned out by an announcer in the background, but you can catch the meat of Blumenfeld and Bachmann's discussion, taped by Karger, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Marcus uses the classic technique of a closet queen to refer to the glbt community as some very distant and alien people: "homosexual com-mun-it-ty" and "I have never turned away a gay". This is almost identical phraseology to what Larry Craig used in order to create a facade that gays are something very foreign, strange, and unfamiliar to him.

    Posted by: Curtis | Aug 14, 2011 10:22:57 AM

  2. She's prettier but his face is so much more feminine. I mean, seriously: He's like one lipstick swipe away from drag host Saturday night.

    Posted by: rascal | Aug 14, 2011 10:49:54 AM

  3. I guess he's never been the RECIPIENT of conversion therapy either...

    Posted by: r | Aug 14, 2011 11:02:15 AM

  4. He's flat out lying about conversion therapy but he *might* be technically accurate about the "barbarians" comment. Based on what I've read he frequently refers to children as barbarians, not gay people. The question he was answering about gay children so he brought out his stock "children are barbarians that need to tamed" answer.

    But no matter what, both he and his crazy wife are dangerous ideologues who need to be kept as far away from the White House as possible.

    Posted by: Codswallop | Aug 14, 2011 11:15:35 AM

  5. He's not "technically accurate." He called us barbarians.


    And his "clinic" uses "reparatiev therapy"


    He's a lying sack of horse excrement.


    And now we've got the picture we've all been waiting for --

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Aug 14, 2011 11:21:30 AM

  6. Marcus has a serious case of Liberace-face.
    And there's no cure for it, either.

    Posted by: Hunter | Aug 14, 2011 11:22:09 AM

  7. Lies, lies, lies. One big lie.

    Posted by: Matt26 | Aug 14, 2011 11:28:36 AM

  8. Seriously, who knows what Missy Marcus was talking about when he went on about "barbarians" -- and are we really going to debate the meaning of the ravings of a lunatic? He and his insane fake-wife have got rich from trying to destroy LGBT Americans. I couldn't care less to whom he exactly directed a particular crazy comment, he's still what he is and does what he does.

    Got to love the Republicans. When you present them with video evidence, they just say you're wrong. In the same scenario, Democrats quit. And there you have one reason why we are where we are.

    Posted by: ohplease | Aug 14, 2011 11:36:41 AM

  9. Regardless of the lies he continues to spread, the blood is on his and his wife's hands.
    We all know what their views are.
    We all know that they've gone to countless religious conventions where "ex-gay" was the centerpoint.
    Based on what we've heard him say, and especially what we've heard his wife say about how people need to know the "truth" about homosexuality--how it's "bondage" and blah blah blah--it's so obvious that he runs a clinic in which reparative therapy takes place.
    Call it whatever you want. Counseling is very much a form of reparative therapy, and I've witnessed it myself.
    It does just as much damage as any other variant of the evil practice.

    Posted by: Paul | Aug 14, 2011 12:03:20 PM

  10. Does anyone have a transcript of this interview? It was too difficult trying to understand what the conversation was with all the loud speaker calls for people to vote for Michelle Bachman.

    Posted by: john patrick | Aug 14, 2011 12:20:57 PM

  11. OK, that this is the one photos where Miss Marcus look SO MUCH gayer than most of my gay friends and people I know.

    As the saying goes, DENIAL is not just a river in Egypt!

    Posted by: FunMe | Aug 14, 2011 12:21:27 PM

  12. it didn't work for marcus so why inflict it on anyone else. he is going be her biggest problem. every time he opens his mouth he puts his foot or something else in it.

    Posted by: walter | Aug 14, 2011 12:21:55 PM

  13. God help me, I almost feel bad for the guy. What a mess.

    Posted by: Yeek | Aug 14, 2011 12:24:04 PM

  14. Oh, and did I mention that Marcus is a BIG fat liar?

    Posted by: FunMe | Aug 14, 2011 12:24:54 PM

  15. All this gay furor, Bachman, Pawlenty, now Hinkle is too pathetic to witness anymore. Their all going down the tube, or soon will be, sad stories indeed of self immolation.

    Posted by: uffda | Aug 14, 2011 12:56:07 PM

  16. Just listened again to the "barbarians" tape and there's no doubt he was referring to gays as "barbarians who need to be disciplined, they need to be educated."He said the tape was doctored - he's lying. When the Christofascists think they are speaking within their own bubble and that only like-minded people are listening, they speak their truth. When they are called on the carpet about it, they whitewash it, say it was out of context, or flat out deny it.

    "If Jesus Christ came back and saw what's being done in his name, he'd never stop throwing up."
    - Max Von Sydow, "Hannah And Her Sisters," written by Woody Allen

    Posted by: Jim | Aug 14, 2011 1:39:24 PM

  17. Ok, does Ladybird know how to take a picture WITHOUT gay face?

    Actually, this picture here is pretty butch and manly compared to many of her other pictures

    Posted by: Chitoen Kev | Aug 14, 2011 5:32:42 PM

  18. Dammit, misspelled my own name, that has to be a first.

    Posted by: Chitown Kev | Aug 14, 2011 5:33:28 PM

  19. Believe me, his day will come if she receives the nomination. No reason to expose him now while she's not a serious threat. Same goes for Rick Perry. If either one of them are on the GOP ticket, then that closet will be blown open for voters to judge.

    Posted by: Jay | Aug 14, 2011 6:18:14 PM

  20. I'd seen so many clips of he and his wife running away from people, I have to give him credit for actually having a conversation with someone who is challenging him.

    Posted by: Dastius Krazitauc | Aug 14, 2011 6:37:21 PM

  21. Jay we need to start NOW to expose them for the FRAUD that both the beard Michelle and gay Perry are!

    They need to be stopped in their tracks.

    Posted by: FunMe | Aug 14, 2011 6:53:17 PM

  22. Exposing them now will only benefit Mitt Romney. That may or may not be a good thing depending on who you prefer.

    Posted by: Jay | Aug 14, 2011 7:08:50 PM

  23. Let's not mince too many words. HE'S GAY.

    Posted by: Frankie McCranky | Aug 14, 2011 7:09:04 PM

  24. Marcus Bachmann is putting the country on with these photo poses, right? In the picture above, he's not so much channeling Liberace as Shirley Temple. Please note the saccharine way in which he tilts his head to the side and the beauty queen simper instead of a normal smile. It seems like he's threatening to break into a chorus of "On the Good Ship Lollipop".

    Posted by: Artie Rimbaud | Aug 14, 2011 7:21:55 PM

  25. In a narrow historical sense where "reparative therapy" is defined as "showing pornographic images of both sexes, but giving the subject electric shocks with the same-sex images" they don't practice reparative therapy. That's because their practice involves daddy figures badgering/lecturing clients, not giving them electric shocks.

    In the sense that everyone understands "reparative therapy" as "therapy to change sexual orientation", they do practice it.

    Posted by: Karl | Aug 14, 2011 9:04:54 PM

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