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Herman Cain Says Being Gay is a Choice and Wants to See the Science That Proves Otherwise: VIDEO

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Herman Cain, frontrunner in many of the latest GOP 2012 straw polls, was asked by Joy Behar this morning how he could think being gay is a choice when so many people are vilified for it.

Said Cain: "You show me the science that says that it's not. Could be persuaded. Right now it's my opinion against the opinion of others who feel differently. That's just a difference of opinion."

Cain went on to add that he wouldn't allow his personal opinions to get in the way of running the country, and also repeated his intention to reinstate 'DADT'.

Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...

Think Progress LGBT adds: "The American Psychological Association, the world’s largest association of psychological professionals, describes sexual orientation as 'a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors.' There is considerable evidence to suggest that biology, 'including genetic or inborn hormonal factors,” plays a significant role in a person’s sexuality.'"

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  1. Seriously? Where's the science behind it? Well, at least that answers the question of just how far up his ass his head is.

    Posted by: LiamB | Oct 4, 2011 12:20:12 PM


  2. Perhaps he read the comments from the Thomas Jane story on Towleroad earlier.

    Posted by: Zell | Oct 4, 2011 12:25:12 PM


  3. Herman Cain can Kiss my Gay white ass.

    Posted by: Gay American | Oct 4, 2011 12:25:12 PM


  4. This is easy to refute (or refudiate at the GOP loves to say). Just ask the pizza man if he chose to be straight. If he says YES then have him admit that he tried and considered being gay. If he says NO then ask him how one can be born straight but not gay. He's then painted into a corner and goes home with his tail between his legs.

    Posted by: FernLaPlante | Oct 4, 2011 12:25:12 PM


  5. Kudos to Hasselback. She's really going into this issue now and she seems to understand quite a bit of the real scenario here.

    Posted by: Shello | Oct 4, 2011 12:25:18 PM


  6. Hmm, he wants to see science now. I thought he was just a religious wingnut who didn't believe those fantasies. Oh wait, that's exactly what he is.

    Funny how many homophobes jump from the Bible to science to justify their homophobia. It just highlights how far homophobes will go and that they will say anything, to validate to themselves and others, that being gay is wrong in their eyes, or a choice, or whatever else.

    What's most pathetic is that the science is out there and the facts are known, and if you present these facts to individuals like Mr. Cain, they'll reject them because it doesn't suit his belief system. You can't reason with people like this. Everything is my way or the highway with them.

    Posted by: Francis | Oct 4, 2011 12:27:30 PM


  7. Investigate !
    We gays know !
    Ask us !

    And does science prove his mad speculation ?
    But perhaps that does not bother him........he gets to make it up as he goes......just like all the evangelical creeps.
    Maybe he'll speek in tongues next.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Oct 4, 2011 12:28:15 PM


  8. All he's saying is that he is a homosexual man but he isn't brave enough to be who he truly is; so he hides his true sexual orientation from the world. That's his choice.

    Posted by: Lance | Oct 4, 2011 12:28:39 PM


  9. If only idiocy could be universally outlawed! This world would be a so much more hospitable place to live in.

    Posted by: Stuffed Animal | Oct 4, 2011 12:29:17 PM


  10. Being black is a choice. As we all know Michael Jackson chose to be white.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Oct 4, 2011 12:29:38 PM


  11. I wish someone had responded to him in a way that he might grasp, by asking him when he "chose" to be black.

    Posted by: Patrick | Oct 4, 2011 12:31:19 PM


  12. Yes, Mr. Cain, I chose to be gay even though I can't quite remember what year I made that decision. It was so long ago. Now, let me think, was it after or before I realized how vilified gay people are by the vast majority of those who chose to be straight?? I suppose along your line of thinking, however, bigotry and ignorance are qualities with which one is born, eh? So, yeah, when was it exactly you decided you'd be straight person, Mr. Cain, who happened to be born bigoted and ignorant?

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Oct 4, 2011 12:32:28 PM


  13. http://www.nytimes.com/1991/12/17/science/gay-men-in-twin-study.html

    Here is a study done in 1991, if people don't want to educate themselves that is not our problem. This is one of MANY studies done.

    Also, show me that heterosexuality is a choice, thank you!

    NEXT!

    Posted by: Jeff | Oct 4, 2011 12:38:23 PM


  14. This is good news for Democrats, at least on his gay views, because they can be unraveled so easily:
    HerMan: I believe that being gay is a choice
    Anyone: So you were gay then you chose to be straight.
    HerMan: No, I have always been straight.
    Anyone: Oh, so you didn't chose to be gay then straight? You were born straight?
    HerMan: Yes. Wait, I mean, I chose...
    Anyone: You can't have it both ways, unless you're bi-sexual. Are you Bi, Hermy?
    Muahahahahahah! Done. Next!

    Posted by: Hollywood, CA | Oct 4, 2011 12:40:51 PM


  15. @ Hollywood; thanks for that; really enjoyed it.

    Same thought here: When did you 'choose' to be straight?

    SRSLY...

    Isn't is funny that when it comes to Global Warming & Evolution, no science is good enough, but now we need science to disprove the obvious?!!

    This is what the GOP has to offer USA. Jeeesh.

    Posted by: Pete n SFO | Oct 4, 2011 12:52:51 PM


  16. the man is an idiot. everyone is entitled to their own opinions, everyone is not entitled to their own FACTS.

    the man doesn't get it. and he never will.. \\\ladies and gentlemen, then mindset of a republican.

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Oct 4, 2011 1:04:11 PM


  17. The problem with attempting to present scientific data and research studies to a Republican is that they do not draw a distinction between biased, flawed "research" done by their thinktanks and actual academic, scientific research conducted by experts at universities all across the world. In order to show Mr. Cain scientific evidence, I would first have to convince him that such things as "science" and "evidence" exist, being as he is a Republican, and they all slept through high school Earth Science and Biology. He's right about one thing; opinions are opinions, and one is oftentimes arguably as valid as any other. However, opinions are not hard evidence, and evidence exists (if he would bother to look for it or bother to acknowledge it) that sexuality is less a conscious choice and more a result of environmental and biological factors. Even if it WERE a choice, aren't right-wingers always on about "small government" and "personal responsibility" and "individual liberty"? Put your money where your mouth is: Even if one were to, flying in the face of all scientific evidence to the contrary, allow them the point that sexuality could be a matter of preference or choice, why the hell should any of them get to tell any of us that our choice is anything other than that: OURS? Even in a hypothetical world where sexuality is COMPLETELY and UNDENIABLY a matter of PERSONAL CHOICE, whose business is it to tell another person that their choice in regards to sexuality is then wrong? The government has no business attempting to regulate individual's personal lives.

    Posted by: Mark | Oct 4, 2011 1:14:01 PM


  18. This man does not even stand a chance of being the dog poop pick up guy at the White House.

    So why is he actually wasting his time......just for his 16 minutes of fame!

    The Republicans are a party of Neanderthals...so if you want these fools in 2013.....sit at home and do not vote for President Obama.

    The choice is yours'!

    Posted by: Brains | Oct 4, 2011 1:18:09 PM


  19. Herman Cain/Tracy Morgan 2012

    This primary campaign is like watching Archie Bunker run against George Jefferson for office.

    They can all kiss my gay white Jewish ass while I vote for Fred Karger.

    Posted by: Attmay | Oct 4, 2011 1:41:36 PM


  20. WHY don't people ever ask "When did you choose to be straight, tell us about that moment for you, and how did you decide gay was not for you?" SERIOUSLY it's the most obvious thing in the world.

    I called in to a local radio host who was ripping on Brokeback Mountain for the same thing, asked him that question, and stopped their broadcast in its tracks!

    Posted by: SeeingI | Oct 4, 2011 1:42:58 PM


  21. @ Mark - You kind of stole my comment! LOL
    Even if it were a choice, who cares? Because it is immoral? Guess what? I don't think so and I am entitled to my opinion, right? Does it really matter who I choose to love (or have sex with)? Actually, it's none of your business... and please don't whip out that tired old book of fables.

    Posted by: Married in MA | Oct 4, 2011 1:45:36 PM


  22. We should draw a distinction between asking people "Did you choose to be straight" and "could you choose to be gay" because the former is easily answered. They are not saying that everyone chooses their orientation, they are saying that everyone is born naturally straight, and some people choose a different path than is the natural path. So asking "did you choose to be straight" can be answered with "No, I'm naturally straight, and so are you. You have just at some point chosen to pervert the natural order of things." Mind you, I don't believe that for a second, of course, but we have to be prepared for it, and giving glib answers to republican challenges does more harm than good.

    Posted by: Zell | Oct 4, 2011 1:45:37 PM


  23. Willful ignorance is not only bliss, but the American Way®

    Posted by: David R. | Oct 4, 2011 1:47:38 PM


  24. Zell, you can only make a choice when both options are present. Phobes who claim that being gay is "a choice" aren't think about themselevs at all -- only us, "the Other."

    Turning the question back on them is only logical. If being gay is 'a choice" then they must have had that option at some point in time.

    And if their Bi they would quite naturally.

    But they don't want to so much as THINK of that possibility.

    They call being gay "a choice" because it makes it "Bad Behavior" that we should simply "stop."

    There's nothing glib about smacking down such crap.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Oct 4, 2011 1:56:10 PM


  25. But they would say that both options ARE present: either you can go with the natural order of things or you can pervert it. It's all in the way you phrase things.

    Posted by: Zell | Oct 4, 2011 2:10:01 PM


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