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NJ Teacher Under Investigation for Facebook Remarks Calling Homosexuality a 'Perverted' Sin That 'Breeds Like Cancer'

The Star Ledger reports that a parent in Union Township, New Jersey has called for a teacher's dismissal after the teacher, Viki Knox, posted remarks on her Facebook site attacking a school display recognizing Lesbian Gay Bisexual and Transgender History Month and calling homosexuality "perverted".

KnoxWrote Knox in some of her comments:

"Homosexuality is a perverted spirit that has existed from the beginning of creation. The word of God refers to it often. That's if you believe the Word to be truly God's intended blueprint for his people. I have friends and loved ones who are practicing/ living as homosexuals. Yes I love can care about them. We hug and exchange gifts. We have family dinners. But how they live and their actions, behaviors -CHOICES are against the nature and character of God! Do I tell me so? Yes, of course. Do I treat them bad? If course not! Jesus never did that to ANYONE he meant. He spoke to them of their situation and offered them life eternal. He didn't say it was okay but we've all sinned and come short if God's will for us daily. That's why we Christians true followers pray, repent, and spend time with Christ daily. The Word of God instructs us to die daily to our flesh-meaning our will. What we want; what feels good to us; what we like; what we can rationalize and justify. I do not pretend to know ALL things. Nor do I pretend not to have biases, failings and faults. But I know sin and it breeds like cancer!"

Read a PDF of the Facebook thread, AFTER THE JUMP...

The Star-Ledger reports:

"Hateful public comments from a teacher cannot be tolerated," wrote Paragano, also a former Union Township Municipal Court judge. "She has a right to say it. But she does not have a right to keep her job after saying it."

Union Chief School Administrator Patrick Martin said the district is investigating the incident.
Knox, 49, of Union Township, is also the faculty adviser to the high school’s student prayer group, The Seekers Fellowship, the local chapter of a nationwide organization.

Knox did not respond to requests for comment. But two other people who wrote comments on the thread said Paragano’s copy was authentic.

Read a PDF of the Facebook thread, AFTER THE JUMP...

The case bears a striking resemblance to that of Florida teacher Jerry Buell, who was suspended last month for anti-gay Facebook comments (and later teamed up with NOM). As they did for Buell, the ACLU is defending Knox, according to Gothamist:

Knox has yet to comment, but the American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey released a statement defending Knox’s First Amendment right to make the comments: "Although we do not agree with the sentiments expressed on Ms. Knox’s personal Facebook page, her comments are protected by the First Amendment," said representative Ed Barocas.

PDF via Garden State Equality.

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  1. Most teachers have to sign a "morality" clause when they are hired, which requires they behave a certain way at all times in public places where students might be encountered. This clause includes when they are off the clock. In other words, if a student might potentially see it, it better be in line with how they would be in front of the class. If the teacher is caught drinking or partying down by students, then they can get in trouble, or fired after signing the clause.

    One can argue whether such clauses are ethical, but if she did sign such a document, then she agreed to abide by it, not just when she feels like it.

    Posted by: LiamB | Oct 13, 2011 3:39:21 PM


  2. The warped thing is that if a teacher writes an anti-black piece as to calling them retarded or sub-human is automatically dimissed.So this sub-human and even a poor example of a sub-human can writes whatever she wants and get away with it just because it is anti-gay and that makes it ok.That is the double standard this country applies to eveerything.Sick.And probably this woman goes out and eats pork,ham,shrimps,lobster,clams,oysters,rabbit and other foods that are an abomination to God (Leviticus 11:1to47 and Deutoronimus 14:3to21)but that is ok because she knows the word of God.LOL.What a hypocrite.Ah,also,to all you christians,(and this applies to priests,pastors,ministers,etc..)Exodus 31:14&15,35:2)that work on the Lord's Day for pay are condemn to death.You can do work but not get paid for it.These are some of the things that christians ignore about the word of the Lord because they do not care for the word of the Lord.Hypocrites.LOL.

    Posted by: Oscar in Miami Beach | Oct 13, 2011 3:39:21 PM


  3. I see her photo. The odds are they will not fire her.

    Posted by: Shane | Oct 13, 2011 3:40:44 PM


  4. Yet another ignorant Christian that knows absolutely nothing about sexual orientation. I'm actually dumbfounded how she managed to qualify for a teaching position. Her posts look like they were written by a 5 year old.

    Posted by: David in Houston | Oct 13, 2011 3:41:39 PM


  5. Anyone who talks like that belongs in a mental institution and not a school. Certainly not as a teacher

    Posted by: Steve | Oct 13, 2011 3:42:22 PM


  6. When will people use common sense and simply not post these kinds of things on Facebook? Yes, she has the right to say what she did, but what she did say could have repercussions. How many times has a Facebook entry come back to bite a poster on their proverbial ass?! I frankly put nothing too personal on Facebook at all.

    Posted by: Married in MA | Oct 13, 2011 3:42:27 PM


  7. As usual, ACLU is confused as to what the First Amendment is about. Certainly, she has the right to spout off almost anything on Facebook. The Amendment does not, however, protect one from any and all consequences of one's words.

    Posted by: ynot | Oct 13, 2011 3:43:28 PM


  8. i'd have to rule against her dismissal due to her protected right to free speech. i'd advocate for her dismissal, however, based on the fact that she has considerable difficulty composing a coherent sentence.

    Posted by: alguien | Oct 13, 2011 3:46:33 PM


  9. oh, and another thing, all her dismissal would result in is one more martyr for the religious right.

    Posted by: alguien | Oct 13, 2011 3:47:34 PM


  10. "This is really, really wrong and the ACLU is right. This woman's schtick about homosexuality is really, really sick but she has the right to put it on her FB without fear of retaliation - unless she were to advocate violence against gay people."

    Not necessarily. She does not own her facebook page. It is a service provided. It is a private forum and as such, is not a protected mechanism when it comes to the freedom of speech.

    Secondly, freedom of speech guarantees that the government will not infringe on your ability to speak on anything in the public square save for when your safety or the safety of others needs protecting.

    Freedom of speech does not and cannot protect one from social consequence. If, for example, you say something that reflects poorly on you and your employer, your employer has every right to terminate your position while citing poor judgment.

    I would fire her simply because her actions introduced a potential for her classroom to be a more hostile/less comfortable place for any present or future LGBT student.

    Posted by: RJ | Oct 13, 2011 4:06:55 PM


  11. "oh, and another thing, all her dismissal would result in is one more martyr for the religious right."

    Then, clearly, they should all be allowed to do whatever the hell they want to whoever the hell they want to do it to.

    That's hardly "all" her dismissal would result in. The first thing it would result in is getting a moron out of a teaching position. Who cares what other morons make of it?

    Posted by: ohplease | Oct 13, 2011 4:11:59 PM


  12. She has the free speech right to post whatever she wants on Facebook, or to shout it from the street corner if she likes. But with free speech there can be consequences. Facebook is not private; it is public. She was making a statement on a public forum that creates a potentially hostile environment for a group of her students and for some of her colleagues. Creating a hostile environment in your classroom is not protected. A big difference.

    The school is right to investigate this and to question the way she has represented them (which, like it or not, is what you do on Facebook--you represent your professional and your private self) and to then determine whether she deserves to keep her job. I would hope not.

    When are people going to realize that social media is just that: social. It is not a private space for private bigotry; it is your public face, and if that face is ugly, people will notice and react, as they should.

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 13, 2011 4:13:00 PM


  13. those must be fun dinners she goes to with all those gays she's friends with...

    sparkling, witty conversation.

    I'll bet she's a riot.

    Posted by: doug | Oct 13, 2011 4:29:18 PM


  14. Knox is one of a large group of individuals whose ability to think clearly and logically based on objective evidence has been compromised by devotion to scripture and faith-based thinking. This would not be much of a problem for a teacher of Art, music, or related discipline; it would be a huge difficulty for a teacher of science, history, or mathematics, where students must look past their personal beliefs.

    It may be that the ACLU was called in on Ms Knox's behalf and they are simply doing what the do: defending the Constitution. Their involvement is a minor aspect of this story.

    Posted by: Chuck Mielke | Oct 13, 2011 4:36:35 PM


  15. Yesterday, we were remembering Frank Kameny and realizing just how important freedom of speech is. Without it, he would never have been heard and we would not be free.

    Today, we contradict ourselves.

    Sigh.

    That said, I have to note that Frank lost more than one job because of his speech...

    Posted by: BobN | Oct 13, 2011 4:48:00 PM


  16. There is a difference between writing comments on a Facebook wall (and representing oneself) and speaking comments aloud in front of students (representing the school and/or educational system). If she only wrote those comments, she should keep her job and -- in my opinion -- avoid disciplinary action. It's her wall, it's her thoughts, it's her attitudes, ignorant as they may be. If she spoke those words to a class or at a school function, she should lose her job.

    Posted by: As long as it's on Facebook | Oct 13, 2011 5:06:06 PM


  17. Most school systems are a strick of what you can put on facebook like if your student sees it etc. and some places will not hire you if you put some things on there.

    Posted by: Drew | Oct 13, 2011 6:24:18 PM


  18. Dear Ms Knox,
    I dont believe in your god, but thanks for the prayers.
    Love,
    Chicklets

    Posted by: Chicklets | Oct 13, 2011 6:45:40 PM


  19. Homophobic illiterate black lady. Well, color me stunned.

    Posted by: Billy | Oct 13, 2011 9:56:14 PM


  20. What hate? She is entitled to her opinion outside of the classroom.

    I disagree whole-heartedly with her idiocy but why should voicing one's opinion outside of the workplace endanger their job?

    Posted by: Bob | Oct 13, 2011 10:14:09 PM


  21. BOY Andy, I have to give it to you.

    You truly know how to pull the queens out that never liked Blacks and still don't and to Miss Gay American you some of the other queens are a HOOT!

    Girls cannot wait for a post as such to be posted so you can go on and on about how YOU faught for my rights! YES SO many of you just risked your life so I could be free. but yet can't stand African Americans.

    A bunch a deluded queens! Carry on with your vitriol. once again this is the reason African American Gays stay AWAY from this site. No one is stupid we are as divided as the Dems and The Repubs!..OH WELL! Whatever

    As for the teacher she is a TRUE IDIOT! But she doesn't speak for the entire race but no one could tell you girls that!

    Posted by: CHRIS DACHOCOLATEBEARCUB | Oct 14, 2011 1:40:50 AM


  22. "I disagree whole-heartedly with her idiocy but why should voicing one's opinion outside of the workplace endanger their job?"

    Because, if like most teachers she signed a morality clause when hired, she is bound by contract to act in public as if she were representing the school. In the privacy of her own home, or events where there is no chance of encountering those associated with the school (be they parents or students), she can do or say whatever she wants. But if she is speaking on a public forum, or in a public place, she must act accordingly.

    In other words, if she wouldn't be able to say or do it in class, she risks losing her job. This is something she herself would have signed. If however, the school didn't make her sign that, they can't do anything.

    Posted by: LiamB | Oct 14, 2011 8:20:26 AM


  23. CHRIS DACHOCOLATEBEARCUB, you understand that your own post marks you a hypocrite, right?

    Posted by: LiamB | Oct 14, 2011 8:27:30 AM


  24. I just read what this "teacher" wrote. Putting aside the homophobic aspect, you've got to ask the question, how did somebody with such attrocious writing and grammar skills ever get a job as an educator? It would almost be funny if it weren't so sad.

    Posted by: Brendan | Oct 14, 2011 12:38:35 PM


  25. CLIT: Closet Lesbian Inculcating Truculence

    Posted by: tweedle | Oct 14, 2011 3:30:29 PM


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