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MSNBC Rejects Christian Group's Ad Questioning Network's Relationship with Hate Group Leader Tony Perkins: VIDEO

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Faithful America, a group of Christian leaders who recently delivered 20,000 petitions to MSNBC asking it to end their relationship with Tony Perkins, leader of the hate group Family Research Council, submitted an ad to the network questioning its relationship with Perkins.

MSNBC rejected the ad, but you can watch it, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. Great ad, and straight to the point. The problem is, obviously, that people such as Tony Perkins have been allowed to run behind "God" and "the Bible says ______" to justify their bigotry and continue to receive a public voice they do not deserve. As long as our society sees things like marriage equality and a woman's right to choose as moral issues and legitimate debates, people like Tony Perkins will continue getting air time on network news channels as people in opposition to equality. Sad, but true. LGBTQ rights, abortion, these issues simply aren't truly accepted enough yet for people like Tony Perkins to be irrelevant. And if MSNBC doesn't allow dissenters to equality on air they'll be labeled "biased" and be criticized for "limiting free speech".

    Not to excuse MSNBC, CNN, Fox and all of these networks that allow open bigots on air. It's repulsive, irresponsible and unacceptable. But it's our society whose to blame, and the reality American society is BACKWARDS socially. These networks know that talking about marriage equality creates headlines and make people talk. They know it brings them attention to allow outspoken idiots on air. That's why they keep doing it.

    Posted by: Francis | Mar 8, 2012 10:25:54 AM


  2. Tony Perkins is as vile as is his hate organization. That being said, it's not as if MSNBC is not the most liberal of the big 3 news networks. Overall MSNBC is extremely supportive of the gay community.

    Faithful America is an amazing group that does try to stamp out hate and spread the true word of the religious faith. When they say "hosted", however, they are really trying to remove the negative impact the religious zealots of the Christian right are having against their faiths. This ad has less regard for the gay community and more for their own cause.

    More often than not, when MSNBC "hosts" Perkins, he's ripped to shreds by their liberal pundits. His message of hate appearing on their news network usually helps to diminish his cause and strengthen ours.

    Posted by: DRG | Mar 8, 2012 10:27:12 AM


  3. Is there any question as to why MSNBC would choose not to run this?

    Posted by: Dave | Mar 8, 2012 10:27:27 AM


  4. Obviously MSNBC rejected it. They'd be nuts to air it. This is the last kind of publicity MSNBC (or any other corporate entity) needs. The will hardly put pressure on themselves by broadcasting it. The people behind the ad should have had sense enough to realize that and placed it on CNN, Current and any other channel that would carry it. Once the public pressure starts, I'm guessing MSNBC will drop Perkins and drop him fast.

    Posted by: jomicur | Mar 8, 2012 10:28:38 AM


  5. Perhaps OTHER networks would air this? Anyway, I'm sure Miss Tonette is delighted. She loves publicity ("la publicite") more than anything. It thrills her and makes her tingle.

    Posted by: Abel | Mar 8, 2012 10:28:55 AM


  6. Sounds like a perfect opportunity to organize a vocal boycott of MSNBC. Just provide a lot of hot guys in the promos, numerous opportunities for A List gays to soapbox on the issue, and endless black tie fundraisers for HRC and GLAAD.

    Posted by: Mark | Mar 8, 2012 10:30:48 AM


  7. Stopped watching MSNBC when Olbermann left and haven't been back since. They finally just dumped Pat Buchanan after many years as a "guest" and a fixture on Morning Joe. MSNBC wants to be all things to all people and that seldom works out well.

    Posted by: Bob R | Mar 8, 2012 10:56:06 AM


  8. I think the real reason the Christian leaders want Tony Perkins off the air is because he gives Christianity a bad rep...as they noted "he doesn't speak for their faith". However, my question would be, what about the leaders of the Catholic Church that have appeared on MSNBC, FOX, CNN, etc, more times that Perkins, who are spewing the same hatred and bigotry (though not labled as a HATE group)??? Why aren't they targeted too?

    Posted by: CB | Mar 8, 2012 10:59:24 AM


  9. Guess what, folks?

    NPR also uses this guy for commentary.

    Most recently as a spokesperson for Conservative Religious folks during this prolonged GOP Primary season.

    Somebody must know somebody that can explain to the folks at NPR what a SPLC Hate Group is.

    Posted by: Pete n SFO | Mar 8, 2012 11:14:23 AM


  10. I think MSNBC SHOULD keep inviting Tony Perkins. He gets destroyed at least half the time he goes on MSNBC. His invitation presents an opportunity to publicly counter right wing hysteria. And its not like the Family Research Council is some underground politically ignorable group. That group plays a significant role in the republican party. So MSNBC cannot be accused of inviting unrepresentative people of conservative ideology just to make conservatives look bad. The FRC does make conservatives look bad, but that is who they are.

    Faithful America would be more effective in directing their ad and criticism at the republican party and conservative networks which legitimize the FRC. Don't be mad at liberal networks who invite legitimate factions of the republican party for discussion, be mad at the republican party for legitimizing and incorporating factions which are documented as hate groups.

    Posted by: anony6 | Mar 8, 2012 11:26:13 AM


  11. I've signed petitions about this and, for all the good it will do (which I suspect is none), sent the following email to MSNBC last night.

    Does MSNBC even understand the meaning of the term "Hate Group"?

    Apparently not, or you wouldn't keep inviting Tony Perkins of the "Family Research Council" on time after after time even though the FRC has LEGITIMATELY been designated a Hate Group by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

    Then let me explain WHY the FRC is a "Hate Group" as opposed to some other designation such as dissenters, religious objectors, etc. Please pass this explanation along to Chris Matthews, since he apparently believes that because someone is well-dressed, telegenic, and speaks clearly, as Mr Perkins does, that means they can't POSSIBLY be a member of a Hate Group!

    Hate Groups continue to use statistics and studies LONG after they have been debunked and disproven, exposed as ideologically based lies. Hate groups only cite "research" that is NOT peer-reviewed except in the hot-house atmosphere of their own "think tanks," written by people who have NO credentials in the disciplines the so-called study covers, such as sociology, mental health, adoption, etc. Hate Groups determine the RESULT of the study before it's ever conducted.

    In short, Hate Groups LIE, deliberately and often, and they NEVER change their minds or alter their rhetoric no matter what new information comes to light. As the FRC does, many Hate Groups solicit donations by demonizing their target group, in this case gays and lesbians, and use war and military flavored metaphors and rhetoric to create FEAR in their audience to extort larger donations. This includes Hate Group leaders like Tony Perkins who own nice suits to wear on TV. He may be smart enough to clean up his act a little when he's on MSNBC but when he's NOT selling himself as a regular guy on your network he employs words and rhetoric about gay and lesbian Americans that, if he were talking about a racial or religious group, would sound just like someone from the KKK or the American Nazi Party.

    Why does MSNBC repeatedly invite someone like that onto their programs?! He isn't a "reasonable voice" on ANY issues facing America, he is an intractable religious ideologue, the leader of a HATE GROUP!

    And rest assured I WILL BE ASKING MSNBC's ADVERTISERS THESE SAME QUESTIONS, why they use their advertising dollars to support a network that legitimizes Hate Groups like the FRC by giving them a platform.

    With every bit as much respect as you show your viewers by allowing people like Tony Perkins on your shows,

    ***** *******

    Posted by: Caliban | Mar 8, 2012 11:29:15 AM


  12. I just wish that NPR would stop using him. There is no way I will contribute to any of their membership drives until they stop placating the religious right.

    Posted by: Patrick ONeill | Mar 8, 2012 11:40:27 AM


  13. Take out the word "homosexual" wherever Tony Perkins speaks and insert ANY other group in its place... black, jew, women, elderly, asian, etc... and he would NOT be allowed on any network. In fact, advertisers would boycott any network where he was allowed. This is what signifies that this is a civil rights issue.

    Posted by: Jim | Mar 8, 2012 11:55:09 AM


  14. Do they pay Tony Perkins a stipend or some sort of remuneration?

    Posted by: Elliot | Mar 8, 2012 12:17:25 PM


  15. @ Caliban, Since when are news and media networks only supposed to quote, listen, source, guest or host "reasonable", "educated", or "credentialed" people on/in there printed, broadcasted, or pundited news cycles?

    I thought the news media was supposed to interview and source all voices of the issue, just making sure they scrutinize each in a professional and balanced way. Like it or not, the FRC is a voice on gay issues. One heavily backed but he GOP. It is the News Networks jobs to interview them and make sure to point out or question them on all the issues you mentioned above. That is whole idea of News coverage and freedom of press. To censor your news coverage is exactly what we do not want news networks to do. Hello?!?

    MSNBC more often than not really puts Perkins and the FRC under the hot lamp and makes them look like fools. Job well done MSNBC. Job well done NPR. Job well done CNN. Sorry FOX, you fail again.

    Posted by: DRG | Mar 8, 2012 2:46:59 PM


  16. DRG, so are you saying that when an issue of race or racism comes up that networks should invite David Duke or someone from the KKK on to offer "the other side"? When the topic is Jews or Israel should the American Nazi Party expect a call to grab their copy of "The Protocols Of The Elders of Zion" and high-tail it to the MSNBC studio?

    Because those groups ARE the equivalent of the FRC and Tony Perkins when it comes to gay rights. He isn't a "voice of reason" or compromise. He isn't a legitimate counterpoint to anything, he's just a Religious Right Hate Group leader, a professional liar and charlatan who extorts money from his followers with fear tactics and he should be treated as EXACTLY that and nothing more. His core message is no different than Fred Phelps, he's just a better dressed and more media-savvy version of it and by inviting him on, MSNBC just lends credibility to him and his group.

    If MSNBC wants to invite him on and identify him as a professional hate monger, which is what he is, and then have him defend his views that's one thing. But that isn't what they do. They invite him on as if his is just another reasonable mainstream opinion when that couldn't be further from the truth. He's an extremist.

    Posted by: Caliban | Mar 8, 2012 5:09:00 PM


  17. I like it when they put T.P. on MSNBC. Every time this hatemonger, Tony Perkins, is on the show they energize the base by showing his absurd, ridiculous, and hateful point of view (that is thinly clothed in "religious scripture" armor.) He makes an absolute´╗┐ fool of himself. It rallies more people against his cause bc his religious bigotry is exposed for all to see. Hence why the right want to put him "back in the closet" bc he is too forward with his hate & they prefer the more subtle approach.

    Posted by: Javier | Mar 8, 2012 5:18:52 PM


  18. Not every view deserves to be given a platform. Most news outlets wouldn't even consider having the KKK on to "present the other side" regarding immigration laws. Hate is hate. Hate is not informed debate. Hate lies and spreads untruths, because hate knows that it doesn't matter if logic is used to show that hate's arguments are falsehoods. Hate knows what research has shown, and what the Nazi propaganda experts knew: if you repeat an untruth over and over again people will begin to believe it, until it is impossible to change there minds, even when presented with evidence that what they believe is untrue. Giving hate a platform is a very, very dangerous gamble. If Hitler had been told to shut up when he was starting to spout his hatred in German beer halls history would have been very different.

    Posted by: Eric | Mar 9, 2012 7:39:46 AM


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