Comments

  1. TANK says

    Some of these self-important career-absorbed queens really make me laugh when they portray themselves as being bold and courageous for coming out, because most of them would set off the gaydar of just about anyone with a pulse. I wish we had some guys with more personality and who were just a tad less stereotypical to represent our community. And if they think an advanced degree from Harvard and a lot of money will protect them from the homophobia in society they are wrong. Tank is not being negative here; he’s just keeping it real. Yeah, I do shed tears for the misfortune of others, but not aspiring 1%ers!

  2. Rick says

    “And if they think an advanced degree from Harvard and a lot of money will protect them from the homophobia in society they are wrong”

    You are right about that.

  3. says

    and angry closet cases coming on here to vent more anonymous misery with fake aliases won’t make your own lives better :-)

    stop being angry that other people aren’t afraid to have everyone know that they’re gay. it’s not their fault that you don’t have the same courage or confidence.

  4. TANK says

    @LITTLEKIWI: Listen, girlfriend, you really do look ridiculous when you chastise others for using anonymous aliases even as you continue to do the same thing! Also, my argument must be logically unassailable because otherwise you’d attack my words instead of my person. I’m not being angry or cowardly; I’m just saying that our community is very diverse in so many ways and in the media we are always portrayed by gay men who fit a certain set of stereotypes. There are lots of flamboyant and over the top gay guys but not all of us are like that… that’s all Tank is saying, honey.

  5. IonMovies says

    Isn’t Tank, Jason, Rick, Ratbastard the same poster? Wasn’t there recently a huge long winded exchange about that recently? Didnd’t they get called out for it?

    Bud, the jig is up. You finally got ‘outted’ for something in your life. Stop having conversations with yourself with various fake handles.

  6. Michelle says

    Rick/Jason/Tank:

    We all know you are the same character. Those of us who have been posting for years on these forums know a thing or two about a serial nut jobs.You can deny it and be up in arms about it all you like (which makes it more obvious) but we’ve all known you to be a pretty unstable poster. Your alias screenames are equally unstable, and ironically make the same points as all your other unstable screenames. No matter how many new screenames you create on here, when your words don’t match logic, we’ll call you out as being Rick/Tank/Jason (the same person)

    sStop fighting it. Just own up to all the voices in your head that make you do it.

  7. Steve-ATL says

    What does Rick do for a living to literally be spending hours on this website crafting different psuedo personalities, with ignorant rants on here on a daily basis? Who has the time?
    LOL I picture an old, paralyzed, creepy as hell dude with boils sitting behind a computer screen.

  8. says

    of course it’s the same closeted person.

    and if he believed half of what he said he’d put a face and name to it, thus living by example.

    this is why the “i hate femmes” gays fight a losing battle, with themselves. the people they have disdain for don’t hide. and never willl :-)

  9. Brian says

    Tank, your arguments are pretty assailable, so I’ll give it a whack. The overriding issue with your attack is that it completely misses the mark. The video is a bunch of Harvard students, and the dean of the business school, giving the “it gets better” message, that life as an out gay man gets better, that places like HBS will welcome them with open arms, etc. I think it does as good a job as any of these videos in showing that life does in fact get better, and that there are lots of different paths that will open up to you if you just don’t kill yourself.

    Since they did a fine job with that message, I guess you figured you had to attack some straw men. In no way do these people come across as self absorbed, self important, etc, but you attack that stereotype anyway. Likewise they don’t claim to be bold or courageous, as you say, just that they were scared coming out, and much happier now than when they were kids, which is the whole point of the it gets better program.

    Then you just launch a broadside at effeminate men and businesspeople for no particular reason since it has nothing to do with the it gets better video. So you make two criticisms that aren’t related to anything about the video, and one criticism that is just made up (that they’re arrogant pricks claiming to be heroes for coming out). As I said at the beginning, pretty assailable.

  10. Matt26 says

    Good video.
    @Tank, Rick you wouldn’t have studied in Harvard or Yale etc, if you had a chance? I was lucky to get a good education in an excellent university and there is nothing wrong trying to get to the best schools.

  11. TANK says

    @STEVE-ATL: I don’t care if you and those other pathetic middle aged queens believe me or not, but Tank is just Tank! Ratbastard is a self-hating, obnoxious creep with an IQ much much lower than mine. As to Rick and Jason, I don’t know who they are or what they say in their posts. I, Tank, work from home, and I am not old and not paralyzed. I’m not creepy, either, but I do get boils from time to time because my diabetes isn’t quite under control. If you paranoid bitches took a moment to use logic, you’d ask Andy Towle to look at the IP numbers of Tank and those other weirdos: Tank makes all of his posts from the same old Dell Dimension desktop computer! Why in the heck would I post with different names?!

  12. says

    same thing. liberal-hating gay conservatives that can only speak from a place of complete anonymity.

    it’s why they’re so useless: they give excuses for not coming out and being totally visible at the same time that they’re complaining that “other gays that are Out” are doing it ‘wrong’

  13. TANK says

    @LITTLEKIWI, you and others of your ilk can be just as intolerant, in your own way, as the homophobes you profess to stand against. I am not against my fellow gay people who are effeminate or over the top; I’m just saying that not all of us fit into those boxes. Don’t jump to the conclusion that us he-man, manly type gay guys are self-hating conservatives: I don’t hate myself and I’m not conservative. You have a lot of anger that you need to deal with, I think. I am trying to be polite with those here who disagree with me and so I’d like the same courtesy, if possible. You try living in a small town and being from a locally prominent devoutly Catholic conservative family with a long record of military service and family ties to lots of top Republicans, and being out to one’s family and close friends, and see what that’s like. So don’t question my courage and struggle to be pro-gay to the extent that I can be.

  14. MarkUs says

    How can we be so anonymous little wise one. I recall you were telling me all about my parents because I think Obama is a socialist idiot. Can you have my mom call me? I need a recipe.

  15. Ryan says

    Most of you gay conservatives have done nothing to make the rest of us on here think anything other than our preconcieved notions of what conservatives are. In fact, of the more conservative leaning gays on here like Markus, Rat Bastard, Rick, Jason….I see more homophobia, ignorant remarks about feminine gays and butch lesbians, bigotry, and siding with religious organizations than I do from the most militant straight republican. YOU guys are supposed to bridge the gap between indepdent/democrat gays and conservative gays? Really? Since my time reading posts by conservative gays on this site, I’ve not only had every notion about conservatives reaffirmed, but I’ve realized they are actual more extreme and homophobic than I acknowledged. If GAY conservatives who actually visit gay blogs can be filled with such bigotry, then are you really trying to sell us on the idea that the straight ones are better than you? We’re not buying what you’re selling kids.

  16. MegaMax says

    Wow! that was incredibly well said Ryan. Except you’re giving the gay conservative(s) on here too much credit. There’s maybe TWO of them, with 30 different screenames. Both making the same point, but due to insecurity, making it under various handles. But you are very right on about how the conservative gays who visit this site have lived up to every negative thought about them.

  17. USC Trojan Fan says

    Let’s see. The Republican gay members of towleroad often side with the anti gay angle of any story.

    They always have some kind of jab, or comment about fem gays to paint them as some kind of social misfits who deserve what they get from a bigoted society.

    They are more fixated on pointing out flaws within the gay community, all while exagerating them rather than calling out their own ilk.

    They are indifferent toward anti gay prejudice and make it well known…

    and then they wonder why more gays don’t jump on their emotionally disturbed bandwagon.

    I’d rather personally hand deliver my soul to the devil. Quite frankly.

  18. Derrick from Philly says

    This is very strange indeed.

    I didn’t believe that TANK and RICK could be the same person because the “orginal” TANK was supposed to be Jewish–and he seemed to know a lot about Jewish culture(s) and Jewish heritage. I remember I once called him a Nazi and he became quite offended. He told me of family members killed in the Holocaust. Of course, one doesn’t have to be Jewish to have family members killed by the Nazis.

    RATBASTARD seems to be the same poster who used to call himself “JOHN FROM BOSTON” a few years ago. RAT often mentions being a resident of Boston in his postings, and his dislike and fear of Black people is identical to that of his former persona.

    Yes, I’m perplexed, and angry at myself for being so…because I shouldn’t give a flying f.ck about the real identities of these looney tune right-wing homos on this blog.

    Thank God I brought my flask with me to work today.

  19. USC Trojan Fan says

    Tank, your obsession with fem gays isn’t something new. You bring it up often, so don’t play it off as a passive topic you just brushed up on. It’s that fixation that is troublesome, considering it goes deeper than fem gays. It’s an unresolved issue you havent addressed within yourself. If you were truly comfortable in your skin, you wouldn’t care who was fem or wasn’t.

    All your posts frankly read bitter, angry and jaded. The truth hurts sometimes, but it’s always the truth

  20. Brice says

    No one who is TRULY masculine constantly reffers to themselves as “manly man” or “masculine” or even cares, or even observes others mannersims while comparing it to their own. Only someone who is putting on an ACT goes to those great lengths. What a sorry existence for them too.

  21. says

    Hey “Tank” – i have a better idea. Prove what you say is true. After all, my @ss can do it, why not yours?

    Share your story. Make a youtube video. An act so easy that even a femme can do it 😉

    But yeah, I call your bluff. I’m calling your bluff on your story and your (HA!) “courage”

    so put up, sugar 😀

    here’s an example: http://youtu.be/Ya8-ECHxMPQ

  22. says

    Tank:

    Why do you need other gay men to be showcased then approved by straight society for you to feel validated? You gain your validation in life by what straight people think of you?

    Might want to ask yourself why that is.

  23. TANK says

    Well, all the mindless drones are out in full force to parrot the leftist party line! Your completely farcical arguments only help to illustrate why the left in this country will always be loud, marginalized, and politically impotent. God Bless America! On days like this, Tank wonders if there is even any point in continuing to post here, but I wouldn’t want to let down Andy Towle, a great guy with an open mind, or Tank’s fans, by leaving this scene entirely. Just remember: groupthink stinks, whether it comes from the Fox News Channel newsreaders or the supposedly progressive, sophisticated, educated queens of limited outlook who throw their purses at anyone here who disagrees with their nonsense! Sorry to be blunt, folks, but Tank has to keep it real!

  24. Brian says

    I agree, Derrick, it’s perplexing and annoying to give a sh’t at the same time. I am 100 percent sure that Jason and Rick are the same person. My gut feeling is that Ratbastard is actually someone different. And Tank is a complete mystery. He disappears for long periods of time, but seems a completely different, though always disagreeable, person each time he appears. His latest rant came right out of Rick/Jason’s playbook but that’s not always the case.

    And Ryan, your comments on this group, however, they’re configured in real life, are spot on.

  25. IonMovies says

    This belittling of feminine gay men by other gay men is sincerely the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever witnessed in my life, and whats worse is, from my many years of experience, those who belittle fem gays the most are usually the most fem themselves…yet their ignorance and anger at the world is clouting their judgment.

    You are no better, more innovative, or a greater contributor in this world for appearing ‘straight’ or masculine. If anything, you have it easier in life, and want MORE respect from gays for being masculine (be it inherent or an act)…and what’s more, it’s not enough that you’re masculine (which you need to be pointed out with a disclaimer)…you want the rest of us to alter our mannerism and actions to suit YOUR comfort levels of how the world views us. Some serious nerve. And arrogance. But what do you expect from a crowd that more often than not calls themselves “straight acting”

  26. Anderson says

    Why does this Tank clown call himself in third person, and recall his “fans”

    Does this site get advertised on some insane assylum? Seriously.

  27. says

    as annoying as the anonymous-trolls are, i suppose we can all take a form of solace knowing that their misery and self-loathing will die with them in their closets.

    but for the troll and his many times, i do offer this:

    my parent’s advice to you could actually help you finally standing up to your own conservative communities.

    you can either become proactive and make your life better, or continue doing as you’re doing – hating liberals and “femmes” anonymously, all because nobody in your life actually accepts you as a gay man. at some point, you need to be an adult and grow a spine.

  28. says

    Nope, nothing real-er than referring to your fake fake-self in the 3rd person. Goodness, a band of troll mothers must have banded their retirement funds together to restore Internet to the walk-in basement closets where their middle-aged “single” “bachelor” sons reside. Either that or it’s just 4/20 . . . and things get giggly on that day.

  29. Jon says

    1. I’m from Ontario – not American – so I don’t care.
    2. Obama is a piece of $h!t.
    3. Bush was a bigger piece of $h!t.

    All I know is, people who think that everyone who disagrees with them must all be the same poster simply because no one could ever disagree with them are probably the biggest pieces of $h!t. I mean, seriously – you can’t have gay republicans? There are reasons to dislike Obama. His foreign policy sucks as I have pointed out before. There’s lots of reasons to dislike Romney – he’s so inconsistent no one knows what he believes.

    I don’t link my name to a website because I don’t want to be stalked and I don’t have a blog. Do you really think I need to start a blog and post all my info online just so that you know that I’m not someone else? That’s insane!

    What if I say that Rick is really LittleKiwi. Can you prove he isn’t? Just because Kiwi has a blog (nice blog btw) doesn’t mean that he isn’t posting as Rick, either.

    Such is the nature of the internet. Let’s just put ideas out there and not worry who the people are.

  30. TANK says

    @IONMOVIES, you must be new to this forum, since you seem like a thoughtful and intelligent person. You are right, those of us who are gay and who can “pass” as straight have it a lot easier in many ways. I would never ague that all gay guys have to try to “look straight” or “act straight” to win the approval of straight society at large or for any other reason. The point I just try to make here often, and to no avail, is that not all of us are flamboyant and fabulous. Not all of us live in cosmopolitan big cities or adore Bette Midler or dress stylishly. It makes me sad to see that so many people in our community claim to be about diversity and tolerance, yet they are very intolerant of those among us who do not hew to their party line. Tank has dated mostly conflicted “straight” guys all his life because so many “out” gay guys don’t like gay guys like Tank, and that is really a shame. Some of us not only get rejected by society at large but in the places we’d think we’d feel welcomed. My hope is that our community can one day be more accepting of the many types of diversity among us. I know some catty queens here won’t pay attention to anything I say but I know that there are some thoughtful people who will listen to me and for that I’m grateful.

  31. Rick says

    If you really think Jason and I are the same person (or Tank or anybody else you don’t like or agree with), then, as Tank said, ask the proprietor of the website who has access to the IP addresses that all these posts are coming from. Go ahead. Do it.

    None of us are the same person–well, at least I know I am not any of those other people……and it is hilarious to see the terror it strikes into the hearts of so many of you to find out that your gay orthodoxy is regarded as completely illegitimate by many, probably most gay and bi people in the country (most of whom will not come to this site because of the herd mentality).

    But each and every one of you knows perfectly well from daily experience that effeminate men are not respected in the larger society and never will be. You can come hear and pretend that it isn’t so or that one day that will change–and comfort each other in that thought, but it won’t–and deep down, you know it won’t, just as you know that such behavior is cultural artifice and a reflection of the low self-esteem of those who engage in it.

    And Brian, no amount of education will protect effeminate men from the thrashing they are going to get in the business world, Harvard or Wharton MBA or not. In fact, even if you are not effeminate and are only thought to be gay, it can and will be used against you. That is just the reality of the situation.

    So you can all go on playing games with yourselves or you can learn to be men, but be assured that only by doing the latter will you ever be a fully respected member of society.

    P.S. Matt, Wharton is the highest-ranked MBA program in the world and has been for decades, higher than Harvard, much less Yale, although those two schools are ranked higher at the undergraduate level. Just an FYI.

  32. Brian says

    Rick,

    Thanks for the career advice, but I’ve been an out gay managing director on Wall Street for over a decade, and no thrashing or negative consequences of any kind. I mean no negative consequences from being gay, not from being in finance, which is a whole other story.

    And the Wharton insecurity thing is endearing.

  33. Cubs Fan in DC says

    About Tank, et al,

    I think it is very sad that ANY gay man feels the need to critcize the manner or mannerisms of any other gay man. I would have thought that we at least would be beyond judging people that way.

    The idea that some of these men are so fem that coming out was somehow not a courageous act — well sorry, but that is just assinine.

    That you find the alleged effeminateness of some of the men on the video even worth commenting on, well, that says something very significant — and not good — about you.

    Have you no compassion? What grudge are you trying to work out? Because you seem really angry.

  34. Jon says

    So Rick, I personally don’t think that and don’t care if you are someone else on here too. But this doesn’t really fly with me. Up here in Canada its only the odd person that has a vocal problem with effeminate men – I don’t know what people think but they don’t often express opposition. You seem to accept that gender is a role, since you say things like being a man is learned. So why can’t society’s definition of what is manly change? It used to be manly to rape during war, for example. That is what was expected. No one expects that now. So the gender role that is learned can, it seems, shift.

  35. Rick says

    @Brian No insecurity–I was simply responding to a question asked of me by Matt about why I would have preferred Wharton to Harvard or Yale. And my initial comment in the thread was obviously intended to be humorous, so I hope that is what you mean by “endearing”.

    Anyway, I don’t know you or your circumstances–I do know that some Wall Street banks have made a point out of having gay recruitment programs, as have some of the spiffier law firms in New York–and you apparently work in one of those–but those are exceptions to the general rule, which is that the corporate world remains very, very homophobic and people will use anything to get a leg up on someone they are competing with–which includes spreading rumors about someone else’s sexual orientation.

    Good for you that you are in one of the few environments in Corporate America where–at least to an extent, that is not the case, but it is not typical by any means.

  36. Rick says

    @JON Very few people are going to actually harrass an effeminate man–the more typical reaction is just to laugh at him behind his back…..but I have never seen or heard of any effeminate gay man being in a position of power or respect in society, outside of the most stereotypical of roles–fashion designers, etc.

    I have not said that being a man is “learned”. Masculinity comes naturally to the vast majority of men–it is programmed by nature, by hormones, by genetics–and one sees this in every other species, as well–in all the higher primates, in all mammals, across the board.

    When I said effeminate men need to “learn” to be men, what I meant was they need to “unlearn” the artificial behavior that their effeminacy consists of. Referring to other men in the female vernacular, walking and talking in a way that is designed to imitate women, and, of course, the physical cowardice that is perhaps its most salient characteristic. And overarching all this is the psychological tendency to live vicariously through women and idolize them, in exclusion to men.

    None of that is natural or good, no matter how hard some of you try to strain.

    Finally, I have to point out the constant contradictions that some of you engage in. If there is no “opposition” to effeminate men, to use your term, then why is their bullying and why is there a need to make such an issue out of it?

    If gender is a “construct”, as you are implying, then why do you have an emotional and sexual preference for one gender overe the other (which is how almost all of us would define being gay)?

    You see, you simply cannot have your cake and eat it, too–and when you combine that with the fact that almost no gay men themselves find effeminate behavior attractive, the absurdity of some of the efforts to defend it is just mind-boggling.

    I really think it is just about fear: most gay men are simply afraid that they cannot meet the masculine standards that straight men do and that comes from having been told that they can’t their entire lives……so instead of facing that fear head-on, many persist in this futile attempt to denigrate masculinity, itself, which is doomed to failure…..

  37. Jon says

    Well, it seems like you’re saying that masculinity is natural and has roots in biology and femininity is artificial and learned. So when males emulate females they need to “unlearn” the artifice. But certainly femininity is as natural and biologically based in straight females. Hormones and genetics govern the expressions of femininity in females.

    Like that study with primates where the male monkeys had a choice of toys and preferred toys with moving parts and tools, whereas female monkeys preferred dolls and toys that allowed them to express their nurturing instincts.

    But you are ignoring a lot of evidence that gay males are biologically similar to women as far as brain chemistry and anatomy goes. The corpus colossum and hypothalamus are very similar. So you seem to be assuming that gay males are not naturally expressing themselves and that it is artifice. But gay males with effeminate traits might have artificially changed their behavior to be more masculine, too. I had a lisp when I was a kid and my dad wasn’t having any of that. But it was artifice, not nature, that compelled me to change.

    You’re wrong to assume all this I think. I think there can be biologically-based causes (hormone levels, brain chemistry, etc.)for effeminate behavior. Artifice has nothing to do with it.

  38. StraightGrandmother says

    I’ll just add this then go away. I don’t know who is who on here, I used to read this website somewhat regularly and even from time to time post a comment. But I quit visiting and commenting.

    It is all so negative over here. What really upset me were nasty comments on those beautiful wedding videos. Who says such a thing? You know the people who got their video posted are going to read the comments, and some people for some unknown reason, make a nasty comment about the really nice people in the wedding videos. I haven’t visited this website in over a week, I enjoyed the Harvard students video, I scroll down to comments and what do I see?

    Do you know that you are pushing people away from visiting here when you make mean comments on material where there is no reason at all to make mean comments? These young men are going to read those mean comments and their mothers and fathers and family and friends also.

    I think the owners of this website are wrong to leave lashing out comments stand, they should remove them. It is because of these comments and so many others like it, that I no longer visit this website very often. I read enough horrible comments on the H8ters side, I don’t need to read it on our side as well. And for no reason! There is no reason at all to make a nasty comment about this article and video. I don’t think the website owners really appreciate how much this drives people AWAY from their website.

  39. RyanInSacto says

    I’m with you, StraightGrandmother. I’ve requested time and again that the owners of this blog institute a more sophisticated commenting system that would allow readers to rate and/or flag comments. Unfortunately, they have yet to implement any such improvements. I suspect it is because they think that the nasty comments increase the number of page views, which means more advertising dollars. However, as you astutely point out, it’s possible that they are losing readers – and therefore page views – by allowing this nonsense to continue.

  40. Jon says

    I think you have to accept that that is the nature of the internet and speech in general. I remember those comments about the wedding vids and didn’t agree with the comments, but a flagging system just means that everyone who thinks differently gets voted down and their comments disappear. And that means every day people will be complaining because others will abuse that.

    I am practically a socialist and I know that my criticisms of Obama and Harper (Canadian politician) would just get flamed. So then you’d come to a boring noncontroversial website where everyone thought the same thing. Isn’t the internet for dialogue? Why have a comments section at all if you are only going to allow one type of view? It doesn’t make sense to me.

  41. Jackson says

    I seriously think Andy the owner of this site needs to consider banning Rick. His endless rants, filled with homophobia targetting our feminine gay brothers (who I will fight till the death defending!! seeing the prejudice they already deal with) has gone overboard and needs to end. Andy is doing a great disservice to many gays, many vulnerable gays at that, by allowing clinically insane people like Rick get away with such ignorant garbage spewed. Andy has in the past banned racist commentators, and I feel there should be no exception made toward trolls who target our fem gay brothers.

  42. Real Talk says

    Who cares if you’re masculine? I’d be considered “masculine” but other than the relevance of mentioning it here, I’d NEVER go around saying “I’m masculine! I’m butch!” because no truly masculine man would ever say that, much less devote time thinking about it, much less bash fem dudes. Only some insecure, wack cat who isn’t comfortable in his skin has to put other people down, especially fellow gays, to feel good about himself…and for what? walking butch? Wow. Huge accomplishment. You deserve a Noble Peace prize.

    Guys, take it from a guy who is considered masculine but hardly proud of it or brings attention to it; when you meet a gay guy who boasts about his masculinity, he’s got a complex. And is a walking red flag. Keep your distance and let him sort out his mess.

  43. Tile says

    I genuinly wish instead of our fem gay teens taking their own lives, Rick would commit suicide. He is truly the most disturbed individual on the internet. Rick, people like you don’t really contribute much in this world. Hope you get cancer and die, because truly, your words are cancer. Wishing nothing but the worst for you, you looney monster.

  44. RyanInSacto says

    Jon – I agree with you that a simple flagging system would be homogenizing and boring. However, there are a lot of sophisticated systems out there now for comment boards (See Wonkette.com’s or Salon.com’s systems for example). Implementing this technology can allow for heated discussion while also cutting down on trolling comments that are merely meant to incite and get attention rather than to debate and discuss.

  45. says

    Closeted men become obsessed by masculinity since from the lens of the closet they can’t focus on civil rights because the closeted have no use for civil rights–you can’t fight for or take advantage of progress on gay rights when you’re invisible. So the closeted, particularly as they creep alone into late middle-age, feel threatened as they are left behind by those who live open, honest lives and have families and are embraced by their communities. Gay rights progress and people standing up for gay rights only highlight for the closeted all the things they will never have access to, so their only option is to cling to some imagined 1950s vision of what it meant to be gay: A 2-dimensional butch guy in a yellowed beefcake magazine. What a life.

    It’s possible to have political disagreements here and actually have a real discussion, but it’s impossible to have a real discussion with those who are deeply entrenched in the closet and mindlessly repeat the same non-arguments over and over or, obviously, with those who create silly multiple personas and refer to themselves in the 3rd person and speak of nonexistent “fans.” Lady Gaga and Ben Cohen have fans–trolls have imaginary friends.

  46. ratbastard says

    No, I’m not posting under any other name. Pure fantasy some people have. And I don’t know any other posters on here.

    I live 1/2 mile from Harvard B. School. It would be nice if this place would produce fewer psychopaths and sociopaths and maybe ingrain in them some genuine ethics and respect for basic humanity, not just what looks good on their resume, how to cheat and get away with it, inflate grades, and the attitude that the end justifies the means. This place produces our business ‘elite’, the people who created systems and ideas that caused for example the the 2008 crash, massive unemployment, off-shoring of jobs, trickle down effect, etc. The number one motivations they’re taught are to maximize profits at any costs, as long as they can get away with it. Human beings are ‘resources’ nothing more. And these people have the chutzpah to make a ‘It Get’s Better’ video?

  47. ratbastard says

    Is ‘Rick’ a foil, a fake persona, created by someone who wants to use ‘Rick’ to agitate the ‘masses’ in the opposite direction? These forums often if not always degenerate into name calling and ‘Rick’ said this, ‘Tank’ said that, ‘ratbastard’ should just dies, blah, blah. blah. It would be nice if people could just stick to the subject [myself included], because it detracts from the subject at hand. Maybe that’s the whole point?

  48. getreal says

    “it get’s better” is a fraud being pushed on a lot of people and it does not work, type “sucide” into the search box on towleroad and be horrified as more than 30 pages are returned.

    People do not need a “happy ending” in the vague future, they need a helping hand in the here and now and a support network.

    A better campaign is “it will take incredible strength to be identified as gay in most places in the USA. Can you handle it ?” If your happy pInterest or Facebook page results in your death then its not worth it! Wait for safety and support before announcing to the world.

    In the old days when there was a “gay community” instead of a bunch of “pre-marrieds”, people ran away to NYC or San Franciso when faced with these pressures, now they just die. What progress has been achieved?

    Don’t offer false hope and “wish and a dream” promises. It NEVER gets better, it’s called LIFE, and its hard and unfair and you need to be prepared to deal with it.

    Let’s stop people from dying, come up with some real resouces for support and stop the blue sky and sunshine crazy talk.

  49. says

    i’d counter that, GetReal, and suggest instead what myself, my sister, my mother and father, and countless others have done with the It Gets Better project – make a video wherein you share a specific, applicable and PROACTIVE video where you show people HOW they can make life better, for themselves and others.

    that’s the beauty of this campaign – ANYONE can make a video, with ANY message.

    You don’t need to make a video where you sing kumbaya and say “it’ll get better” – you can share exactly what you personally did to find that strength in your own life, and HOW to make it better for others.

    it’s simply a proactive way to attain what people here are claiming to want – use the internet to give the specific and applicable messages and give a direction for people to see in which they can find strength and happiness in life.

    show them how to make it better.

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