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Vatican Cracks Down on American Nuns for Not Being Anti-Gay Enough

America's Catholic nuns are getting too out-of-control progressive for Rome, the WaPo reports:

PopeThe Vatican has launched a crackdown on the umbrella group that represents most of America’s 55,000 Catholic nuns, saying that the group was not speaking out strongly enough against gay marriage, abortion and women’s ordination.

The Vatican called "inadequate" an explanation from the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) that it did “not knowingly invite speakers who take a stand against a teaching of the church when it has been declared as authoritative teaching," and suggested that the nuns are not loud enough on opposition to abortion, homosexuality, and gay marriage:

The Vatican announcement said that “while there has been a great deal of work on the part of LCWR promoting issues of social justice in harmony with the church’s social doctrine, it is silent on the right to life from conception to natural death.”

It added that “crucial” issues like “the church’s biblical view of family life and human sexuality, are not part of the LCWR agenda in a way that promotes church teaching. Moreover, occasional public statements by the LCWR that disagree with or challenge positions taken by the bishops, who are the church’s authentic teachers of faith and morals, are not compatible with its purpose.”

The NYT adds:

Word of the Vatican’s action took the group completely by surprise, Sister Sanders said. She said that the group’s leaders were in Rome on Wednesday for what they thought was a routine annual visit to the Vatican when they were informed of the outcome of the investigation, which began in 2008.

“I’m stunned,” said Sister Simone Campbell, executive director of Network, a Catholic social justice lobby founded by sisters. Her group was also cited in the Vatican document, along with the Leadership Conference, for focusing its work too much on poverty and economic injustice, while keeping “silent” on abortion and same-sex marriage.

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  1. "...for focusing its work too much on poverty and economic injustice, while keeping 'silent' on abortion and same-sex marriage."

    Remind you of Anyone Else?

    Sure do...Your f*cked up Gov Rick Perry...Oh wait....Not Rick he's nowhere near that generous. TEAXS...UGH!

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    Posted by: yoyo | Apr 19, 2012 1:27:26 AM


  3. FOR NOW
    GAY, CATHOLIC, PUTTING MONEY IN THE PLATE

    EQUALS TRAITOR

    Speak up, act up! Let the other catholics know how you feel, and how they should vote on the initiatives in many States

    Posted by: Bob | Apr 19, 2012 2:49:48 AM


  4. You can still make donations, just make sure they are ear-marked for certain projects, such as parish improvement fund, St. Vincent de Paul fund, food pantry, etc. If it is specifically ear-marked for a certain fund, it cannot be removed from the local church and sent to Rome. As a practicing Catholic, this saddens me to no end. My own parents have left the Church because of their views on women and gays. I've been a member of my current church for about a decade. I think of those people as my family. I am sure they know about me and love me all the same, but it is discouraging to see the leader of our Church make such ignorant comments. I feel badly for those nuns. Once again, they get stuck with the clean-up. Why won't the Pope address the child molestation cases in the Church? I think they should spend ALL of their time eliminating that cancer from the Church, and should focus on nothing else until the problem is taken care of...end of story. Get your own house clean in Rome before you try to start trying cleaning my house.

    Posted by: millerbeach | Apr 19, 2012 4:38:00 AM


  5. The Church is consuming itself. Burning itself up with its newly found Right-wing political agenda. I am glad to see the church enter into the fray on social issues in the west... it will completely annihilate the church in the west. They have no idea what they're doing! Talk about the cops who couldn't shoot straight.. .THese guys are a mess.

    Posted by: dan Cobb | Apr 19, 2012 5:29:41 AM


  6. The Church in America is built on the backs of the Sisters. The Catholic Hospitals and Schools were built with their hard work and money. Bishops frequently oppossed their work, took their money. Parish priests frequently did not pay the Sisters for thier work in the schools and still they remain faithful. Nothing has changed, the men in dresses and tiaras harras the ones who do the work

    Posted by: michael white | Apr 19, 2012 5:40:04 AM


  7. I feel sorry for modern day Catholics. I can't imagine having to take orders from such hate-filled closeted gay bigots. Why so people stay in the Catholic Church? Time for people to think on their own and embrace equality and human rights for all.

    Posted by: Rob roberts | Apr 19, 2012 6:38:11 AM


  8. The money that goes into collection plates is mostly disappearing into funds to compensate victims of priestly abuse.

    See also http://www.the-tls.co.uk/tls/public/article1009146.ece for how the church uses its unaudited cash.

    Posted by: MikeW | Apr 19, 2012 6:42:37 AM


  9. Has this gang of thugs totally taken over the church and silenced everyone else ?

    oh, the Sorcerer's Apprentice has learned his lessons well in his "Youth" in Germany.
    I feel sorry for Jesus and his instructions to feel the poor , clothe the naked etc.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Apr 19, 2012 7:44:14 AM


  10. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

    F*ck the Pope.

    The catholic religion, like most religions, is a cult, plain and simple.

    Posted by: johnny | Apr 19, 2012 7:49:47 AM


  11. Didn't we just have a post about a Catholic priest who received a standing ovation for refusing to sign an anti-gay marriage petition and circulate it in his church? The whole Catholic church should not be condemned. And I wonder how many people here who comment that it's harder to be a nun than a priest have any knowledge that would enable them to make this claim? And I don't understand this tendency of gay men to make fun of Catholic clergy for wearing "dresses." If a transvestite or transgendered man wears a dress we have to respect it as his right to self-expression. But when clergy wear ROBES whose meaning is quite clear and accepted among the general population we should sneer as if there's something odd about it? If Trans people should be respected (and they SHOULD) then so should Catholics - laity and clergy alike. Many priests are politically liberal. Try to encourage this element of the church instead of sounding anti-Catholic. You'll get better results. Millions of people are still on the fence regarding the place of gay people in society.

    Posted by: Mary | Apr 19, 2012 8:08:46 AM


  12. Merci, John Parick!

    There are a great many perfectly nice Catholic parishoners, Mary. There are a number of perfectly pleasant priests and nuns as well.

    The problem, Mary, is that they're employed by the world's largest, wealthiest and thoroughly lawyered pedophile cult.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Apr 19, 2012 8:51:10 AM


  13. @ MARY :
    Somehow I missed out on the Trans Gender Community attacking our rights, calling us "disordered" and doing their damnedest to roll back on any equality we have achieved.

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Apr 19, 2012 8:52:38 AM


  14. having spent the first 8 years of my education with nuns i can say how much respect i do have for them, even though i no longer am part of the church & Ratzinger & his ilk think me worse than a pagan, i can tell you that the #1 message of the RC is engrained in me from them & it is a pretty good message - it's NOT what you pray or say, it's what you DO that makes the difference.

    that message never came across from priests; i have little respect for them as a group, only the ones i have known personally who would have been thrown out for who they were and what they believed and what they did.

    i always found it interesting that in Dante's "Inferno", as he was commenting on what was happening at his time, the majority of 'souls' he met in hell were all clergy! nothing has really change, it all stays the same...

    Posted by: mike/ | Apr 19, 2012 9:47:05 AM


  15. WTH? Nuns thinking on their own and making priorities of their true calling? We just can't have that! Nuns that want to take care of the poor, the sick the down trodden, NO, NO, NO! Where do they get crazy ideas like this? Holy Christ!

    I think I remember from somewhere that the Church was supposed to take care of the poor and sick (not the Government). Somewhere along the way, the Holy Pope's Church thinks they are supposed to be politicians! And they need more multi-million dollar buildings, not to take care of people.

    Thank you a trillion times over women religious! You're doing a great job and the Catholic Church would be NOWHERE without you here in America!

    Posted by: JT | Apr 19, 2012 11:57:44 AM


  16. Keep going RATzinger and alienate still more of your members. Good on you, bigot.

    Posted by: thedavid | Apr 19, 2012 4:14:18 PM


  17. Really? They want nuns to be MEANER??? Really???

    Posted by: Richard | Apr 19, 2012 4:23:56 PM


  18. "Pope Caligula Launches Inquisition Against Uppity Nuns Who Dare To Work For Peace And Justice Among The Poor And Despised And Dispossessed". One question: WHAT WOULD LORD JESUS SAY? This Pope is rather obviously drifting into senility or dementia. The simple fact is that even Catholics (such as myself) who have issues with certain priests nonetheless have nothing but love and affection and appreciation for the nuns who do wonderful charitable work. This Pope has completely "lost it". May he be "summoned home to Heaven" at the earliest possible opportunity. We need to start over.

    Posted by: Jeff Lord | Apr 19, 2012 7:36:20 PM


  19. To Simon, the name changed from the 'Inquisition' to its current Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith several years ago. Apparently several cardinals did not get the memo.

    Also, the bishops, cardinals and popes were taught in seminaries only a generation or two separated from Vatican I's (1870) decision to award the Pope the infallibility stamp for official Church teachings, but not for other papal functions. The bishops had to wait to award themselves more power because Garibaldi and Mazzini were tearing down the Vatican's gates. The bishops had to flee out the back door. So, in Vatican II (1964-67), the bishops wrote up what they had wanted to in Vatican I. Many of these same bishops or their teachers condemned Pope Leo XIII's encyclical on the rights of workers.

    The lack of awareness of Christ's teachings about the preferential treatment of the poor and Christ's own examples of loving others, plus the fact that God's Grace has already been given, and not to be earned, demonstrate how isolated Church authorities are from the messiness of being human. I cannot fathom how an ordained priest, bishop, cardinal could be a Republican given the RCC's teachings and work for social justice and preferential consideration for the poor.

    I'm looking forward to the next time an Abbess refuses entrance to the Pope. It happened in Rome to J-P II! Then there is Mother Nature. . . .

    Posted by: Sherfdog | Apr 20, 2012 1:15:27 AM


  20. It's so painfully clear that nuns are doing the real human work that the Church is supposed to stand for while the male hierarchy is completely out of touch. I believe that recently there was an American nun who was the head of a hospital and allowed a woman with a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy to have an abortion. If she had died, she would have left her two children orphans. In response, this brave and courageous nun was excommunicated by men who will never be faced with a crisis pregnancy.

    Note to Pope: Care more - judge less.

    Posted by: Nathan | Apr 20, 2012 1:28:45 PM


  21. There is not a single "Religion" that uses 'JESUS" as its mentor that teaches anything but hatred of nonbelievers of each "BRAND" of Christianity each "teaches". Did "Jesus" really teach such bigotry? I think not.

    Posted by: Jerry6 | Apr 28, 2012 3:33:55 PM


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