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Boston Mayor: Chick-fil-A, Move Along

MayorMeninoThis week, Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy said that the United States' gradual embrace of marriage equality is tantamount to "inviting God's judgment on our nation." In so saying, Cathy invited the judgment of Boston's Mayor Thomas M. Menino (pictured at right). From the Boston Herald:

[Mayor Menino] is vowing to block Chick-fil-A from bringing its Southern-fried fast-food empire to Boston — possibly to a popular tourist spot just steps from the Freedom Trail — after the family-owned firm’s president suggested gay marriage is “inviting God’s judgment on our nation.”

“Chick-fil-A doesn’t belong in Boston. You can’t have a business in the city of Boston that discriminates against a population. We’re an open city, we’re a city that’s at the forefront of inclusion,” Menino told the Herald yesterday.

“That’s the Freedom Trail. That’s where it all started right here. And we’re not going to have a company, Chick-fil-A or whatever the hell the name is, on our Freedom Trail.”

Chick-fil-A has long been linked with conservative causes, though seldom so controversially. This week's remarks accomplished what the company's previous Muslim-firings and gay-bashings couldn't, sparking enough backlash to evince a promise from Chick-fil-A execs to stay out of the culture wars from now on. Distinctly odd behavior for a company whose stated purpose isn't to make a profit, but rather "to glorify God." What will God make of Chick-filA's sudden meekness? Maybe Cathy et. al. aren't so pious. Maybe they just don't like gays.   

 

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  1. Frankly while I'm proud of Menino, it would be unconstitutional to ban a company from doing business because of the religious beliefs of its leaders. And yes, it does set a dangerous precedent.

    Posted by: I hate gays | Jul 21, 2012 1:48:34 PM


  2. Straight people against gay marriage makes as much sense as gay people against birth control

    Posted by: Vi Agara | Jul 21, 2012 1:50:29 PM


  3. I commend Mayor Menino for proudly proclaiming that his city will not welcome intollerance like that served up at Chick-Fil-A. What the company's president has done is just bad business. http://wp.me/p1se8R-346

    Posted by: DiatribesAndOvations | Jul 21, 2012 2:07:48 PM


  4. If a business that serves and hires gay people but opposes gay marriage can be banned from Boston, then why can't individual citizens who oppose gay marriage (irrestpective of how well they treat gays in their personal contact with them) be told to move out of Boston? Does the mayor not worry about this type of "bigotry" also?
    What law is Chick-Fil-A violating? Even if this restaurant were trying to get the Massachusets law changed (and I'm not sure that's what they're aiming for) is it against the law to try to change the law?


    My point is that the mayor's indignation at the restaurant's politics shouldn't be a reason to keep them out of town. They aren't violating any laws. And doesn't Boston need the business? I'm sure there are many unemployed people in Boston who apply for a job there.

    Posted by: Mary | Jul 21, 2012 2:27:36 PM


  5. I live in the Boston community. As a community we have moral values. The mayor of boston was speaking loudly for my beliefs. If people don't like it then it's their choice to vote him out of office. If you don't live in Boston then it's a damn shame.

    Posted by: David | Jul 21, 2012 2:35:22 PM


  6. Chick-fil-A does not ask persons dining there if they are gay, nor do they ask in their employment process. So the only discrimination occurring here is at the hands of the mayor. If and when Chick-fil-A refuses to serve or hire gays, that will be the time to oppose the restaurant. The mayor doesn't try to stop Muslim-owned businesses from locating in Boston even though women are considered to be inferior by most persons in that religion. The reason he doesn't is because those businesses do not refuse service to women nor do they refuse to hire women. They can think of women as second-class citizens all they want as long as they do not deny equal service and/or opportunity to them. The same is true of Chic-fil-A. It is their right to believe same-sex marriage is wrong and to say so. They just can't discriminate against those who support it or are engaged in it.

    Posted by: Pam | Jul 21, 2012 2:48:54 PM


  7. Boston you are so lucky to have a GREAT and intelligent Mayor !

    Posted by: Icebloo | Jul 21, 2012 3:06:52 PM


  8. http://boycottchickfila.com/

    FYI

    Posted by: rocketman | Jul 21, 2012 3:22:10 PM


  9. Now this is a smart Mayor, I am thinking about moving to Boston where they are smart enough to know what an antigay bigot looks and sounds like. Keep America Free and stop all business that discriminates against Americans just because they are black or gay or Muslim, etc..

    Posted by: Mike | Jul 21, 2012 3:33:41 PM


  10. "It is their right to believe same-sex marriage is wrong and to say so."

    Absolutely true, Pam. But who's saying it isn't their right?

    It's also a mayor's right to say that he'd rather not do business with a company that is actively (using the financial clout of their company) working to prevent the same equality that is the law of MA. If people don't like what the mayor is saying they can vote against him next time or rally in support of Chick-Fil-A. Or Chick-Fil-A could fight the mayor and win, but he's not required to roll out the red carpet for them when a business who supports the civil rights of all MA citizens could open instead.

    BTW, I'm not sure which Muslim-owned national chain you're referring to, one that's contributing large sums to anti-woman causes and is still welcomed by the Mayor? Could you be specific? And if such a business were wishing to locate in Boston, wouldn't the mayor or anyone else have a free speech right to oppose such a business?

    Posted by: Ernie | Jul 21, 2012 3:52:56 PM


  11. @Pam, I've said I'm a little uncomfortable with this but you're being more than a little disingenuous when you say "the only discrimination occurring here is at the hands of the mayor." That's complete and utter bullcrap. Chik-Fil-A gives openly and generously to anti-gay groups like NOM and Focus On The Family, which doesn't "just" oppose marriage equality but ANY and all gay rights or legal protections for gays. It's barely been a week since Chik-Fil-A owner Dan Cathy said they were "guilty as charged" regarding accusations Chik-Fil-A is anti-gay.

    Chik-Fil-A's stand on gay rights has not been passive or private, they ACTIVELY support the limiting of rights gays gain in the future and repealing those we already have. So your statement that Boston's mayor is the "only" one discriminating here is a flat-out lie and I'm not going to let it pass unchallenged.

    If there's anything that will push me toward full-on approval of the mayor's stance it's blatant lies like yours.

    Posted by: Caliban | Jul 21, 2012 3:58:51 PM


  12. In related news "Northeastern University said yesterday [February 28, 2012] that a Chick-fil-A fast-food restaurant will not be coming to campus, after the college’s student government denounced the chain amid reports that it supports groups opposed to gay and lesbian rights."

    http://articles.boston.com/2012-02-29/business/31107610_1_student-feedback-student-center-lesbian

    Posted by: ericb | Jul 21, 2012 4:54:03 PM


  13. Ernie: The mayor absolutely does have the right to oppose such a business by refusing to eat there, not opening a franchise, not owning stock in it, etc. But he does not have the right to stop them from opening a restaurant because of their beliefs. And that's what he is saying he will do: prevent them from locating in Boston. Caliban: the causes you say Mr. Cathy participates in are all legal means of opposing something he believes to be wrong. Disagreeing with someone's beliefs or practices is not discrimination; it is a right we are privileged to enjoy in this country. Opposing pedophilia does not equal discrimination even if you support groups whose purpose is to stamp out pedophilia. Opposing abortion is not discrimination against doctors who perform abortions even if you support groups whose purpose is to repeal the right to abortion. Now, refusing to serve gays and/or to employ them is unlawful. But Mr. Cathy does not engage in such practices. Also, stopping a business from operating because of the owner's beliefs is not lawful. Yet the mayor is engaging in this tactic. So, I repeat: the only discrimination occurring is that of the mayor.

    Posted by: Pam | Jul 21, 2012 5:04:02 PM


  14. Focus On The Family, one of the groups Chik-Fil-A supports financially, DOES in fact oppose protections for gays in housing, employment, and pretty much every other way imaginable. If that's not prejudicial then the definition of the word has changed since the last time I checked Websters.

    Now that that I've given it some though, f**k you and f**k Dan Cathy. More power to keeping people like you as far away from me as possible.

    Posted by: Caliban | Jul 21, 2012 5:21:54 PM


  15. Pam, wrong again. Repeating it won't make it right.

    Cathy doesn't just hold those beliefs. He ACTS. He spends huge amounts of $$ to deprive people of rights. Rights Massachusetts gays and lesbians have and rights most Massachusetts voters support.

    Would you get it if the group he gave money to was the KKK? Or al Qaeda? Since you appear to be anti Muslim. But neither of those hate groups has the clout in the US that NOM and the groups Cathy supports have. That's the difference. Hateful and effective at writing discrimination into law. Cathy is the one supporting discrimination in a big way.

    Posted by: KevinVt | Jul 21, 2012 7:34:01 PM


  16. I LOVE my mayor! He speaks plainly and represents the views of his constituents. As for all the anti-business rhetoric --- Menino is very pro-business. He just believes morals come before money.

    Posted by: mtmslg | Jul 21, 2012 8:29:12 PM


  17. @Pam: your latest comment is so full of false equivalencies that lead to the repetition of your earlier lie that it's really not worth commenting on it further.

    Chick-Fil-A's values are diametrically opposed to the family values of MA and other New England states. The politicians and citizens of these states have an absolute right to oppose inviting in a company opposed to the accepted, legal family values of the place they wish to locate. If the company still wishes to locate in a place opposed to their own values, then they can fight to be there. And if they win, they'll be expected to offer benefits (assuming Chick-Fil-A gives benefits) that include, for instance, same-sex spouses.

    As someone who lives in an equality state, I would fully expect my politicians to reflect the values of my state and not the values of a hate-group supporting company. In fact, CFA has already tried to step on some VT toes, and pretty much our whole state rose up against them. So, good luck making inroads where you're not wanted, Mr. Cathy.

    Posted by: Ernie | Jul 21, 2012 8:33:59 PM


  18. We love our Mayor here in Boston ! Tommy and his lovely wife are quite friendly with the "Hat Sisters"

    Posted by: MarkBoston | Jul 22, 2012 1:10:57 AM


  19. @Pam: if it's lawful, that makes it "right"?

    Failed Ethics 101. Remedial education required.

    Posted by: cwm | Jul 22, 2012 1:15:28 AM


  20. Boston is so smug, thinking itself the center of the universe. I came out in Boston and it's wasn't the gay paradise it's trying to portray today. Beacon Hill was the gay mecca. Charles Street was like Christopher Street in NY. I used to love walks in the cold with my high Frye boots P-Coat, mop of hair, playing the cruising game. I'm sure it's the Mayor, taking cues from the African American Governor, following Barack's lead, on this ban. I always wondered why "Dunkin Donuts" never made it to LA. They beat all donuts. Odd but today, I would be more drawn to the chicken. I'm much wiser.

    Posted by: Gary | Jul 22, 2012 1:40:33 AM


  21. Mr. Cathy can hold whatever views he pleases because that's something we have in this country: the right to free speech and the right to free thoughts. There are no thought police in this country. Some of you are so focused on one issue that you can't see the forest for the trees. If this mayor succeeds in blocking a business from locating there because the owner holds a viewpoint different from his own, he opens the door for it to be done to every single group. He opens the door for a Christian mayor to block gay-owned businesses from locating there because they don't think the way he does. The mayor of Boston can think Mr. Cathy is despicable, he can think Mr. Cathy is wrong, he can think Mr. Cathy should not support the causes that he does. This is America. What he can't do is prevent him from opening a business there because of those things. And that is what the mayor wants to do. As long as there is no discrimination in service or employment, the rest is Mr. Cathy's business and no one else's. I can guarantee you if the scenario mentioned above (Christian mayor attempting to block a gay-owned business from locating in his city) plays out, most of you will be right back here taking the opposing view to what you have right now--even if the owners of that business support gay causes that attempt to strip Christians of their rights. Are you on here protesting Muslim-owned businesses from locating in Boston? I think not, even though women are treated dreadfully by members of that religion. And you should not because as long as the Muslim business owners do not discriminate against women in service to customers and/or in hiring practices, it is no one's business what their thoughts and beliefs are. Even if it is learned that the owners of those businesses support groups attempting to get Sharia law enforced (as has happened), no one has the right to prevent their business from opening in their city--as long as the owners comply with the laws of this nation. There is no law preventing persons from supporting causes you despise.

    Posted by: Pam | Jul 22, 2012 7:36:01 AM


  22. You gay apologists -- my god. Comparing this to a business that's pro-gay? A pro-gay company doesn't donate money to ANTI-STRAIGHT organizations. It is NOT the same thing. How can anyone not see the glaring difference in this case? There's nothing to be iffy about. This is not politics. Chick-fil-A funds HATE GROUPS. There is no equivalent on our side. NONE.

    Posted by: Robert | Jul 22, 2012 9:18:05 AM


  23. @Pam, YOU are the one who cited acceptance of pedophilia as an apt comparison to gay rights.

    YOU are the one connected rights for gay people and abortion.

    It is so so sad that self-proclaimed "Christians" are such poor, pitiful victims in all if this. Maybe one of these days you'll have a voice in government, maybe even elect a Christian President.

    Oh. Wait. Every goddamn President in the entire history of the US has been at least nominally Christian and what you're really whining about is that you can't impose your RELIGIOUS beliefs on CIVIL law!

    If it weren't so nauseating it would be funny how "Christians" cast themselves as victims in all of this, not because they don't have adequate representation in government, but because they can't impose their religious beliefs on others. It's even more amazing when you consider that most "Christians" ignore all the Biblical rules that apply to themselves but insist that it's the inerrant Word Of God™ when it comes to gays.How very convenient!

    For one thing, Pam, the Bible says you should keep your big fat trap shut (New Testament) and go bake your hubby a pie. Normally I dismiss the Biblical rules but in your case I'm willing to make an exception.

    Posted by: Caliban | Jul 22, 2012 9:37:05 AM


  24. Pam.

    Once again. Please give us one example of any gay organization attempting to strip Christians of their rights. Have Christians lost a single right anywhere in the US (the right to force others to live as Christians please doesn't count)?

    Or of a Muslim organization or business that has affected gay rights or women's legal rights in the US in any way. In which state or city is Sharia law enforced? Do enlighten us, please!

    Then -- maybe -- we can talk.

    Posted by: KevinVt | Jul 22, 2012 9:48:05 AM


  25. Pam.

    Once again. Please give us one example of any gay organization attempting to strip Christians of their rights. Have Christians lost a single right anywhere in the US (the right to force others to live as Christians please doesn't count)?

    Or of a Muslim organization or business that has affected gay rights or women's legal rights in the US in any way. In which state or city is Sharia law enforced? Do enlighten us, please!

    Then -- maybe -- we can talk.

    Posted by: KevinVt | Jul 22, 2012 9:48:07 AM


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