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  1. IS says

    It’s so frustrating — even this site, which supports Obama, can’t correctly interpret what he said. Obama did NOT need to use the word “alone” following “you didn’t build that” because “that” refers to the roads and the bridges, not the business. He thesis stands as is. Sure, it’s unfortunate he said it in a way that enables the sentence to be isolated and used against him, but anyone with basic reading comprehension should be able to understand his point. I can only hope, though I have little of it, that Americans aren’t so stupid as to buy into the twisted lie that Romney’s ad is pushing.

  2. Nick says

    You are correct IS but unfortunately America is too stupid to understand. On Friday half of an entire NPR program was devoted to this ridiculous topic and the host was fanning the flames of ignorance.
    It is called basic reading for comprehension and knowing the context of the soundbite- way too much work for people. Afterall there is texting, twittering,facebooking to do- don’t ever let facts get in the way of a good story.

  3. Paul says

    When did it become uncool to say “lie”? Romney didn’t “take liberties.” He lied. When you say something means the opposite of what it means, that’s a lie.

  4. Ken says

    By the way, this taking liberties with pulling quotes out of context to change their meaning has gone both ways. Look up Romney’s “I like being able to fire people” quote.

  5. Matt says

    Is, Paul, and Nick: You 3 are the stupid Americans, not Romney or the millions of Americans who understood what Obama intended. So sick and tired of our Community-Organizer-in-Chief. The New Republic is as left wing as you can get, so no wonder they are running scared by calling the ad a scandal. Get out of your bubble, heck, put on some clothes for once and step away from your computer and venture outside, talk with business owners and see what they have to say about this. Suck it, sheeple.

  6. Paul R says

    I’m an ardent enemy of Romney, but it’s true that Obama or his speechwriters screwed up this one. It’s not about reading comprehension, it’s about use of impersonal pronouns and references. “You didn’t build those” would have been the fix—it’s natural for a singular to modify the preceding singular, not the plural items from the previous sentence—and bringing business into it simply creates problems.

  7. Paul R says

    I’d also be curious to know how Obama is “killing” this metal-working factory. What’s killing it is that China and myriad other countries can produce and export products much more cheaply. What does he want, subsidies? Wouldn’t that violate Republican principles?

  8. john patrick says

    Mitt Romney – licensed to lie.

    For those LGBT people who are thinking of voting for Romney because he once said he supported our rights – he is a liar. You can’t trust a liar, especially when he lies about everything and caves whenever a right wing bigot or nut brings pressure upon him. He lies, he hides his job information, his tax and investment information, his history as governor. He bullied a fellow student and mistreated his dog. Then when confronted he made light of the incidents. I sometimes wonder if he has a core or if he is just an empty shell.

  9. BobN says

    I’m totally sure that if Obama had included the word “alone” in his speech, the GOP would have reported his speech correctly in its entirety.

    “Alone” is the magic word, you see…

  10. Sargon Bighorn says

    No one does anything alone except maybe die (and with so many guns out there I question that too). However, when a person makes millions or a person is a broke penniless no body, they have both used the same roads, street lights, school system, religious system etc or what have you. You understand that point. If the “rich” don’t do it alone, neither to the poor. This whole argument is silly. The thing most people don’t like is some get rich, while most don’t.

  11. Mike says

    I debated a guy on another site about this, and he said he bought that road with his taxes and to stay off it. as if he and he alone could fund an interstate (or an educational system or port or research).

    The self-delusion and ignorance of the right never ceases to amaze.

  12. Chris says

    First let me say that I am an Obama supporter and the thought of President Romney actually frightens me.

    And I have watched that video of Obama making this speech several times, and I 100% percent understand what he was saying, and I own a small business and I get what he was saying…but who in God’s name vetted that line? As soon as it was said, you just knew that line was tailor made to be exploited. All Obama is really guilty of here is a gaffe of a line, but it played into every right wing conspiracy theory about Obama.

  13. LincolnLounger says

    The most dishonest campaign ad ever was brought to us by the “forward” gang at Obama for America concerning outsourcing. It’s so egregious that the Washington Post, that noted conservative icon, noted the dishonesty.

    President Orator deserves all he gets for the filthy campaign he is running pitting Americans against each other to distract voters from this horrific economy. Obama is the once who promised unemployment under 8% and to halve the federal deficit. His words, and he had two years of large Democrat majorities to make whatever changes he wanted.

    Facts are stubborn things, though.

  14. says

    If his father went to a bank to borrow the money needed to build a company, then no he didn’t build the company on his own. If you are smart because you went to school to learn what you know, then you did not get smart on your own. If you live in society, then I can almost guarantee that you did not get to where you are on your own; everyone you’ve ever interacted with has help you along the way. Mr. Obama should have included, “You should thank your parents, your teachers, your customers, your employees, and your community for helping you get to where you are!” Without that, he does sound arrogant. On the other hand, Mr. Romney and Mr. Gilchrist sound flat out offensive. Mr. Gilchrist in particular, because I can say without a doubt he would not have been able to own a factory without his dad starting it. He forgets that without a community there wouldn’t have been a bank that his father could have borrowed money from. No man is an island.

  15. john patrick says

    “Lincolnlounger” is a Republicant. You can tell because he uses the phrase “Democrat majorities” rather than “Democratic majorities.” Since the Republicants continue to use the term Democrat Party, I use the term Republicants, because they can’t raise taxes on the rich, can’t fund jobs programs, can’t denounce bigots and liars among them, can’t put more money into education, can’t do this and can’t do that. Nor can they vote for Republican ideas that Obama or other Democrats have adopted, simply because these particular Republicants are trying to destroy the economy and prevent Obama from being reelected.

    “Lincolnlounger also sounds like a Limbaugh “ditto head.” and a “Fox devotee.”

  16. say what says

    Uhm Lincolnloung

    U obviously don’t read the Washington Post…They have since retracted that and stated flat out that romney needs to provide new more info and they will not award anymore pinochios against the outsourcing claim because new information has come to light along with romney camp not responding with nay facts

    Busted

    please get up to date on your news info..especially in the internet age when 1 minute can be a lifetime in news

  17. say what says

    oh and here you go Lincoln since I seriously doubt you would actually try to look for real facts as vs requrgitating a talking point

    Ben keeslar WAPO fact checker as of Jul 20 , 2012

    ” So we are at an impasse. Because of the ambiguity, there is considerable room for interpretation of known facts. Going forward, unless new evidence emerges, on a case-by-case basis we may withhold the awarding of Pinocchios when the claim rests mostly on the question of when Romney stopped managing Bain Capital.”

    that in the biz is an appology on Keeslar’s part since he now has egg on his face over giving romney a pass on Bain pre the Boston Globe busting out the paperwork which Keeslar admittedly never checked. He simply took Romney campaign claim and that he couldn’t believe romney would blatantly lie or possibly commit a felony

    Reality has a liberal bias

  18. jamal49 says

    President Obama’s inability to speak precisely has caused him problems in the past. Mr. Obama needs to tighten up his oratory and pay attention to what he is saying. Mr. Obama also needs to get rid of the very annoying habit that too many politicians are using these days, which is dropping the “g” on participles and gerunds. It always sounds phony and makes one long for the days when politicians spoke intelligently instead of “dumbing-down” their speeches to the public.

  19. Raul in Miami says

    Just here:
    If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

    Obama may have missed a few words – but he said and it speaks volumes as to what he truly believes. I don’t care if the fault of the speech writer – he, like Romney and any other public speaker, need to read it first. Now it’s public and all the backstroking in the world will not change that.

  20. Obamalounge says

    “He didn’t invent iron ore and blast furnaces, did he?”

    “Who?”

    “Rearden. He didn’t invent smelting and chemistry and air compression. He couldn’t have invented his Metal but for thousands and thousands of other people. His Metal! Why does he think it’s his? Why does he think it’s his invention? Everybody uses the work of everybody else. Nobody ever invents anything.”

    She said, puzzled, “But the iron ore and all those other things were there all the time. Why didn’t anybody else make that Metal, but Mr. Rearden did?”

    —- Atlas Shrugged -1957, Ayn Rand

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