1. Bill says

    LIP SERVICE. It’s been more than 80 years since the NFL was formed yet still no openly gay player. The NFL has a problem with gay people they need to address. They need to stop putting out these videos to placate passive gay people who will think they are somehow brave for even mentioning gay people.

  2. Patrick says

    ^^ Ummm Bill. No professional NHL, MLA, NBA player has come out either. I think these announcements along with the You Can Play PSA’s go far in promoting the idea that being gay and a professional athlete is possible. Only when gay professional athletes see that their teammates aren’t as bigoted as we make them out to be will they be comfortable coming out.

  3. jamal49 says

    Uh, Bill, honey? Chill, for crissakes. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. That the NFL is doing this at all is a breakthrough. It’s not just LGBT youth that get bullied or stepped on in those delicate adolescent years. It’s straight kids, too. Regardless, young people need to know that they can transcend the bullying and the cruelty that children sometimes inflict on each other. This is a good thing, Bill. Get a grip and don’t be so goddam negative all the time.

  4. Rick says

    @Bill You people kill me. We have lost 33 consecutive referendums and not won any. We haven’t even been able to pass a jobs discrimination bill through Congresses with overwhelming Democratic majorities in 4 decades worth of trying. There are hardly any prominent openly gay men in the business world other than entrepreneurs and a few fashion designers……ditto for just about any other field of significance.

    We constitute 3% of the population.

    So where exactly does your apparent notion that you/we can dictate terms to anybody come from?

    Change takes time. Many people are making a good-faith effort to change their attitudes, even though there is absolutely nothing in it for them. Nothing, whatsoever…..this being a good example.

    So any sensible person would encourage the change and engage with those trying to make that change instead of being an obnoxious little b!tch the way you just did, which accomplishes absolutely nothing but to alienate people.

    It requires an enormous effort on the part of most straight men to accept homosexuality since their notions of masculinity have traditionally been defined by the sexual pursuit and “conquest” of women as a basic criterion of masculinity. And gay men have given them, quite frankly, very little reason to want to change, displaying attitudes like you just did and continuing to behave like a bunch of little pseudo-women in many cases……..but despite this, they are still trying to change so that homosexuality can be accommodated in the prevailing male culture.

    And if we do not meet them halfway, then all our hopes for real, permanent cultural change that will result in our full acceptance into the social mainstream will be lost.

    This represents a golden opportunity–please don’t blow it by being stupid and acting like a prissy, catty little woman.


  5. XoMoDe says

    Tacky. I wish they hadn’t done this. I happen to be a 49ers/Whitner fan….and this does nothing to endear me to the team or him. Just play the game and leave the coddling/pandering PSAs alone.

  6. jason says

    A lot of NFL players are gay or bisexual, bisexual in particular. However, you need to remember that America is opposed to male-male sexuality in general. Conservatives oppose it because it contravenes the Bible. Liberals oppose it because it offends women by bringing men into direct competition with women for the affections of men.

    Women are particularly homophobic towards the concept of male-male sexuality being mainstreamed in the form of the male bisexual concept. However, if male-male sexuality is “queeny and confinable”, which is what the gay concept represents these days, women aren’t as offended.

  7. Icebloo says

    The players involved in this are a brave bunch of guys. They will be attacked for doing this so I thank them for taking that risk to show support for us. They didn’t have to do it.

  8. jsb says

    I was with you until paragraphs 5, 6 & 8. You just had to get your, “obnoxious little b!tch”, “prissy, catty little woman”, comments in there.

    So sad, you just can’t help yourself can you?

    And I can’t help but think that 3% is low.

  9. SoLeftImRight says

    I think this is excellent. I grew up in the Bay Area, and the fan base for all SF (/Oakland/SJ Sharks) teams is quite wide. Despite the perceived liberal bias of San Francisco itself, the entire area needs as much of this as it can get.

    I can’t even begin to imagine how much it would have meant to me as a kid to see a quick spot like this being played at Candlestick for a 49ers game. I will only criticize it for a minute to say that I would have liked to see Alex Smith or someone like Frank Gore (who has been known to make obnoxious comments before) step up, but I am not bent out of shape by it.

    Congrats to the 49ers for getting involved. If any city’s team should be a part of ending LGBT discrimination, it is the team that represents San Francisco!

  10. andrew says

    Am I the only one who wishes that Jason, Rick, Little Kiwi, Ratbastard, Icebloo and other constant demagogues would stop posting on this site? Without their rants we could have some real good rational discussions.

  11. andrew says

    I don’t think that there are a lot of gay men in team sports. For whatever reason gays seem to be more numerous in individual sports like: track & field, swimming, diving, gymnastics etc.

  12. Diogenes Arktos says

    @Andrew: I don’t think we can claim that gays are any more numerous in individual sports. I just think it’s easier for them to come out. Visit regularly for more coverage of gay sports – especially about the two gay “olympics” and the variety of gay leagues of team sports.

  13. andrew says

    @Diogenes: Of course I can’t prove my point. However, as a high school teacher/counselor for 35 years, my oservation is that many gay boys fell like outsiders and tend to shy away from team sports. If they are athletically inclined they tend to compete in the more individually oriented sports.

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