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If You Prefer Your Gay Magazines without Rainbow Flags or Men With Chiseled Abs: VIDEO

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Then Hello Mr., a start-up publication out of Australia for "men who date men" which is seeking funding on Kickstarter might appeal to you.

They write:

What you won't find here are articles tagged with recycled stock imagery of multicolored flags waving in pride, hand-painted demands for equal rights, or idolized midsections of seemingly flawless men. If that's your thing, there is a sea of glossy mags filled with those images readily available at your local newsstand. We believe that Hello Mr. can address the need, felt by the modern majority, to rebrand 'gay' and move beyond any unrepresentative depictions defined by our past.

Check out their video, AFTER THE JUMP...

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  1. so...they don't want a heterosexual spin, but they don't want a homosexual one, either?

    this is my point. these boys don't know what they want. they only know what they don't want.

    i stopped that nonsense when i was 17. i encourage anyone else to follow suit. life's so much more enjoyable when you're not giving excuses to avoid joining the human race.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 3:28:46 PM


  2. Ok i think some of you are being rather aggressive about this and are yourselves being negative. Ita almost like you think you have gay right, and everyone else is 'wrong'.

    Im an average guy, but i dont 'hate' the more flamboyant side of gay culture, and I dont believe most average gay guys do. We arent all 'Rick' (yes i have seen his posts). I like teh popular image of gay culture, but im not 'it' and im not attracted to it.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 3:29:51 PM


  3. I've never felt included in any subculture, especially gay subculture. And frankly, at this point in my life, I no longer see any reason to be. I've never felt like any particular group "spoke" to me or faithfully represented my identity.

    And through it all, I have never felt motivated to be different, or to set myself apart from others. I am who I am not because I feel the need to be trendy or exclusive, but because that's just how my life has played itself out.

    I don't begrudge these other gays their sense of mutual inclusion. I don't demand that they NOT create their own societal niches. If they want to perpetuate a certain standard of appearance, style, status, iconography, and behavior, fine. But what DOES irritate me is how each group after the other does so while breathlessly proclaiming to be the voice of those who are not represented. First was the white, athletically-built gays. Then the bears (again, white) did it. Now the hipster gays are doing it.

    I find this sort of compartmentalization incredibly stupid, vain, hypocritical, and self-serving. It all reeks of the same image-consciousness, just with different images as the "ideal."

    Posted by: atomic | Nov 12, 2012 3:32:39 PM


  4. Francis, i could BLOW you for that :)

    Yes. They can't even say Gay. Until the insecure men who refuse to say it get over their issues and EMBRACE it, they will continue their own self-imposed Exile from the Great Kingdom of Gays.

    we're not stopping them from entering. their insecurities are stopping them.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 3:33:34 PM


  5. Did you notice, there are no Gay people over the age of 35 years. After 35 years of life you don't matter. Hello Mr. no one over 30 need apply.

    Posted by: Sargon Bighorn | Nov 12, 2012 3:33:45 PM


  6. LittleKiwi, this is the problem, what is a homosexual spin according to you??

    To me its just that you replace the females with other men, nothing else is implied.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 3:34:10 PM


  7. actually, JustMe, by your own words THEY are the ones who are "not gay enough" - because they (you?) refuse to identify as gay.

    we're not saying "you're not gay enough for not liking _______"

    THEY are saying "we don't like _____, so we're not gay. we're just average dudes who like other dudes"

    i stopped saying that cowardly nonsense when i was a teenager.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 3:35:11 PM


  8. Im more than happy to call myself gay, but like it or not gay doesn't just mean homosexual to most people. The problem isnt really us, its other people who assume that means something that it need not.

    Ive been called a 'crap' gay because im not into fashion and cant give make-up tips. It doesnt make me hate those that are like that. Rather than attacking us, maybe you should educate the heteros that think we should. I certainly do.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 3:41:49 PM


  9. They're also planning a hybrid of "Hello Kitty" and "Sailor Moon". It's going to be called "Hello Sailor".

    Posted by: Anastasia Beaverhausen | Nov 12, 2012 3:45:03 PM


  10. ...so, you, JustMe, need to read a magazine that has nothing "gay" in it, but in the place where there'd be female models there will instead be male ones?

    that sounds incredibly stupid.

    if you can't say GAY then you need to work on it. nobody in the "gay" communities is distancing themselves from you. you're distancing themselves from them, due to a refusal to check your baggage at the closet door.

    as long as the "i'm not like those gays" gays refuse to identify as gay, their hoped-for seismic shift in the world will never come.

    gay and proud folks aint gonna slink away into the darkness. so either come join us in the sun, or spend another few years complaining about it miserably, and anonymously, on the internet.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 3:45:57 PM


  11. or, gays like you could take the advice i took, and the lesson i learned as a teenager: Stop Caring What Straight Idiots Think.


    seriously.

    you show me an "i'm not like those gays" homosexual and i'll show you a boy who's still looking over his shoulder every bloody day.

    i'm not particularly into fashion nor could i apply makeup to save my life. and yet, nobody has said i'm not gay enough. and if they did, i don't think i'd care. i stopped living my life by other's limitations a long long time ago, buddyboy.

    but you're wrong - the problem isn't that "other people think gay means ________", it's that insecure gay men care way too much about what those people think.

    take a lesson from the outcasts of society, boys. learn not to give a f**k.

    a gay magazine that's not all about being gay.

    what is this, GOProud Monthly?

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 3:53:54 PM


  12. just to be as clear as possible:

    "men who date men"

    "multicolored flags waving in pride"

    text.book.

    this isn't about being yourself. this is entirely about living in fear of what Straight Bigots Think About Gay People.

    and unless someone can, for once, intelligently articulate with specifics what is inherently harmful about Rainbow iconography then there's no way around that.

    why do some gays hate the rainbow? because it's "f@ggy" - or something. something the straight @ssholes in your life said, that you swallowed whole, and regurgitated. it's like every intelligent poster has correctly called-out: this isn't about expanding diversity, it's about closing more doors, out of insecurity.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 4:00:40 PM


  13. '...so, you, JustMe, need to read a magazine that has nothing "gay" in it, but in the place where there'd be female models there will instead be male ones?

    that sounds incredibly stupid.'

    Why does it? Your refusal to believe that there are well adjusted gay guys like that out there is stupid. Actually a mag like that would contain 'gay' things, the things being men who like other men, thats gay if you hadnt noticed..

    You keep saying that we are being divisive, but thats exactly what you are doing as well. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder about it and as such have no sense of balanced perspective.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 4:06:54 PM


  14. I just ignore anything with rainbow flags whether its stores or bars or mags. Rainbow flags usually are a good sign that what ever it is isnt for me

    Posted by: Homo Genius | Nov 12, 2012 4:08:54 PM


  15. Nothing wrong with creating and selling a product that has an audience. I support. Well done.

    Posted by: ERIK M. | Nov 12, 2012 4:15:48 PM


  16. you sound like you're describing a porno mag, JustMe. no "gay culture", just "men who like other men" uh....what? ok. wow. sure.

    and i don't believe there are well-adjusted "gays like that" because well-adjusted gay men don't base their sense of identity of self-worth on What Straight People Are Thinking Of Them.

    i don't have the chip on my shoulder. my gay @ss has been Out and proud since highschool :)

    i can't be being divisive because i'm actually not telling anyone how to be. they're telling themselves, and others, that they're "different" somehow. they're not.

    the gays who don't identify as gay are more than welcome to join us in the real world. alas, as homo genius (HA!) has just proven, it seems some grown men never got over their crippling fear of rainbows ;-)


    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 4:16:28 PM


  17. There are zero well-adjusted gay men who actually refuse to identify as gay. In fact, just typing that, it's an obvious oxymoron. If you're well-adjusted as a gay man then why run away from saying you're gay? Please.

    Oh, and I would be remiss if I didn't add this.........loving the BJ reference directed to me Kiwi :)

    Posted by: Francis | Nov 12, 2012 4:19:09 PM


  18. LittleKiwi you ARE telling me how to be. I have already said i dont hate any gay culture, but you are telling me I must 'be' it, whatever 'it' is (you havent defined 'it' yet). I am fairly average, but im not trying to fit in and i dont care what anyone thinks. You seem to think that any gay man that isnt displaying his 'gayness' 24/7 is deliberately hiding it. Why do you think that? Are you saying that its not possible to be a happy gay guy that is just average? Remember 'average' means in the middle, its not camp as christmas, or fake macho idiot.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 4:23:01 PM


  19. The problem with this mag is that its fallen for the gay=camp meme.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 4:26:18 PM


  20. Remember LittleKiwi, im not defending this mag, the more I read about it, the more I dislike it. The problem i have wit hyou is tht you dont seem to understand the diffeence between 'anti' (which this mag seems to be) and 'not into'.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 4:31:45 PM


  21. JustMe, DUDE, breathe and see with clarity - the gays with the chip on their shoulder are the gays who are verbally reinforcing a lie, to themselves and others, that they're "not like those other gays"

    well-adjusted gay people don't pay any heed to what some idiot thinks "gay" means, nor do they base their sense of identity on "not being" something to someone.

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 4:33:10 PM


  22. Being gay is not just a life -- it's a lifestyle. It's about time there's a magazine showing gay men how to be gay and have lifestyle goals to aspire to.

    Rainbows are so overdone.

    We have arrived. Being gay is not just a journey, it's a destination.

    (This mag will help you get there, Little Kiwi.)

    Posted by: I like the idea | Nov 12, 2012 4:34:45 PM


  23. @justme

    Average to what. Heteronormative standards? Guess what you're gay which automatically makes you not average no matter how you act because the "average" person would be about 90% Herero.

    Posted by: Not that Rob | Nov 12, 2012 4:36:02 PM


  24. actually, i've not told you how to be. if you insist i have feel free to copy and paste it :D

    i've never once said what you claim i have. why? because i don't believe.

    i also, as an openly gay and unafraid individual, know that there's actually no such thing as "broadcasting your gayness" -that's a meaningless buzz-term made up by gay cowards and repeated by their fellow closet-dwellers.

    of course it's possible to be a happy gay person who is "average" (mediocre? unexceptional? boring?)

    you'll know the happily-average people by their refusal to complain non-average gays and perceptions of gay. because they're happy being average.

    i'm neither camp as christmas nor uber-macho. but i'm the furthest thing from average.

    i dunno. click my name, see my link.

    if you're advocating for a gay magazine for those gay men who don't have appreciations for the camp aesthetic (or wit, while we're at it) then sure, i'm sure there's a need. even boring people deserve reading materials! :)

    Posted by: LittleKiwi | Nov 12, 2012 4:38:44 PM


  25. Sorry, but you really do have issues LittleKiwi, you just seem to be reading whatever you want to into my posts because your responses to them do not make any sense.

    Posted by: JustMe | Nov 12, 2012 4:39:45 PM


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