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  1. gr8guyca says

    1: Armie Hammer is the hottest guy around. Period.

    2: Looks like a typical Bruckheimer over-the-top action movie.

    3: How can Johnny Depp playing a Native American not be offensive at some level?

  2. JohnAGJ says

    @GR8GUYCA: Johnny Depp claims otherwise – “Tonto’s treatment especially bugged him because Depp had always been told his family was part Indian. ‘I guess I have some Native American somewhere down the line,’ he says. ‘My great grandmother was quite a bit of Native American, she grew up Cherokee or maybe Creek Indian. Makes sense in terms of coming from Kentucky, which is rife with Cherokee and Creek.'”
    http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/05/08/johnny-depp-tonto-lone-ranger/

    Even if Depp has no such heritage, so what? He’s an actor portraying a character. How he does that is what is important, not that he has a “proper” bloodline. It would be no more offensive to me than Denzel Washington as Don Pedro of Aragon in the 1993 film “Much Ado About Nothing” (he did a superb job IMO) or Angel Coulby as Guinevere in the Brit series “Merlin”.

  3. jomicur says

    Was I supposed to be laughing out loud at this? From the faux-serious tone to Depp’s ludicrous makeup and bird hat to the cartoonish special effects, this is the silliest thing I’ve seen in a long time.

  4. gr8guyca says

    @johnagj:

    I agree with you about Denzel in “Much Ado”, but when is the last time that a white man played Othello in black face? Many people would find that offensive.

    There are certain roles and races that are more sensitive than others. This may be due to the way that race has been treated in the past – or, rather, mistreated.

    I was not aware of Johnny Depp’s heritage. That certainly makes him appropriate for this role. Of course, there are still some Pirate-Americans who are upset about Depp’s portrayal of them
    in “Pirates of the Caribbean.”

  5. JohnAGJ says

    “I agree with you about Denzel in ‘Much Ado’, but when is the last time that a white man played Othello in black face? Many people would find that offensive.”

    Of course we’re talking about a late 16th century play that is bound to offend someone (remember Shylock?). The same could be said of literary efforts of much of the world of that era, well from what we know about. Denzel played the Don without “white face” and did an admirable job IMO, so I see no reason why a white man cannot play someone of another race without the make-up. Period costumes perhaps, although in some cases they’d be pretty funny-looking and would have to stretch their acting skills quite a bit to pull it off. But then Denzel did it in his role and he’s not the only one.

    “There are certain roles and races that are more sensitive than others. This may be due to the way that race has been treated in the past – or, rather, mistreated.”

    Perhaps, but while such sensitivities should be taken into account it’s not a barrier to an actor who has the skill to pull it off IMO.

    “I was not aware of Johnny Depp’s heritage. That certainly makes him appropriate for this role. Of course, there are still some Pirate-Americans who are upset about Depp’s portrayal of them
    in ‘Pirates of the Caribbean.'”

    Meh. I knew what Depp was doing the minute I first saw his portrayal of Sparrow, even though I couldn’t remember at the time Keith Richards’ name. Depp was brilliant in the role and his performance stole the whole series.

  6. gregory brown says

    I wish someone could provide us with some more detailed and updated info about the star of the last attempt at this venture: Klinton Spilsbury.
    There are so many lurid rumors about that shoot and his behavior on and off set. Bits and pieces can be put together from the Net but nothing is really detailed nor trustworthy.

  7. Inor says

    @GR8GUYCA, in re.: Pirate-Americans. I don’t think big bankers or shifty businessmen really care who portrays them in movies, as long as the film’s profitable.

  8. gr8guyca says

    @ johnagj

    Without getting into a long analysis of Elizabethan racial and religious stereotypes, I would disagree that Othello could be played by a white man. Part of the dramatic tension between Othello, Iago, and Desdemona is the racial difference that makes Othello feel like an outsider. Interestingly, in 1997, I saw Patrick Stewart play Othello in an all-black cast. That is, in some ways, true to the original emotional intent.

    As for “Pirate-Americans” – it was a joke, of course. If you noticed the credits at the end of the movie, it states that, “No pirates were harmed in the making of this motion picture. Any resemblance to current pirates, dead or non-living, is purely accidental.”

  9. Zlick says

    The tone looks a tad too silly for me, but I would not expect realistic seriousness for The Lone Ranger. Depp is bugging me (he usually does, post Pirates I), but I’ll bite for just about anything with Armie Hammer.

    I think whether an actor plays a race-inappropriate character is best determined on a case-by-case basis. The white actors playing Asian in the recent Cloud Atlas, for example, were offensive in every way imaginable. I’m willing to give The Lone Ranger a wait-and-see. And you can’t judge a film by its trailers – – but this one was better than the last.

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