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British Archbishop Compares Marriage Equality To Orwellian Plot

NicholsCatholic leaders in England were all about using their Christmas addresses to rain some grinch-like hate on marriage equality.

First there was Bishop Mark Davies and his unimaginative comparisons of Hitler and LGBT advocates; and now we have Archbishop of Westminster Vincent Nichols, who has been using his Christmas greetings to claim that Prime Minister David Cameron's plan to include same-sex couples in marriage laws is a "shambles."

Nichols first laid the groundwork in his Christmas sermon, praising "the love of husband and wife, which is creative of new human life," and declaring, "Sometimes sexual expression can be without the public bond of the faithfulness of marriage and its ordering to new life."

"Even governments mistakenly promote such patterns of sexual intimacy as objectively to be approved and even encouraged among the young," he said.

Later, in an interview with the BBC, Nichols took his argument to the next level, saying that the plan, "from a democratic point of view," is a "shambles."

"There was no announcement in any party manifesto, no Green Paper, no statement in the Queen's Speech. And yet here we are on the verge of primary legislation," he said.

"From a democratic point-of-view, it's a shambles. George Orwell would be proud of that maneuver, I think the process is shambolic."

Well, on that note, and with regard to both Nichols and Davies' comments, a quote from Orwel himself, "As with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents."

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  1. @D C Arnold: unfortunately they are right on message. They believe in the biblical god Yahweh who is the murderous and wicked tribal god of the ancient Israelites. You know the god who drowned almost all the people on earth for their "sins", killed all the children of Sodom for the "sins" of their fathers, killed 70,000 people because he was angry that David took a census, punished David for his tryst with Bathsheba by killing the baby, had his people kill the man caught gathering wood on the Sabbath, told his followers to kill all the living things in the towns that they conquered etc etc etc . The biblical god yahweh makes Stalin, Hitler, Mao et al look like choir boys!!!!!

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 28, 2012 1:26:27 AM

  2. The greatest Spin in human history is taking the murderous and wicked tribal god Yahweh of the ancient Israelites and spinning him into Our Heavenly Father. Not even the evil genious of a Karl Rove could even dream of accomplishing that. But that is exactly what Christians and Jews have done. They have hundreds of million of people praying to the god who killed hundreds of millions of people, to save them.

    Posted by: andrew | Dec 28, 2012 4:06:43 AM

  3. @DannyEastVillage: Not exactly. There have been Boswell-haters from day one. The typical argument was from the fact that they didn't like his conclusions, therefore everything preceding them had to be wrong. End of statement. There has been some scholarly questioning of his work (e.g. by Fr Raymond Brown on Greek lexicography) but not enough to discredit the broad thrust of his argument. FWIW - His work had a great impact on my coming out.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Dec 28, 2012 5:48:41 AM

  4. @Andrew: I know we are a few decades apart and as such had very different religious experiences growing up. Please seek some therapy for what appears to be unquenchable anger. In the brief time I've been following TR, your tirades seem to have gotten worse.

    *ANY* religious documents dating from the periods of the composition of the source documents of Old Testament would be the same. So what? There were plenty of centuries for natural development (=spin) to take place. Just as there have been plenty of centuries since the Code of Hammurabi to the present. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that trial by ordeal (hardly a uniquely Judeo-Christian concept) was still practiced.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Dec 28, 2012 6:07:38 AM

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