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NRA's Wayne LaPierre Sticks To His Guns On 'Meet The Press': VIDEO


Wayne LaPierre guaranteed the NRA a place on the fringe today.

After two days of outrage over the NRA leader's assertion that we need more guns in schools to stop another Sandy Hook-type massacre, LaPierre went on Meet the Press not to amend his statement or take a softer tone. No, he appeared today to make similar claims, even as host David Gregory, growing increasingly flabbergasted by LaPierre's defiant gun worship, gave him plenty of opportunities to introduce some humanity into his argument.

Mediaite summarizes one of their more tense exchanges, when LaPierre equated gun controls with morality laws and disagreed that removing assault weapons from streets would save lives.

After pressing LaPierre further on why he is unwilling to concede gun control measures as one part of the potential solution, the NRA leader responded, "you can’t legislate morality … legislation works on the law-abiding, it doesn’t work on criminals."

"If it’s possible to reduce the loss of life, you’re willing to try [gun control]?" Gregory repeatedly asked before holding up a high-capacity magazine of ammunition. "Isn’t it possible that if we got rid of these … isn’t it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like New Haven?" Gregory pushed.

"I don’t think that’s going to make one difference," LaPierre answered. "There are so many ways to evade that." Unconvinced, Gregory hammered LaPierre over his evasiveness on the subject, demanding to know whether he’d be willing to try such restrictions if, by his own logic, it could possibly save more lives.

“I don’t buy your argument one bit,” LaPierre said.

It's truly incredible: over the span of three days, LaPierre took his group, one of the most respected, powerful and sought after voices in gun politics and turned it into a shrieking, raging outlier.

Oh, as for those New York Post and New York Daily News headlines labeling him a "gun nut" and "crazy," LaPierre had this to say, "If it’s crazy to call for putting armed police in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy." As you wish.

Watch video of LaPierre's entire Meet the Press interview AFTER THE JUMP.

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  1. So these guards are gonna all be carrying assault weapons themselves? 'cause if not, aren't they gonna be seriously outgunned by a nut who shows up with his own personal assault gun arsenal? Or what if, like Columbine, there's more than one shooter? So then the guard's outgunned AND out-numbered? And what about the many campuses that are large enough or spread out enough that one guard isn't gonna be able to run fast enough to prevent a shooting that's already taking place? Or what if two shooters are each at a different point on campus? etc., etc., etc., etc., etc.

    If we follow LaPierre's stupid line-of-reasoning, then what happens is we throw billions of dollars into hiring guards for every school. And then there's another shooting. And then LaPierre holds another press conference saying the problem is we don't have ENOUGH armed guards in schools. And we can repeat that cycle endlessly until there are more cops than students on every single campus everywhere, or we can tell that corrupt nutbag LaPierre to go take a flyin' leap.

    Posted by: bobbyjoe | Dec 23, 2012 5:12:08 PM

  2. The key to enacting real gun control is legislative. As long as the NRA can tell Congressmen that they will have a political price to pay for supporting gun control, the NRA will win. I have worked on Capitol Hill and I know that the survival that Congressmen care most about is their own.

    To nullify that requires an equal political price on the other side. A well-funded and well-organized anti-gun lobby needs to tell Congressmen that they will LOSE an election because they vote down gun control. They must know that opposing gun control will bring an end to their elected career.

    I hope that Bloomberg will use his financial resources - which he has said he will do - to create an organization that will balance the influence and clout of the NRA. That will change the Congress and that will save lives. They need to create ads and a political ground force that will mobilize the sensible, rational people into action.

    @ Brad & George:

    I hope that you are being sarcastic or ironic. If not, I truly feel sorry for you. The Sun does not revolve around the Earth. The world did not end according to the Mayan calendar. You can believe any myth that you would like. But if you think that tightening gun ownership rules, eliminating assault weapons, and banning larger bullet clips won't save lives, you are seriously misguided.

    Posted by: gr8guyca | Dec 23, 2012 6:00:39 PM

  3. Why are we pretending like the NRA's response is a surprise? Do people not remember that they refused to cancel a gun expo in a neighboring city in the aftermath of Columbine? The NRA has been a "shrieking, raging, outlier" for more than two decades. Let's not pretend they have suddenly become extreme in their pro-gun views. T

    Posted by: shawnthesheep | Dec 23, 2012 6:41:39 PM

  4. @Ninong: What elementary school teachers with a gun will do "better" at is killing the kiddies via gun accidents due to a gun being in each classroom, near children at an age when they are very good at getting into things they should not get into. Maybe they'd be able to save some kids by shooting a lunatic with a gun (assuming they managed to shoot the lunatic first, should he deign to show up), but then you have the continual risk of that gun's presence resulting in an accident. You might end up losing more children from accidents than from lunatics, due to there being so few of them.

    Regarding Ninong's comment, "Yeah, right! Let's have a dozen people in the audience all open fire at the same time -- in the dark -- to take out a shooter who was armed to the teeth and wearing body armor from the top of his head to the tip of his toes," it is even worse that that. If the shooter thinks he is going to be killed no matter what, the optimal strategy is to start shooting from the middle of the theater instead of the door. As all the gun nuts heroically stand up and shoot, they won't notice until it is too late that they've been duped into forming the proverbial circular firing squad.

    Posted by: Bill | Dec 23, 2012 7:41:42 PM

  5. As the parent of a first grader, this tragedy has really hit home. I'm not sure that I could survive the loss these parents have experienced. In my mind, there is nothing more tragic than losing a child in such a violent way. However, it's difficult to imagine armed guards patrolling the hallways at my son's elementary school, and I highly doubt that that's what these grieving parents expect or want. The picture of an armed guard carrying military weapons, walking amongst children's art everywhere is a picture of a truly sick society. The thought of my son's young, petite, gentle and peaceful first grade teacher packing heat is equally disturbing. Where there are small children and guns, there are shooting accidents. Mixing more guns with more small children will mean MORE shooting accidents. There was a time when the NRA's mission was about gun safety and hunting rights. I hope this latest lunatic ranting shows them for the evil death facilitators that they have become.

    Posted by: Boone68 | Dec 23, 2012 10:10:33 PM

  6. This is insanity. This reminds me of an old episode of "All In The Family", when Archie Bunker goes on the local news to offer a commentary regarding a rash of recent hijacks of airliners. His solution? As nutty as this idiot...arming everyone to the teeth. Sure, it may cause a loon pause, but what if the armed passengers are WORSE shots than the hijacker would be? What about those "dull knives in the drawer"? How would we know that everyone who is now armed would be sane and safe with firearms? I cannot believe someone did not pull this nut aside after Friday's disgrace, but they really dropped the ball on today's show. This is unbelievable...if, I guess there is one bright spot, at least LaPierre is consistent in his flip-flopping for him!

    Posted by: millerbeach | Dec 24, 2012 1:04:46 AM

  7. The NRA raises a good point. Why wasn't there security at the school? Why were the doors wide open to anyone who could just walk in? Yes we need security at schools, even if it means a policeman on duty at all times. Can we not afford to pay for policeman and a system of security at our schools?

    Posted by: Bill Michael | Dec 24, 2012 4:25:40 AM

  8. Here in Finland we've also had few school and other shootings during the last few years. The guns people get license for here are mainly for hunting, and at the moment the law is that if you have a gun at home you either have to keep it in the locked locker or keep it dismantled around the house. They are probably going to make the laws even tougher in the near future, and make the locked locker mandatory for every gun owner. There's even been calls to making it illegal to keep guns at home, and you'd be forced to keep all the guns at the hunting clubs you are part of, but this hasn't gotten lot of support.

    It used to be pretty easy to get a rifle license for shooting but the school shootings have made it really hard. You have to get approval from the police and they are apparently pretty tough on giving licenses nowadays. Couple of years ago a police woman approved a license for a young man who later shot many people, and the police got into trouble for that.

    In my view gun control is big part of making mass shootings as hard as possible, and the views of that NRA guy are quite appalling. The reasons why some young men end up becoming mass murderers are probably quite not that clear but personally I feel that at least some of them are sociopaths, who might end up killing people whether they had guns or not, but at least making it extremely hard for them to get guns would be one obstacle for them.

    Posted by: kode | Dec 24, 2012 4:32:54 AM

  9. @ BILL MICHAEL. Your comment is one of the dumbest on here. Do you NOT know how to read? You're an idiot. Keep quiet and let the adults carry on this conversation.

    Posted by: ARK | Dec 24, 2012 8:19:13 AM

  10. "Ed Lowrie:Interesting fact is that a rehash of the gun ban won't work because it didn't work the first time. Another fact is that states with reasonable conceal carry rules have low murder rates while those with strict laws have higher ones. Chicago has very stirct gun laws and the highest murder rate in the country."

    The reason individual state gun laws doesn't work so well is because people find loop-holes around it i.e gun shows and inter-state commerce. Most of guns used to commit murders in urban areas like Newark, NYC, Chicago are purchased from states with very lax gun laws. So in the end it doesn't matter much if Chicago has very tough gun laws because the bad guys can just drive next door to Kentucky and Indiana and get the guns they need.

    What we need is a federal law with iron teeth that bans assault weapons and gun show loop-holes.

    Posted by: Jonn.w | Dec 24, 2012 8:57:05 AM

  11. The Not Really American gun nutcases should not be given this exposure. You are allowing the criminally insane a platform to spout such nonesense. Glad I stole from them when I was a hired membership processor.

    Posted by: DC Arnold | Dec 24, 2012 8:42:53 PM

  12. Gin & Tonic Eddie, causes me to misspell

    Posted by: DC Arnold | Dec 24, 2012 8:44:22 PM

  13. I wonder what the gentleman would have said if his daughter had been one of the teachers, or his grandchild had been one of the students killed. I think the same questions could be asked of every Senator and Representative in Washington.

    Posted by: Jerry6 | Dec 25, 2012 11:27:22 PM

  14. if any type of disaster happens that causes mass rioting and chaos. you're damn right i want to be armed to the teeth. Sit back and lets the masses come and take from you what they want without a fight.

    Posted by: Joe | Dec 26, 2012 11:08:57 AM

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