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Britain Plans to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage with Rules That Make It Illegal for Anglican Church to Marry Gay Couples

Same-sex marriage will be legal next year in England and Wales, according to a plan put forth by David Cameron's administration, but the Anglican Church will be forbidden to marry same-sex couples:

MillerMinister for Women and Equalities Maria Miller said in the Dec. 11 release that the legislation is designed to create “watertight protections for religious organizations” that do not want to conduct same-sex marriages, but will allow them to “opt in” if they so choose. However, the legislation will make it illegal for the two Anglican churches to opt in.

Here's the government's press release:

Following a Government consultation, legislation allowing same-sex marriage will be brought forward next year. The proposals are designed to create watertight protections for religious organisations that do not want to conduct same-sex marriages, but will allow them to ‘opt in’ if they so choose.

The historic move will mean that for the first time:

same-sex couples will be able to get married in civil ceremonies; 

religious organisations who chose to ‘opt in’ will be able to conduct marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples; and

a ‘quadruple lock’ of measures in domestic legislation would protect religious freedom, putting beyond doubt the possibility of successful challenge through domestic or European courts.

The Government reiterated today its absolute commitment that no religious organisation, or individual minister of religion, would be forced to conduct marriage ceremonies for same-sex couples.   European law already puts protection for religious freedom beyond doubt (under Article 9 of the European Convention on Human Rights) but the Government intends to go even further and put in place a ‘quadruple lock’ in domestic law.

The legal locks, which will be on the face of any primary legislation, are:

no religious organisation, or individual minister, could be compelled to marry same-sex couples (or to permit this to happen on their premises);

it will be unlawful for religious organisations, or their ministers, to marry same-sex couples unless the organisation’s governing body has expressly opted in to do so (and that would mean the religious organisation itself opting in, the presiding minister having consented and  the premises in which the marriage is to be conducted having been registered);

the Equality Act 2010 would be amended to ensure that no discrimination claim could be brought against religious organisations or individual minister for refusing to marry a same-sex couple (or allowing their premises to be used for this purpose); and

the bill will explicitly state that it would be illegal for the Church of England and the Church in Wales to marry same-sex couples, or to opt-in to do so.  Canon law – which bans the marriage of same-sex couples – will continue to apply.  That means that it would require a change in both primary and Canon law before Church of England and Church in Wales would be able to opt in to conduct same - sex marriages.

The plans are making both sides unhappy, the NYT reports:

The proposed British compromise looked unlikely to quell opposition within Prime Minister David Cameron’s Conservative Party from those who reject the concept of same-sex marriage on religious, social or moral grounds.

The right-wing United Kingdom Independence Party has threatened to exploit divisions which it said threatened to rip apart the Conservatives’ traditional rural base.

“We feel the prime minister’s proposals will present an affront to millions of people in this country for whom this will be the final straw,” Nigel Farage, the UKIP leader, told The Guardian.

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  1. @Diogenes Arktos You talk a good show, but what you say simply does not correspond to my personal experience in the Episcopal Church. Where I come from, essentially no one admitted to being in favor of anything the Episcopal Church did after about 1976. But, the people lacked resolve. To quote Yeats, "The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity." The regular church memebers just looked away while the prayer book was stripped of its beauty; while the traditional ministry was abolished; while an open atheist was tolerated as bishop of Newark Nj. All over the country, priests and laymen did withdraw; but most of the people just put up with the rape of the church. Apparently, the democratic process was perverted. Finally, in the late 2000's the Episcopal Church began to reap what it sewed. Not just parishes, but actual dioceses began to secede. Sadly, ironically, it was gay marriage that finally pushed the "regular people" over the edge.

    Posted by: ErnstRoehm's Ghost | Dec 13, 2012 2:04:44 AM


  2. @ErnstRoehm's Ghost: I write what has been my experience of TEC. Your description sounds right out of the tirades of the Religious Right after the reelection of POTUS. It's easy to claim the democratic process was perverted when you are not on the prevailing side.

    Posted by: Diogenes Arktos | Dec 14, 2012 3:50:39 AM


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  4. I would say AT LEAST 75% of the UK population identifies as the Church of England and Wales so what the hell is the point of introducing gay marriage when the idiot right wing crazy Conservative government has exempted the Church of England and Wales from the law ? It's ABSOLUTE CRAZINESS - especially when 62% of Brits SUPPORT gay marriage and 62% also support MAKING the Church of England and Wales perform gay marriage.

    UK Prime Minister David Cameron has made the biggest mess of this legislation. He is weak, dishonest and ABSOLUTELY USELESS ! I can't wait for him to be defeated at the next election.

    Posted by: Icebloo | Dec 27, 2012 12:59:28 AM


  5. This new law WILL pass thanks to the Labour Party and when the Labour Party next wins power they will change it so that ALL churches are required to treat all of us equally.

    Remember - it was the LABOUR PARTY who brought in ALL of the pro-gay laws to date. ALL OF THEM. TONY BLAIR was the most pro gay Prime Minister of ALL TIME and still is !

    Only the LABOUR PARTY truly supports gay people no matter how the Conservative Party tell you they support us too. The Conservatives have a TERRIBLE record on gay rights - even voting against all the pro gay laws when Tony Blair was in power. That's not centuries ago - it's just a few years ago !

    Conservatives hate gays. They would have us all exterminated if they could. They are not and will not ever be our friends.

    NEVER NEVER NEVER vote Conservative.

    Posted by: Icebloo | Dec 27, 2012 1:06:21 AM


  6. Apparently, it's all about the way the CoE's laws are actually the laws of the land.

    Sometimes the law is an ass. Sometimes, as here, what looks like the law being an ass is an attempt to keep things equal – and the practical results of gay marriage being legally banned for the CofE are exactly the same as the practical results of any other denomination in England having the power to decide for itself.

    Source.

    So this isn't as bad (or as weird) as it first looks.

    TRiG.

    Posted by: Timothy (TRiG) | Jan 2, 2013 5:27:52 PM


  7. Sorry. Link was stripped. Here it is again:

    http://eudaimonaiaclaughter.wordpress.com/2012/12/12/freedom-restriction-and-the-law/

    Posted by: Timothy (TRiG) | Jan 2, 2013 5:28:44 PM


  8. What ignorant hate and bigotry in this thread. It casts the human race in a very bad light. Apart from one decent post backing freedom.

    Cameron is a fascist with no mandate for this bill which he is dishonestly rushing through parliament. Those of his party supporting him are just sucking up to him.

    70% of his party are against him on this matter and the majority of the British people are against it. If it's passed they will be gaoling people who speak against it and people who don't accept it will lose their jobs.

    It's also illegal as the 'law' will only apply to part of the country.

    Posted by: ugj | Feb 5, 2013 6:50:07 AM


  9. What ignorant hate and bigotry in this thread. It casts the human race in a very bad light. Apart from one decent post backing freedom.

    Cameron is a fascist with no mandate for this bill which he is dishonestly rushing through parliament. Those of his party supporting him are just sucking up to him.

    70% of his party are against him on this matter and the majority of the British people are against it. If it's passed they will be gaoling people who speak against it and people who don't accept it will lose their jobs.

    It's also illegal as the 'law' will only apply to part of the country.

    Posted by: ugj | Feb 5, 2013 6:52:03 AM


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