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Argentinian Cardinal Bergoglio Named the New Pope

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Argentinian Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio has been chosen as the new pope.

He will be called Francis.

USA Today:

Couldn't prevent Argentina from becoming the first Latin American country to legalize same-sex marriage or stop its president, Cristina Fernandez, from promoting free contraception and artificial insemination. When Bergoglio argued that gay adoptions discriminate against children, Fernandez compared his tone to "medieval times and the Inquisition."

Bergoglio called gay marriage "the destructive attempt to end God's plan."

Bergoglio began “I write these lines to each of you who are in the four monasteries of Buenos Aires. The people of Argentina will face in the coming weeks, a situation whose outcome may seriously injure the family. This is the bill on marriage for same sex. “

Then he added, “At stake are the lives of many children who are discriminated against in advance by depriving them of human growth that God wanted to given with a father and a mother. At stake is a total rejection of the law of God, engraved in our hearts as well”.

The Archbishop stated flatly “we are not naive: it is not just a political struggle is a destructive attempt to God’s plan. It is not just a bill (this is only the instrument) but a ‘move’ from the Father of Lies that seeks to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

GLAAD President Herndon Graddick on election of New Pope:

"For decades the Catholic hierarchy has been in need of desperate reform. In his life, Jesus condemned gays zero times. In Pope Benedict's short time in the papacy, he made a priority of condemning gay people routinely. This, in spite of the fact, that the Catholic hierarchy had been in collusion to cover up the widespread abuse of children within its care. We hope this Pope will trade in his red shoes for a pair of sandals and spend a lot less time condemning and a lot more time foot-washing."

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  1. He's the Pope, what do you expect?! Do you really think he's going to be an advocate for gay marriage? That is ridiculous.

    Posted by: DJ | Mar 13, 2013 3:57:31 PM


  2. MOZ's - Italians are much more Latin and much more Latino than any Hispanic people or Latin Americans. The majority of Argentinians are of Italian ancestry and the overwhelming majority are white. What do you mean by 'Latino blood'? Hispanics can be of black, Indian, white, or Asian ancestry and any combination of these. Blood does not speak Latin or any other language, but Italian is closer to Latin than Spanish; Italians are much more 'Latino' than Hispanics.

    Posted by: DB | Mar 13, 2013 3:59:55 PM


  3. @DW--Very true. We've had a string of quite conservative Popes since John XXIII. That Bergoglio could become Pope from a College appointed by all conservative Popes is remarkable. And many options existed in Latin America who were *much* more conservative and much more elitist.

    I also kind of agree with LCR JAY. Most of you need to grow up. This is a 76 year old man, who was raised in a very different generation, and under a religion that most of you are clearly unfamiliar with. This is about as much of a break from the last few Popes as you could get. To have someone who at least cares more about helping the poor than about cracking down on nuns or cracking down with doctrinal declarations will be a nice change of pace, I think. Frankly, his anti-gay rhetoric pales in comparison to what many of the other candidates spewed during their lives.

    Posted by: Thomas | Mar 13, 2013 4:01:05 PM


  4. From a Nazi to a collaborator with Argentine death squads.

    And that really is progress.

    Posted by: Varela | Mar 13, 2013 4:02:37 PM


  5. Remember that study that was all over the net last year, showing that homophobic men got the biggest erections over gay porn? The stronger his outward hatred, the bigger his stiffie. And the more completely he refused to acknowledge it, even when shown the data!

    Any bets on the proportional increase this guy gets when he thinks of guy-on-guy action?

    Sardonically yours....

    Posted by: Isy Aweigh | Mar 13, 2013 4:03:30 PM


  6. Business as usual. Did you really expect anything other than that?

    Posted by: Walt NYC | Mar 13, 2013 4:03:45 PM


  7. 13/03/13 = too many threes. No a good omen.

    Posted by: Jeff | Mar 13, 2013 4:03:50 PM


  8. LOL jackfkntwist

    true

    Jesuits believe in withholding info and if you infer wrongly from what they say then its your fault and they never lied

    Posted by: Moz's | Mar 13, 2013 4:07:53 PM


  9. Darn! I'm out $10 in the "name the country" office pool.

    Posted by: anon | Mar 13, 2013 4:08:51 PM


  10. @ JEFF :

    What have you got against "threes"?

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Mar 13, 2013 4:09:45 PM


  11. There was never gonna be a chance in hell (pun intended) that there was going to be a pro gay or pro choice Pope, so don't know why it's even an issue.

    Posted by: blakfoxx | Mar 13, 2013 4:09:53 PM


  12. Bergoglio called gay marriage "the destructive attempt to end God's plan."

    ALRIGHT - now thats what Im talking about!!!! Scrap this Mythical Man-made Gawd's Plan and lets deal with REALITY!

    Posted by: disgusted american | Mar 13, 2013 4:12:05 PM


  13. I fail to understand what this costume wearing psycho has anything to do with people's lives. Religion is the great mind control of all mankind. Its poison, silly, and downright irratating. We need to wake up from this "reality" that this is going to affect us.

    Posted by: Satty | Mar 13, 2013 4:12:27 PM


  14. Please someone explain to me which is the worse sin---Murder, Child molesting or gay marriage?

    Yet which of these is the Catholic Church obsessed with?

    We have to fight fire with fire. We cannot let them off on the issue and lack of responce to Child Molesting.

    Obviously this was a vote to their strengh---South America. Politics never die in the church. Would have been smarted to pick someone from Africa.

    Remember the church is about hate not love otherwise they would be reaching out to those they consider sinners. Isn't this what Jesus did? But I don't consider what I do to be a sin so go figure.

    Posted by: Dawson | Mar 13, 2013 4:13:08 PM


  15. There's a circulated photo of Pope Francis I that reminds me of Leslie Jordan! A new role [model]??

    Posted by: RichB in PS | Mar 13, 2013 4:13:45 PM


  16. I like his positions. Perfect for a Pope. Let the bitches moan.

    Posted by: TJ | Mar 13, 2013 3:39:20 PM


    ahh haaa - yeppers those Bitches aka Alter Boys will be moaning behind closed doors....and so it goes!

    Posted by: disgusted american | Mar 13, 2013 4:14:13 PM


  17. If Francis was/is so concern about 'God's Plan' wouldn't he be distributing the church's wealth on the poor?--------Nahhhh. Easier to control the poor. Isn't this what the church is all about?

    Posted by: Dawson | Mar 13, 2013 4:16:04 PM


  18. Didn't that seem sorta quick? Maybe they just picked this fool to hang it around his neck and let him be the one in charge when the cathlick church finally comes crumbling to the ground and we finally get to see what all the vatican has stuck away in it's basement...

    We barely got a peek in Angels & Demons...

    Posted by: MikeInSanJose | Mar 13, 2013 4:17:00 PM


  19. Welcome the new boss, same as the old boss.

    Good thing I didn't hold my breath expecting the Vatican to elect a more liberal Pope. I'm going to enjoy watching the Catholic Church continue its downward spiral into oblivion.

    Posted by: Firestorm | Mar 13, 2013 4:30:30 PM


  20. http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2013/03/13/habemus-poop/

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Mar 13, 2013 4:39:21 PM


  21. http://i.imgur.com/xkSLEU7.jpg

    Posted by: sam | Mar 13, 2013 4:41:01 PM


  22. Wherever you look the roman cult has deep interconnections with Italian and Spanish fascism and Nazism. That continued after the war. "Gerald Steinacher, a research fellow at Harvard University... (compared) lists of wanted war criminals to travel documents… The documents – which are discussed in Steinacher's book Nazis on the Run: How Hitler's henchmen fled justice – offer a significant insight into Vatican thinking, particularly, because its own archives beyond 1939 are still closed. The Vatican has consistently refused to comment. Steinacher believes the Vatican's help was based on a hoped-for revival of European Christianity and dread of the Soviet Union. But through the Vatican Refugee Commission, war criminals were knowingly provided with false identities." Guardian UK 04 25 2011

    Argentina was one of the favorite destinations for SS and other criminals after the Red Army, with a little help from the US and it's satellite states destroyed the German Reich. "Ratlines were a system of escape routes for Nazis and other fascists fleeing Europe at the end of World War II. These escape routes mainly led toward havens in South America, particularly Argentina, Paraguay, Brazil, Uruguay, Chile, and Bolivia. Other destinations included the United States, Great Britain, Canada and the Middle East. There were two primary routes: the first went from Germany to Spain, then Argentina; the second from Germany to Rome to Genoa, then South America; the two routes "developed independently" but eventually came together to collaborate." Wiki

    In Transatlantic Fascism: Ideology, Violence, and the Sacred in Argentina and Italy, 1919-1945 by Federico Finchelstein he that Argentine nacionalismo was not the wholesale imitation of Italian fascism that Mussolini wished it to be. Argentine nacionalistas conflated Catholicism and fascism, making the bold claim that their movement had a central place in God’s designs for their country. Finchelstein explores the fraught efforts of nationalistas to develop a “sacred” ideological doctrine and political program, and he scrutinizes their debates about Nazism, the Spanish Civil War,
    imperialism, anti-Semitism, and anticommunism.

    Watch the video

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQcO2OSHyWM

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Mar 13, 2013 4:52:14 PM


  23. @LCR: You can hardly be surprised that gay marriage is a leading topic on a gay website. Is towleroad a famine website? A homelessness website? A poverty website?

    And a case can be made that the Catholic church (which clearly intends to be an active political and moral obstacle in the path towards marriage equality) at least doesn't *intend* to be an obstacle in the way of solutions for poverty and homelessness (even though its stance on birth control and capitalism are *actual* obstacles). So confronting them on their active, bad-faith opposition to equality doesn't seem all that far out of line.

    Posted by: Vint | Mar 13, 2013 4:55:24 PM


  24. Huh ?

    Are we gays part of God's Plan ?
    Or am I late for the party again ?

    Posted by: JackFknTwist | Mar 13, 2013 5:01:08 PM


  25. I wonder how much the monthly cocaine bills are for Marc Jacobs and Harry?

    *snark off*

    One more time: What is 'Latino'? It excludes 'white' [i.e. European descent] people? Are 'Latino' and 'Hispanic' inter-changable? Do they only refer to 'mixed' people [i.e., mestizo, mixed white/black and so-on?]? The former president of Mexico Fox is part Irish and Spanish, possibly among other. He appears 'white'...is he also 'Latino' or 'Hispanic'?

    Posted by: ratbastard | Mar 13, 2013 5:11:09 PM


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