1. Blake says

    At least he sticks to his convictions, even if they are illogical and discriminatory.

    Someone should not only support the equality of others just because it effects him personally.

  2. Rodney Proctor (@rpwpb) says

    When are all these ‘committed supporters’ of ‘traditional’ marriage going to read a bit of history about the institution? I’m so fed up with people talking about messing with 2,000 years of tradition. 2,000 years ago, in the Holy Land, polygamy was common and wives were considered chattel. Romantic love, and monogamy by men, were unknown concepts.

  3. mikeflower says

    Salmon knows that his career in Az politics is d-e-a-d- should he have a Portman-like conversion. In fact he might have to fear for his life. Salmon’s kid, like Phyllis Shafley’s, doesn’t matter to their respective parent. In fact the kids are probably being financially suported by their parents’ homophobic career-lifestyle choices.

  4. simon says

    I blame the education system. They not only should have prayer in school, they should introduce compulsory Bible class. Salmon may not have read a real history book. At least he should know what the Bible is about.

  5. jjose712 says

    Blake: Yes, that’s much better than what Portman did. Stick by your wrong ideas no matter is you hurt someone you love.

    If he didn’t mind hurt his son, there’s no chance he change his mind, because what he is thinking is his voters.

    Sorry, but i find the Pormant’s bashing and Salmon’s praising one of the most ridiculous things that i read in a good time

  6. disgusted american says

    well IF he were my dad – this would obviously Tell Me – that he loves his Job more then Me….F Him and his “evolving”…….god I hate the GOP

  7. says

    “My son is by far one of the most important people in my life. I love him more than I can say.”

    “One” and certainly far from the first, as he’s just said precisely how much “more” that he can say — Zero.

  8. Alex Parrish says

    This man is simply ignorant of the history of marriage and is allowing his ignorance to injure his son. It is hard to believe that he considers his son that important if he is willing to support discrimination against him. Ignorance is not ‘bliss’ — ignorance is a birch!

  9. Caliban says

    Uh, did Salmon go into politics to represent the people of his district or his religious beliefs? Apparently he’s there to promote his “faith” and not sound policy to benefit the people.

    And while I’m glad that Rob Portman has come around on the issue, it still sticks in my craw a little that he only gave the issue serious thought when it effected HIM. Yes, having a family member or friend come out is how many people change their minds about gay rights, but Rob Portman isn’t some Joe Schmoe off the street, he’s an elected official who is supposed to represent all the people of his district and have THEIR interests at heart, not just his own.

  10. says

    I too am getting sick of hearing the wrong/ mistaken/ false assertions that marriage has always been between a man and a woman.

    There have been well known historical examples of male marriages, whether called couples or partners or brothers, as a descriptive term.

    The Greek examples are the most obvious; all of the male in the Sacred Band of Thebes swore love and loyalty to each other as the joined the Band and this was done at a sacred place in Thebes.
    The 250 of the Sacred band were all married in this way; all of them fought for each other before being wiped out at Charonae in 323 BC ( date ?) by Philip of Macadon and his gay son Alexander, who also had his male mate.
    BTW, the bodies of those sacred Band were excavated at the site and found laid out in formation, an unheard of honour bestowed by their enemies.
    Suggesting that marriage was the prerogative of the Christians is simply false.

  11. ohbear1957 says

    Salmon is a hypocrite, a horrible father, an ignorant Constitutionalist, and a soulless congressperson.
    He claims to support “family values,” yet he turned his back on his own son.
    From his official website: “Our nation’s founders understood the importance of planting the ideals of life, liberty and justice in our Constitution and in our culture.” Apparently, Salmon doesn’t understand those ideals. If he did, he wouldn’t deny his son the right to attain them.

  12. says

    If I had a son I would be out burning down the churches/legislation houses/temples of bigots for him and for his right to equality

    My love for him would not be subject to false self satisfied positions that I think people/constituents want to hear.

  13. Kevin says

    It should be noted his son use to date Kent Flake,cousin of U.S. Senator Jeff Flake,who voted to repeal DADT but also thinks DOMA should be upheld.
    All due respect to Harvey Milk and others,coming out in many cases still has very serious consquences.
    Both of these men were forced into therapy,as sadly many of our youth still are.
    For some people,they will believe being gay is a sin,and nothing,NOTHING will change that.

  14. lukefromcanada says

    redefinition of family? A family is not something that can be defined, every single family is unique and there has never nor will ever be a universal definition as to what constitutes a family

  15. BobN says

    The obvious question for dear old Dad is why he no longer supports the imprisonment of his son, which was quite clearly the preferred method of dealing with us during those 2000 (actually 1700) years of “Christian love”. This assumes he actually supported decriminalization, of course.

  16. woodroad34d says

    again. Unclear on the concept of love–like only straight people have invented it. As John Stewart says….go watch some cable TV reality shows and then think about how many straight people who are married are out there and not being televised like those on Reality TV. That’s some standard of wonderfulness you need to rip yourself away from to “evolve” to gay marriage. You just don’t “love” your son enough to break your shell of selfishness.

  17. says

    this is what made the whole Portman thing so infuriating – that we live in a culture where a father doing the Bare Parental Minimum is treated like a hero. For WHAT? Believing his own kid deserves equal treatment under law, but not enough to ….you know…actively work toward it?


    I get that when it comes to the GOP we need to lower our expectations and standards, but this is just too embarrassing for words, in 2013.

    this reflects what so many of my friends with GOP-voting parents have been saying for the last number of years; the sadness that despite their parent’s “love” – their parents still care more about appeasing a GOP identity than about…well…. human equality, or their own children.

    knowing that your parents would throw you under the bus to toe the line for the GOP.


  18. says

    Some people are so set in their ways that they will never change. No matter what. Also, even if he does change, his constituents are more than likely social conservatives, so publcally changing his mind might cost him an election.

  19. Randy says

    While I criticize Portman’s selfishness, this man doesn’t even have the decency to at least be selfish in defence of his family. He is truly the worst kind of man, with a dead heart.

  20. Houndentenor says

    It’s easy to say you love your son. Talk is cheap. It’s another thing to show him the love and respect you would any stranger on the street which you obviously can’t find it in yourself to do. that’s not love. I’m not sure what it is but you should call it something else.

  21. says

    @Hound – that’s “tolerance”

    it’s what gay conservatives talk about. not gay liberals. tolerance is like saying “nice doggy” because you’ve not been able to find a big enough rock….

  22. Loren says

    Hypocrisy!!! Given that Salmon is very much part of a historical community in Central Arizona that was founded on the redefinition of the family, i.e. his community and ancestral roots come from the Mormon polygamy experiment.

    The Mormon’s were sevely persecuted for a century + for their stance on polygamy, now they turn the tables on others and persecute them. He should be so ashamed as should be the Mormon church. Hypocrisy!!!

  23. Keppler says

    Hard to decide who the biggest scum-bag is, isn’t it? Salmon, who has so little regard for his son that he’s happy treating him as a second-class citizen, or Portman, who (after two years) can only support legislation that that impacts his family directly. Sad to say, both these guys are damned-if-they-do-and-damned-if-they-don’t, but that doesn’t change my feelings of contempt.

  24. Peter M. says

    Arizona congressman Salmon and Colorado Republican Don Coram should start a club “Fathers of gay sons against gay equality”.

    Both say they love their sons, they just don’t believe their sons should have the same rights as everybody else, or as Little Kiwi accurately put it ‘they’d rather attend their own son’s funeral than his marriage to the man he loves’.

  25. bobbyjoe says

    Translation of Matt Salmon’s statements: “I love power and money much more than my own son.”

    What a sad excuse for a human being. Who is he to lecture anyone on “family”?

  26. Ray says

    Thanks Rodney Proctor, you saved me the trouble.

    The son is a very important part of his life, in a second class way.

    2000 years of marriage is a bad model to work from. Women didn’t do so well under that system.

    Then again, these are the same apes (an insult to apes) who believe every literal word from the bible.


  27. billyw says

    Teh reaal question is whether he will do what a lot of anti -christ xtians do, Per PFLAG 24% of them throw their own children out of the house the day they become 18

    Some parts of xtianity are just our form of Islam

  28. Robert M. says

    It’s really quite sad that this man places his bigoted beliefs and his political ambitions above the love of his own flesh and blood. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised though. Christians have been sacrificing their loved ones or selling their souls for personal gain for 2000 years. Rep. Salmon is merely following the long held Christian tradition of believing that being a christian makes him better and more important than anyone else. Selfishness is at the heart of his core beliefs.

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