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France's Top Catholic Bishop Says Gay Marriage Will Cause Violence

Cardinal Andre Wingt-Trois, France's top Catholic bishop told a meeting of French bishops that the government risked inciting more violence by "rushing" a marriage equality law through the legislature, Reuters reports:

Vingt-troisVingt-Trois, the archbishop of Paris, said the difference between the sexes was a basic human trait and denying it by legalizing marriage and adoption for homosexuals would weaken society's ability to manage its differences peacefully.

"This is the way a violent society develops," he told the spring meeting of the French bishops' conference. "Society has lost its capacity of integration and especially its ability to blend differences in a common project." ...

...Vingt-Trois accused the government of rushing the law through parliament without sufficient public debate.

"Forcing it through can simplify things for a while," he said. "To avoid paralyzing political life when there are grave economic and social decisions to take, it would have been more reasonable and simple to not have started this process."

Anti-gay marriage protest have erupted in violence in recent weeks over the proposed law.

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  1. Does anyone remember Nagasaki, Heroshima, Dresden? How about the Khmer Rouge? The Communist Revolution? Any number of civil wars or, for that matter, the US's response to them? I can't stand it when people threaten violence as though it's a new thing? We've been violent since forever. What's new?

    Posted by: Corey | Apr 16, 2013 10:41:54 AM

  2. This cretin is tacitly giving approval for violence.

    'Working out society's differences peacefully' only works for him when society goes for his point of view.

    Posted by: JONES | Apr 16, 2013 10:48:28 AM

  3. If the Catholic church wants to see violence and blood shed, then let them experience it.

    Posted by: Problem Solved | Apr 16, 2013 10:52:34 AM

  4. Ugh!! Giving the anti-gay mob the cover of the "Child Rape Church" to hurt people, create violence and destruction. Go figure.

    Posted by: Rob | Apr 16, 2013 10:57:41 AM

  5. To French Catholics: Did you vote for this man? Did you have a voice in putting him in a position of power?

    He is an APPOINTED asshat. Call him out and voice your disapproval of his words and the anti equality views of the church hierarchy.

    Posted by: JONES | Apr 16, 2013 11:10:47 AM

  6. Smacks of desperation and a delusional mind.
    If the "emminent" archbigot of Paris does not want to see this encouragement of violence perhaps he should not be tacitly condoning it and attempting to compel his religious opinion on a population which has rejected it.
    There is a strong stench of bigoted hypocracy in his statement.
    It is beyond time that institutions such as the Catholic Church which encourage harm to others have all their tax breaks and charitable status removed and where they incite harm and violence they are arrested and jailed.

    Posted by: Kathryn | Apr 16, 2013 11:17:03 AM

  7. Those jurisdictions that have decided to recognize and support same-sex marriage are waiting for the sky to fall.

    Personally, I think it's birth control that is behind the demise of civilized society.

    These threats, warnings, and parades of horribles are ringing ever more hollow with every passing day.

    Another sacerdotal oppressor who is exposing himself as irrelevant and ineffective.

    Viva la France

    Posted by: Fahd | Apr 16, 2013 11:25:47 AM

  8. So legalizing same-sex marriage will make people unable to manage their differences peacefully? Sounds like fear mongering.

    Posted by: | Apr 16, 2013 11:54:13 AM

  9. By saying there is going to be violenece he is actively encouraging it.

    Posted by: Bravo | Apr 16, 2013 12:08:24 PM

  10. Imagine that ! Christians causing violence ! The tradition continues !

    Posted by: MAP | Apr 16, 2013 12:11:20 PM

  11. I'm constantly amazed that this group of out of touch, backwards, celibate (coughcough) anti birth control, anti everything but protecting child rapists....think they are qualified to give any kind of opinion, let alone council individuals or societies.

    It's 2013, not 1513.....seriously, just shut up already.

    Posted by: Michaelandfred | Apr 16, 2013 12:23:06 PM

  12. "it would have been more reasonable and simple to not have started this process."

    It would be more reasonable and simple to disestablish the R.C. church and banish its hateful clergy. The majority of the French are RC in name only anyway. Clearly the church is encouraging violence; put those ass-hat bishops and archbishops behind bars where they belong.

    Posted by: Alex Parrish | Apr 16, 2013 12:24:32 PM

  13. No! violent societies develop because people are excluded from the group, much like this cult has done for centuries. The best hope for peace and civilization is an inclusive society, or is that just my American side showing...

    Posted by: MiKem | Apr 16, 2013 1:11:15 PM

  14. Sorry, it's catholics who will cause violence, not gays. Time to put a sock in it and start a new Friday, the 13th tradition and, instead of Templars, roust the Catholics and take over their properties.

    Posted by: woodroad34d | Apr 16, 2013 1:48:53 PM

  15. So now the Catholic church is adding racketeering to all its other crimes? "Don't pass this law or someone's going to get hurt?"

    Posted by: Chris | Apr 16, 2013 2:19:20 PM

  16. Religious conservatives have no respect for democracy, never have. They are happy enough when government inflicts their beliefs--however, idiotic--on everyone else, and allows them to exercise their usual malice, wilful ignorance, and cheap self-indulgence, but get really hostile--even homicidal--when anyone's ideas but their own prevail.

    Posted by: Chris Vogel | Apr 16, 2013 2:30:38 PM

  17. no actually it is loud ignorant bastards like the cardinal who spread hate and intolerance that cause the violence. the hate spewed by these so called christian leaders stirs up the hatred by dumb ass neo nazis who need little excuse for violence.

    Posted by: walter | Apr 16, 2013 2:43:11 PM

  18. Need to post this cartoon again which shows his holiness is the son of three fathers. It says in French:"Father Vingt Trois has three fathers" (It is not Wingt Trois).

    Posted by: simon | Apr 16, 2013 3:25:07 PM

  19. Having grown up in the "church" and spending 12 years in catlik schools in brooklyn...I have this to say. They don't have any IQ requirements for priesthood, sisterhood or brotherhood. As long as you make a lifetime commitment to keep your junk in your're hired. Or...of course if you're going to be a agree to marry god and sit on his face only under special dispensation from the man in the pink gown. They're laughable!

    Posted by: PAUL B. | Apr 16, 2013 4:01:41 PM

  20. A religious leader saying "This is the way a violent society develops" is no different from calling for civil war itself.

    What a disgrace.

    Posted by: Randy | Apr 16, 2013 4:19:24 PM

  21. The opinions of the Archbishop of Paris don't really matter that much. It is estimated that only about 12% of French Catholics attend Mass regularly and in the city of Paris the number is in the single digits. This in spite of the fact that the Catholic Church teaches that not attending Mass on Sunday is a Mortal sin. The church teaches that if you die in the state of Mortal sin, you burn in Hell for eternity. So much for the influence of the Catholic Hierarchy.

    Posted by: andrew | Apr 16, 2013 4:44:02 PM

  22. Everyone here seems so angry with the Church for speaking. Oh, how personal desires eclipse reason. There are sinful people in the Church, they are not superhuman and no one here would tell me that he is perfect either, probably worse. An overwhelming majority of the pedophile clergy were gay, that should say something against the gay argument.

    That being said, the Church never fails to speak the truth, in spite of the shortcomings of its members. When Pope Paul VI released his encyclical "Humanae Vitae" cautioning against the promotion and use of artificial contraception WHAT did the world not say, like the lot I see here. He warned that this would lead to infidelity, to the spread of disease, to the destruction of marriage, to the degradation of human dignity. What do we have today, infidelity is the norm today, you know, just the norm. Sexually transmitted infections abound in figures that can only be described as astronomical in spite of technological advances like AIDS in Africa. Marriage is no longer something to be cherished, it is as much as having a date as any other thing with divorce going over the 50% mark, who suffers? Children, who by their experience fail to learn the good of love and respect. Then came the legalization of abortion, degrading the dignity of the unborn human because we have lost the relationship and continue to lose the relationship between sex and children. The institutionalization of homosexuality is the next step, who knows what next. For anyone with a grain of sense would know that what the bishop referred to was not just violence that is bread by the maleducation of the next generation but the loss of the sense of right and wrong by society and the subsequent persecution of those who do not go with the program. You see? The institutionalization of one wrong leads to another. Maybe you will want that day to come before you see. Don't say you were not warned. Unfortunately my poor children will live in that world and I pray for their submission to Truth and not the wiles of the world. Amen.

    Posted by: joseph e. | Apr 17, 2013 3:24:37 AM

  23. Was it Pope Urban II who called for action that started the First Crusade?

    Posted by: simon | Apr 17, 2013 7:05:12 PM

  24. This violence is not caused by gay marriage. This violence is not caused by a law change. This violence is caused by Catholic incited intolerance.

    It was this bishop of the catholic church who instigated the anti-gay marriage protests in the first place. It was his anti gay public pronouncements which bolstered and motivated the demonstrations. It is his words which echo in the ears of the devout as they demonstrate & riot. It is the bishop who built this nightmare.

    Any blood spilled by this lunacy will be on the bishops hands. Failure by the church authorities to reign him in puts the blood on the hands of the pope.

    The church must get back on message. The church must start behaving in a christian fashion.
    Playing politics and pointing fingers at the politicians, denouncing gays is not saintly, it is not good.
    It is evil.
    I want to hear the bishop call for calm, I want to hear him call for peace and understanding. I want to hear him call for tolerance.

    Instead he joins the attack with his venomous words.

    This will not end well. It will not be the gay population who come out of this the worse.
    This will damage the church way beyond the self inflicted damage it suffered at the hands of its pedophiles.

    Posted by: Neil Cameron | Apr 19, 2013 6:11:57 PM

  25. The Catholic hierarchy must be fearful
    if the faithful question the Church and feel mislead on same-sex marriage a
    thousand other questions might arise.

    Posted by: FrankC | Apr 24, 2013 2:27:01 PM

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