Evangelical Pastor to Christians: Don't Drink at Starbucks - VIDEO
"You can't drink Starbucks and be biblically right on this thing [marriage]. It's just a real simple principle," said David Barton, an evangelical pastor who is the former vice-chair of the Republican Party of Texas, during a service at Whitesburg Baptist Church in Huntsville, Alabama.
Towleroad reported on David Barton last year when he claimed that America, as a nation, was "going down" for supporting same-sex marriage.
The full quote, via RightWingWatch:
"Starbucks is pouring all this money into destroying tradtional marriage. The question is, can a Christian give money to a group he knows will use it to attack what God supports. If you know that when you buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks that 5, 10, 15 cents is going to be used to defeat marriage, can you do that? The answer is no. Biblically, there's no way a Christian can help support what is attacking God. I'm sorry, you've got to find some other coffee to drink. You can't drink Starbucks and be biblically right on this thing. It's just a real simple principle."
Watch, AFTER THE JUMP...
I see these people in Starbucks all the time. (eye roll)
Uhm, your audience there probably balks at paying over 50 cents for a cup of coffee dude.
Posted by: MIke | May 31, 2013 9:34:04 AM
Starbucks has not put any money into supporting Marriage Equality. All Starbucks did was verbally support marriage Equality. But that doesn't stop the blood thirsty murder advocating Nazi David Burton from bearing false witness like the worthless parasite he is
Posted by: RMc | May 31, 2013 9:34:37 AM
Pastor Barton does business with people [whether he realizes it or not], private businesses, and local, state and federal government, all the time, that do things that are against biblical teachings. They do things that even non-religious people and Atheist would consider to be bad, even evil. They promote things that degrade other human beings, society as a whole, abuse others, even torture and murder people. Much of the time they do these things in the name of money and financial interests and gain. Does Pastor Barton equally criticize them? Does he equally criticize government and private corporations, for example, that routinely engage in behavior that is extremely un-biblical [word?] like the behaviors I mentioned above? Democrat and Republican alike, not to mention the societies, institutions and governments outside the U.S. we and he deal with.
These evangelical pastors do obsess over homosexuality, while looking the other way regarding many,many other un-biblical things our society [and by extension he, if he likewise engages and condones through apathy or practice] and it's major institutions engage in and condone. Why the particular obsession with sex, sexuality?
Posted by: ratbastard | May 31, 2013 9:39:09 AM
1 Kings 11:3 - And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
Genesis 4:19 - And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one [was] Adah, and the name of the other Zillah.
2 Chronicles 13:21 - But Abijah waxed mighty, and married fourteen wives, and begat twenty and two sons, and sixteen daughters.
2 Chronicles 11:21 - And Rehoboam loved Maachah the daughter of Absalom above all his wives and his concubines: (for he took eighteen wives, and threescore concubines; and begat twenty and eight sons, and threescore daughters.)
Judges 8:30 - And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives.
Deuteronomy 21:15 - If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, [both] the beloved and the hated; and [if] the firstborn son be hers that was hated
1 Chronicles 4:5 - And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.
Posted by: Sam | May 31, 2013 9:49:20 AM
Or use google or Apple or Microsoft products either. You know what Americans love more than religion? Starbucks. Even his most rabid followers are thinking, "guuuuurl, give up my 180 degree no whip half caff, sugar free mocha frapaccino? You crazy!"
Posted by: Michaelandfred | May 31, 2013 9:55:41 AM
Most of those idiots don't buy coffee at Starbucks anyway - too complicated for them. BTW I will be getting a hazlenut frappucchino this weekend - a venti, as a matter of fact.
Posted by: Jack M | May 31, 2013 10:05:16 AM
I love his speech, with a few edits:
"[Insert Compant Name] is pouring all this money into destroying equality. The question is, [should] a person give money to a group they know will use it to attack what they support. If you know that when you buy a [product name] from [Insert Compant Name] that 5, 10, 15 cents is going to be used to defeat equality, can you do that? The answer is no. I'm sorry, you've got to find some other [product name]. You can't support [Insert Compant Name] and be morally right on this thing. It's just a real simple principle."
Posted by: JD | May 31, 2013 10:08:04 AM
Microsoft, Apple Google and many major tech companies all support marriage equality. Why not pick on them too and stopping using their products? As usual, a bunch of self serving hypocrites.
Posted by: eric | May 31, 2013 10:16:18 AM
I say never listen to anyone who says he knows with absolute certainty what God supports.
Posted by: Eddie | May 31, 2013 10:27:14 AM
These so called Christians pick and choose things out of the so called bible, the book men have changed to suit there own purpose, Not Gods.
Posted by: mark | May 31, 2013 10:34:03 AM
Dude, just buy your coffee at a Chick-fil-A if you think God really cares. Just try not to think about all the other products and services you use on a daily basis that come from corporations and entities that support equality.
Posted by: e.c. | May 31, 2013 10:37:18 AM
He's hot.
Posted by: MARCUS BACHMANN | May 31, 2013 10:38:38 AM
So, according to Barton Chick-Fil-A has a right to freedom of speech but Starbucks doesn't.
All those freedom of speech supporters who went to Chick-Fil-A will now be going to Starbucks to support their freedom of speech. Right?
Posted by: 1♥ | May 31, 2013 10:39:45 AM
Apparently he is unaware that -- according to his holy book -- Jesus, the Christ, (the person who is supposed to be the model for a christian life,) ate and drank with sinners and tax-collectors. The man clearly doesn't know his Bible -- or he has chosen to ignore it. I suspect the later.
Posted by: Alex Parrish | May 31, 2013 10:40:04 AM
@ratbastard: great comments, good questions. There ain't no hypocrite like an evangelical hypocrite.
Posted by: jamal49 | May 31, 2013 10:40:05 AM
He stands before them preaching hate and they lap it up. Not one person objected. Not one person stood up and left. How many of those people in that room have gay kids or relatives that they claim to love yet sat there silently as their value as humans was demeaned. In the name of their faith, they are complicit in the brutality of day to day life for LGBT kids.
This is your religion? This is your gathering in the name of celebration of the goodness of life?
Then they cry when fronted with their bigotry. And Bob Williams writes screeds about the 'jihad' waged against 'them' the Good Christians.
Posted by: JONES | May 31, 2013 10:52:03 AM
Hey, Evangelicals - if you're going to "drink at Starbucks", make it warm gin...because it's only going to get worse for you! Better yet - hop on The Rapture Bus and go away!!!
Posted by: Geoff | May 31, 2013 10:56:11 AM
These people would have to live in a cave if they stopped using companies who supported LGBT rights and, even then probably, would have to forgo the wood and fire too.
Posted by: Michael | May 31, 2013 11:09:50 AM
Queen Elizabeth I outlawed the Cycle Plays, the religious-themed plays put on for the poor folk (who were ILLITERATE) by Catholics. Why? Because illiterate folks couldn't read the bible themselves and were instead being "told" what was in the bible via those plays. What did that do? It made a whole lot of stupid people get fired up about something that they not only didn't understand, but couldn't check for themselves to see if it was legit.
And that's what this is. The modern american Evangelical movement is disgusting - these folks don't have a bloody clue what's actually in the scriptures they pretend to care about.
they just like their pastors tell them. then they give him their money and he maaakes iittttt raiiiin.
there's a very specific reason that these pastors don't get up and talk about the Christian Need for universal healthcare, or a condemnation of the Gun Culture that is (hello!) killing thousands of americans every year, on your own bloody soil. Not about feeding the poor. Clothing the destitute. shelter for the homeless.
none of those things because those things would require compassion and empathy and grace. it's much easier to harness hatred and bigotry, for your own gain, and pretend that that's what being a Christian is about.
and his followers, who are likely on the lower end of the economic spectrum, will likely keep filling his pockets to hear this drivel.
i wonder what his home looks like. his car(s). his vacation spots.... i wonder...?
and sure enough, folks like him and his followers will be having some RIck Warren moments of their own to contend with. enjoy checking out teen-sized caskets.
Posted by: Little Kiwi | May 31, 2013 11:23:03 AM
I want to see a sermon on gluttony by ANY of these southern preachers.
Youtube video please.
Posted by: johnny | May 31, 2013 11:30:46 AM
The first traditional marriage we should destroy is his.
Posted by: Mona | May 31, 2013 11:34:56 AM
While the Progressives were trying to blame Katrina on Bush and screaming "Racist!" as loud as the internet would allow... the evangelicals were loading trucks and on their way to help.
If we want to take away their power, we need to match their effort. Yelling at them is not productive. Christians and Mormons, Scientologists and Muslims shamelessly self promote. We get accused of "promoting homosexuality" but we don't really go out of our way to promote ourselves as the homosexual-good-citizen.
New Orleans would be fabulous if we had taken the lead in the recovery and rehabilitation of the city. Instead, we had Decadance.
Posted by: David Hearne | May 31, 2013 11:37:51 AM
Now where are my meds?
Posted by: David Hearne | May 31, 2013 11:45:21 AM
Except, David, the good pastor doesn't have nearly as much power as you and he thinks he has. The Starbucks, Googles, Microsofts (i.e, companies with power) are on our side, not his, and his little tantrums aren't going to turn back time. If you're a lousy citizen, speak for yourself. The rest of us "homosexuals" have "promoted" ourselves just fine.
(And Bush's non-response to Katrina is but one example of his gross incompetence at leading the country, though that has zilch to do woth this post.)
Posted by: Ernie | May 31, 2013 12:01:24 PM
Not only could they not read the Bibles, they were forbidden to own or to read a Bible by the Catholic Church itself. Under penalty of death.
Don't even get me started on the deliberate mistranslation and selective word usage in different editions of the 'Sacred word of God'.
Sodom: Destroyed for pride, greed, injustice and lack of concern for the poor. And the survivors ... Lot and his daughters. Do you even want to go there? No that's right you just want to focus your selective Bible stupidity on 'teh gays'.
Leviticus was a 'rabbinical guide'. Actual translation: 'You shall not lie with a male [on] the bed(s) of a woman, it is unclean.' Selectively translated and vented with religious hate it becomes an excuse to 'put to death' homosexuals in over 20 different 'versions' of 'God's word'.
The Centurion's 'pais' that Jesus heals. That's his male lover. He of the 'greater faith than any in Israel'.
Or Canonization. Or suppressed & omitted texts. Or the Church declared 'heretics' that were murdered by the thousands if they disagreed with Church dogma.
A house of lies. Doing evil while congratulating themselves on doing 'Gods work'.
Posted by: JONES | May 31, 2013 12:18:50 PM