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Newt Gingrich Says Religious Rights are Being 'Outlawed' by the Gay Movement: VIDEO

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On a segment on gay rights on Meet the Press today, Newt Gingrich complained about Catholic adoption agencies being "outlawed" in some states where marriage equality laws take effect. MSNBC contributor Joy-Ann Reid pointed out that it was the Church's decision to withdraw its services.

GINGRICH: "What I'm struck with is the one-sidedness of the desire for rights. There are no rights for Catholics to have adoption services in Massachusetts. They're outlawed. There are no rights in DC for Catholics to have adoption service. They're outlawed. This passing reference to religion, we sort of respect religion, sure, as long as you don't practice it. I mean I think it would be good to have a debate over, you know, beyond this question of, 'Are you able to be gay in America?' what does it mean? Does it mean that you have to actually affirmatively eliminate any institution which does not automatically accept that, and therefore, you're now going to have a secular state say to a wide range of religious groups, Catholics, Protestants, orthodox Jews, Mormons, frankly, Muslims, 'You cannot practice your religion the way you believe it, and we will outlaw your institutions.' ... Let's just start with adoption services. It's impossible for the Catholic Church to have an adoption service in Massachusetts that follows Catholic doctrine.

JOY-ANN REID: But didn't the Catholic Church, particularly Catholic Charities in Boston, they affirmatively decided to withdraw adoption services. No one said they are not allowed to provide adoption services.

GINGRICH: No, they withdrew them because they were told, "You could not follow Catholic doctrine," which is for marriage between a man and a woman.

REID: I think the point is, is that you don't have the state attempting to tell religions what to believe. People, if they oppose the idea of gay marriage within their religion, have the absolute right to do so. The question is whether or not religious institutions can make public policy, whether they can enter the public policy--

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  1. I too am sickened by these news programs who invite liars and bigots onto their panels and never challenge them on the vile hate speak that comes out of their mouths. For Newt Gingrich to believe that he has the moral authority to lecture others on marriage is outrageous.

    Posted by: David | May 5, 2013 9:42:20 PM


  2. The man who has been divorced twice and married 3 times is worried about discrimination about the Catholic church? The church that shouldn't even recognize his current marriage to his former mistress?

    Posted by: Greg | May 5, 2013 10:05:19 PM


  3. So what he's griping about, basically, is that these organizations are being denied the right to deny rights.

    It's a good thing for him he isn't catholic (or is he?) - he'd probably still be stuck in his first unhappy marriage.

    Posted by: ophu | May 5, 2013 10:34:24 PM


  4. For once in our lives can't ANYONE just say the obvious? I mean, how hard would it to be, in this situation,

    "So, Newt, you're on your 3rd marriage so technically the RCC should NOT recognize your marriage but the RCC, and EVERYONE else, doesn't have a problem in viewing it as a valid marriage. Isn't it a bit hypocritical to use the religion excuse against gay people when that's plainly not the real issue here?"

    I'm pretty sure I can speak for the entire LGBT community when I say I'm fed up with just about every news organization treating these bigots with kid's gloves and lips to their ass cheeks.

    Posted by: Michael | May 6, 2013 2:42:46 AM


  5. Joy Reid is spot on!

    Posted by: Jim | May 6, 2013 3:04:50 AM


  6. Newt? Telling others how to be righteous? Now THAT is funny! Don't these "news" shows worry about credibility when they have clowns like Newt on their show, as a purported "expert"...of what, cheating on your spouse? Yeah, some defense of marriage there....what a freakin' hypocrite.

    Posted by: millerbeach | May 6, 2013 3:59:40 AM


  7. Wrong card to play, Newt: "church doctrine" has been wrong plenty of times, and required a secularist corrective to get it straightened out--usually at least a century after the rest of us had moved on. Well, the same thing is happening now with respect to the place of gay people (and women, btw) in the church and the world.

    If those who formulate "church doctrine" had their way the earth would still be the center of the universe, pope would be the king of emperors and anyone who disagreed with popes would be subject to the rack--or the stake--or both--until they "recanted." When "church doctrine" is an instrument of abuse, violation of human rights and of excusing the inexcusable, church doctrine belongs in the dustbin of history.

    Posted by: DannyEastVillage | May 6, 2013 7:07:11 AM


  8. The Roman Catholic church is unique in the United States in that fully expect to drink from the public trough while making up their own rules and picking and choosing. Catholic Social Services wants to deny rights to people, but in fact they only deal with a small number of DC adoptions. Most other religious groups who want to opt out the rues, also opt out of the public money. Religious groups can believe whatever they like, but when they want to force everyone to comply with their doctrine, they have overstepped.

    Posted by: deke | May 6, 2013 7:27:46 AM


  9. How do you know Newt Gingrich is lying?

    His lips are moving.

    At no point was any Catholic adoption agency told they couldn't operate.

    They are free, even today, to operate even with their anti-gay discriminatory policy.

    What they WERE told was that they could not receive government funds, if they weren't willing to provide services to ALL customers.

    Newt Gingrich is essentially bemoaning the lack of government subsidy for his preferred religious corporations. Last time I checked, that's socialism.

    Posted by: LOL | May 6, 2013 8:16:01 AM


  10. @ Mary: Thank you for your insight, good points, will try to see it that way. This does not lessen the fact that they are still behaving in a discriminating, unruly, lawless, contemptuous manner - and no one else is going to pay for that.

    Posted by: Christophe | May 6, 2013 8:31:51 AM


  11. Memo to Newt: We have a separation of Church and State because the Founding Fathers were prescient on the conflicts of beliefs. All religions are allowed to operate in America as long as they operate within the parameters of non-discrimination enacted. A particular religion not wishing to do so, is free to stay out of a particular endeavor within American society.

    Posted by: Michael | May 6, 2013 9:27:11 AM


  12. I take it this means Newt is planning on running in 2016. He's one of several deluded souls that thinks they came in second in the Republican primary.

    The main issue here is that the Supreme Court of both the US and Mass. have both ruled that public funding that does not outwardly discriminate against a particular faith is okay (technically "discretionary").

    Where Newt goes way off track is that adoption is not part of the Catholic faith or religious services. Adoption is a "charitable" service. It was one of several charitable services that used to make the Church a lot of money by getting state and federal grants. Providing adoption is not "practicing religion". What the Church was doing was nebulously applying its values to the adoption process. It was also "building up" the Church by baptizing babies and making sure they ended up in Catholic homes.

    If Newt were willing to narrow his arguments to the social and cultural pressure on the Church to change it's values, which has been going on since the Reformation, then he would have a point, however trite.

    Posted by: anon | May 6, 2013 11:19:34 AM


  13. hey newt what does why so worried about the catholic church and its beliefs? didn't seem to stop you from leaving a sick wive and getting a divorce twice. what only the parts of the religion you support are okay but ones you don't it is okay to ignorant . please go run your moon colony already and leave the people on earth alone.

    Posted by: walter | May 6, 2013 2:50:00 PM


  14. Let us not forget - especially POLITICIANS - The Roman Catholic Church, when they had complete control of Italy, every one of you people that are now opposing the Catholic Church's policy on Gays would be in prison being drawn and quartered, or hung, or burned at the stake. Do you REALLY believe that they would not do the same today if they could get away with it?

    Posted by: Jerry6 | May 6, 2013 6:24:05 PM


  15. With my newly granted powers from nitwit newt I will outlaw religion in any state or federal government capacity and rescind any tax free status. Put Nitwit in jail for retroactive adultery.

    Posted by: DC Arnold | May 8, 2013 9:06:34 AM


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