1. MiddleoftheRoader says

    These tornadoes are a tragedy for the people of Oklahoma. But I don’t see Pat Robertson saying that they are God’s revenge for Oklahoma’s (negative) views about gay people (hmmmm…. like Hurricane Katrina was God’s revenge for how New Orleans (positively) treated gay people.

  2. LiamB says

    Yes, let’s all take the opportunity for political/social snarking while the bodies of children are getting pulled out of the school. Class act.

  3. HKfCA says

    Someone please explain to an ignorant southern californian how these hicks ever built an elementary school without some kind of underground shelter, in the middle of oklahoma? Why did 24 children die in predictable weather event?

  4. BearlyBob says

    @HKfCA I wondered the same thing but just heard the (R) Congressperson from OK who lives in that neighborhood give an interview on CNN. They asked him the same thing. He said basements and such are rare in most of the state because they have to blasted out of the solid rock. He said some people have fortified rooms in their homes.

    Also, why do they have to be called hicks? That’s a bit douchey, don’t you think?

  5. MIke says

    Well, the only “famous” person so far I’ve seen who took to the internet to score political laughs on the deaths of crushed to death third graders is Daily Show co-creator/write Lizz Winstead and of course she is backtracking like a lunatic.

    I never really cares what nobody assh0les had to say.

    Spin LIZZ, SPIN!!! She’s already hitting up her NYC mates for contributions. If you’re going to a cocktail party there tonight, bring $$$.

  6. LiamB says

    HKfCA, it’s the soil type from what we were always told. Something about the clay content. Other than that, most of the buildings like that usually are designed with safe areas of some sort to minimize this kind of thing. The first elementary school that got hit, no serious injuries, but the second one just imploded.

    And let’s face it, when you get hit by a tornado of that magnitude, basements aren’t really safe.

  7. RBearSAT says

    Some of you people need to get a life. A state just suffered 51 deaths, as reported by the OK state medical examiner’s office, and you’re worried about some right wing lunatics making stupid statements?

    How about forgetting about them and focusing on the tragedy in OK. When you focus on the lunatics, you drop to their level. Ignore them, like the rest of the country.

  8. Moz's says

    actually NO, the lack of basements has nothing to do with the soil type but rather the more lax building codes

    “There’s a rational explanation for the typical lack of basements in the South and there prevalence in the North. The further North you go, the deeper the building codes require you to excavate to place a home’s footing below the frost line. If you’re excavating 3-4′ already, plus placing the house 2′ out of the ground, it’s foolish to not dig an extra foot or so and just create a basement. In the South, the codes may only require footings to be 1-2′ deep, and therefore the addition of a basement would require much more excavation (and therefore cost) beyond what’s required.”

  9. says

    Not to be insensitive, because I do truly feel and pray for these people and communities; however, when a disaster strikes in ‘liberal’ states (ie. hurricane Sandy), the first words from Christian conservatives and the Bible belt is that it is “Gods will” because of liberal views (ie. gay marriage). So what is it called when the Bible belt has a disaster? Is it not “Gods will”? Let’s see how fast disaster relief comes from the federal government. Will it be held up like the Republican’s did (lest we forget) after hurricane Sandy?

  10. says

    Sad to see how nasty and ugly people can be online. Really? Especially right after the disaster? Get over yourselves and take the higher road.

    Thoughts are with you, OK. I weep especially for the young kids who lost their lives and their families.

  11. RBearSAT says

    CB who CARES? The rest of the nation doesn’t. The death toll is now up to 91, with 20 of them children. Personally, spending any amount of energy on a bunch of lunatics less than 24 hours after this horrific tragedy is a waste.

    Thoughts and prayers to the people of Moore, OK and their family and friends.

  12. Paul R says

    Few places in the world are immune to natural disasters. Bringing religion, politics, or anything else into their causes is absurd. Certain places aren’t ideal if you want to avoid disaster, but I’d still live in SF (current home) over central VA (former home) any day, and VA was hit with an earthquake in the past year. Nature is capricious.

  13. Tyler says

    Moore was devastated in the same manner just a few years ago. These people chose to remain and rebuild and subject their children to this horror – that is the real tragedy.

  14. ratbastard says

    As others have stated, basements are rare in this part of the world because of the soil, while at the same time they’re prone to these terrible weather events. Very sad, especially the children.

    We occasionally get them in New England, especially at higher elevations away from the coast [very rare in the Boston area], but almost all New England homes and many businesses have basements. I can’t recall any widespread deaths caused by tornados when they’ve touched down here, just destruction. Don’t know if the basements have anything to do with it.

  15. ratbastard says


    How do they finance rebuilding? Insurance policies? Premiums must be fierce. Does the federal government dish out $ for rebuilding in the same places prone to being destroyed by tornados like they do in places prone to flooding and hurricanes?

  16. RBearSAT says

    Tyler do you even understand the randomness of tornadoes? This one is rare, in that it followed the same path of one in 1999. Having lived in Tornado Alley, where my parents and sister have lived all their lives, we never were struck with this devastation. However, two have come through our area only a mile away.

    Natural disasters are everywhere. You don’t move away from them. You prepare for them the best you can.

    I would hope you would gain a better understanding of these issues and then focus on doing what you can to help them.

  17. says

    That said authorities are now being with faced a deluge of criticism as some have gone on to accuse lawmakers wtih ill planning as the existence of the tornado was predicted as early as a week ago with some having called for the closure of schools ahead of this storm. Schools were no underground cellars were said to be in place.

    Then again one has to wonder how much could have really been done in the face of nature and whether recent efforts to turn this event into a political showdown is just for show and isn’t necessarily acknowledging that sometimes there are things beyond what any law or authoritative body could have done…?

  18. Yaoi says

    @Palto As someone who survived a tornado 3 years ago and still has PTSD and a phobia of storms and thunder from it, I can say that no one really cares about your thoughts.

    Do something useful like shame OK into supporting Fema or whatever I hear they haven’t been doing even though they will be getting support from these things they don’t support.

    Your pointless thoughts aren’t going to change anything, but actions will.

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