Comments

  1. MIke says

    Sturtz sounds as rude and disrespectful as Code Pink. Or that woman who used to dog Pres Bush and the media loved – what was the name Cindy Shee-Sheecan-SheeSOMETHING. She’s gone now.
    I remember Laura Bush and “Shut up. Or I’m leaving” and everyone was all “oh, you so bad, FLOTUS, you tell them….”

  2. QJ201 says

    This was a small fundraiser in a private home, not some big media fundraising event.

    To be shouted down in front of a small crowd…in a small room…just plain rude.

    These are the kind of fundraisers in which the speakers mingle…and you can “make your pitch” without being such a jerk about it.

  3. johnny says

    There’s a time for “act up” and a time to sit back and wait your turn. It’s all in the delivery and timing.

    Simply put: Sturtz blew it.

    I don’t blame flotus for getting pissy, I probably would have done worse.

  4. Brian in Texas says

    Yes, it’s rude and inappropriate to shout at a speaker during their prepared remarks. You’re just disrupting the event for everyone. If you want to protest go stand outside and do so.

    One of the White House correspondents should ask Jay Carney today why the President won’t sign an ENDA executive order. The next time the President does a sit down interview or press conference he should be asked as well.

  5. Paul R says

    It’s pointless. The protester achieved nothing.Like Michelle controls policy? It’s nothing but self-aggrandizement, which is why Code Pink gets little to no respect.

  6. Laura says

    Ok, the heckler was “taken aback” by the first lady “coming right down in her face”, but her actions were completely fine?

    Sounds to me like Mrs Obama was much more civil than she was. Apparently, Sturtz can dish it out but she can’t take it.

  7. RBearSAT says

    Welcome to the classless way GetEQUAL operates. They claim a lot of victories but really just mooch off the hard work others put in to get these things done. Mostly stuff like this is a soapbox for their organization than really effecting change.

    It’s time someone shouts down GetEQUAL.

  8. Chadd says

    I understand the frustration; however, this was disrespectful not only to the First Lady, but also to the President. Sturtz apparently thinks Obama is the kind of man who will do something just because his wife tells him to.

  9. Tyler says

    This piece of trash deserves to have somebody “get in her face”. At least Michelle doesn’t take that kind of abuse, unlike her husband. Good for her.

  10. K in VA says

    This heckler did her cause — our cause — no favors, and probably did a bit of harm.

    If you don’t know how to protest effectively, keep your damned mouth shut and write a check to aid people who know what they’re doing.

  11. Uppity_Gay says

    How dare these uppity gays demand equality. Haven’t we given them enough lip service, do they actual expect action.

  12. Anastasia Beaverhausen says

    @Mike — Cindy Sheehan’s son Casey was killed in Bush’s war against the wrong enemy. She thought the lives of thousands of Americans were more valuable than one psycho’s Oedipus complex resolution.

  13. says

    A more effective way would have been for Obama to take the woman aside rather than grandstanding and tell her she empathizes with her feelings and cause and that if she’s allowed to finish her talk without interruption, then she and the protestor can talk more face-to-face about her concerns afterward. The way this story is spun, Obama just looks like she lacks the je ne sais quoi to handle life’s hiccups.

  14. nn says

    GetEQUAL did not help the case, not at all. It is just rude and disrespectful and doesn’t accomplish anything.

    There is still a long way to go until we have full equality, but still Obama have done more for lgbtq people than all other Presidents have done together before. so I`m with mrs Obama all the way.

  15. Wavin' Dave says

    “This is something I don’t do well.” – one of the most succinct phrases I’ve heard in a long while. I gotta use that, and often, right before I tear somebody a new a-hole. Shelly O, we luv ya!

  16. Chadd says

    @Sean: That would have been a great way for the President to handle the situation, but Michelle has no political authority. When Michelle got home and told her husband about being heckled by someone who wanted him to sign something, does anyone think that would make him more willing to sign it? Give in to the bullies just so they stop being bullies? Further, Michelle wasn’t there to even discuss ENDA, so why should Michelle extend the courtesy to privately discuss an issue with someone who had just shouted her down in public? Dealing with life’s hiccups sometimes means not giving in to the person who thinks that they can get their way just by yelling the loudest.

  17. antisaint says

    I’m reminded of Wanda Sykes’ “Who is the REAL Michelle Obama?” joke. That “this is something I don’t do well” line is priceless, I think we almost found out!

  18. Adam says

    Obama needs to stop dragging his feet on enacting ENDA. Do it now, Mr President, or you will lose our support.

    As for Michelle, fancy her saying that there’s only one choice. That’s something that a tyrant would say.

  19. ratbastard says

    Oh man. Is it up to me to point out that the posters on here calling Sturtz ‘trash’ and ‘disrespectful’ would have been delighted if she had done the same thing to Laura Bush or GW himself?

    To those who say it was ineffective, I actually disagree, and think it took balls for Sturtz to be able to get into such an exclusive and intimate setting and confront Ms. Obama. WHY DOESN’T THE PRESIDENT JUST SIGN IT? Huh? He’s ‘progressive’ and says nice things about how he likes gay people and thinks personally they should have all the same civil rights as everyone else.

    Give me a phuking break. These politicians and their partners. Michelle was in this situation was filling in for her husband, the president [she’s also an experienced high rolling corporate lawyer to boot], so she absolutely is fair game. SAME GOES FOR ANY POTUS/first lady, regardless of their political affiliations. In the case of the Obamas, they don’t get a pass because they’re allegedly ‘progressive’ [they aren’t, they work for the same people the Bush’s worked for] or because they’re black. That doesn’t fly, except for a minority [and that’s not a racial reference] of people.

    And Sheehan is still around and doing her thing. It’s just her ‘progressive’ so-called friends [at least the Democratic party shills and hacks] have dropped her like a hot potato. When was the last antiwar protest on the scale and frequency that they occurred under GW, taken place?

    *crickets*

    Obama was a brilliant pick by the powers that be, the real power in our society. They ran him as a Democratic ‘progressive’, ran a weak opponent, got him elected, he does their bidding, and the ‘progressives’ and especially the black folks STFU. They can’t criticize him because he’s a ‘progressive’ black man! Brilliant move.

  20. Adam says

    Ratbastard,

    Exactly right. The creepy gay hypocrites are out in force on this board today. They’re the type who hide like cowards behind their smelly keyboards hoping that gay rights will just happen. Sorry, guys, but gay rights don’t just happen. You have to fight for them.

    Michelle showed her ugly side at this event, and she knows it.

  21. Cadence says

    “Sturtz told the WaPo that she was “taken aback” at Obama’s response to the heckling: “She came right down in my face.””

    How rude of the First Lady. She should have just smiled nicely while the lady behaved disrespectfully towards her.

    So basically, the heckler can dish it out, but she can’t take it, and she wasn’t actually trying to start a dialogue, she just wanted to cause a commotion.

  22. says

    The activist cracks me up! She was “taken aback” that the crowd wasn’t on her side and that the First Lady was not having it? Well, how do you think a First Lady feels being shouted down? She’s not a decision-maker. She is a loyalist to her husband’s administration, and a good Democrat, but so are many other people—she is not the one doing, or not doing, what the activist wants done. Bad optics. Good for Michelle for not having it. All that said, I would love for the president to sign an executive order, but I don’t believe this advances that cause, and if you’re doing something that doesn’t advance the cause, then you’re not really interested in that cause so much as in what it is you’re doing.

  23. Cam says

    In all the false outrage over the politness or rudness of this people seem ti still be unable to answer the simple question of “Well, why HASN’T he signed it?”.

    This reminds me of when HRS kept attacking anybody that brought up repealing DADT or legalizing marrige, saying it was ok if Dems didn’t support us.
    Sounds like they are back to their old tricks of protecting the politicians over their members.

  24. Steve says

    I’m glad a majority of people here are thinking clearly about this issue. As an earlier poster wrote, “there is a time for ACT UP” – when our causes are being ignored. Our causes are advancing forward, much to the chagrin of our enemies. Our supporters are growing. We are taking steps forward. This administration has done a great deal for gay people. But actions like this get the haters spreading the word about “The homosexual agenda” and how we can’t even support our supporters. Things like this activist make us look like Tea Partiers. Slow, methodical steps fowrard. Slow and steady wins the race.

    Oh – and disrespect for the First Lady in a speaking forum is classless.

  25. Polyboy says

    EDNA is a law. All of this executive order whining is not going to cause lasting change. It must be law, especially for workplace protections.

    An executive order would have limited reach and scope. It isn’t a magical “make corporations do what I want” spell.

  26. Kev C says

    The President and his domestic partner have plenty of opportunities to speak and be heard. Too many. We need to hear from more hecklers to balance the discussion.

  27. reality says

    Sturtz was out of line. The Obama family has been very vocal supporters of the LGBT community. To shout in her face is disrespectful and rude. It was a small event, she could have had her 20 seconds with the first lady after the speech.

  28. Polyboy says

    Where in the HELL was GetEqual during the immigration debate and maneuvering on Congress.

    In light of their conspicuous absence there, that makes Sturtz’s ploy for attention and elevation as activist-celebrity even more nauseous.

    Getting pissy over a toothless executive order while being absent from the conversation in immigration issues for gay couples, demonstrates poor tactical thinking.

  29. Continuum says

    OK — first of all I agree that Obama should issue an executive ending workplace discrimination.

    But, I wish President Obama would show the same kind of intestinal fortitude in standing up to the right wing Rethuglicans that Mrs. Obama demonstrates.

    I am so tired of namby-pamby Democrats who don’t demand civility, commonsense, and facts from rightwing neocons and Xrstianists.

    I am tired of Dems who sit quietly in Sunday talk shows while the Rethugs and FRC clowns go off on rants, and spout demonstrably false statements and fantasies.

    When are the Dems going to grow a pair. (I’m talking to you Prez Obama and Senator Harry Reid.)

  30. Adam says

    Obama just wants our money. His failure to sign an executive order on discrimination is proof that he still needs more of our money. Hope, money…but no law reform from this President.

  31. says

    Is anyone really surprised that Michelle Obama never had any intentions of addressing Sturz’s concerns? Granted it may have been the wrong forum but then again why do we even bother with political forums where we can’t express and voice our thoughts and concerns only to be shut down by power glam political celebs who of course know that they know better than you and me….?

    http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2013/06/michelle-obama-will-not-tolerate-hecklers-thank-you-very-much/

  32. Dastius Krazitauc says

    “So why doesn’t her husband sign it?”

    According to the Washington Blade article, Debbie Wasserman Schultz has the answer:

    “Wasserman Schultz told the audience ENDA would be passed, but only with Democratic control of the U.S. House and urged those in attendance to max out their donations”.

  33. Polyboy says

    Adam… you are full of horse pockey.

    Executive orders do not “reform law.”

    Congress makes law.

  34. Jude says

    The hypocrisy among some of the commentors here is unbelievable. You’d have cheered Sturtz on had it been Laura Bush on the stage. The Dems know they have us in their pocket. They take us for granted! Don’t you get it? Make them work for it, please.

    Sturtz did the right thing. Gay activists have rubbed people the wrong way for decades now. We are where we are today because of them.

  35. MaryM says

    So why hasn’t Barack Obama signed the executive order?

    There is absolutely no excuse for him not to have done so.

    Barack Obama deserves condemnation for this.

    Michelle Obama on the other hand – well she’s not an elected official so what’s the point in heckling her?

  36. jamal49 says

    Somebody should have told Ellen Sturtz that Mrs. Obama doesn’t control policy. She showed a brazen lack of courtesy and respect. Anyway, Ellen Sturtz is an @$$hole and everyone KNOWS she is an @$$hole, including Ellen Sturtz.

  37. MateoM says

    Remember when we proved Adam was just another alias of Rick, and should be ignored? Remember when we proved MIke was a Republican troll and should be ignored? Remember when we proved Ratbastard posted under the alias Uffda to troll twice as hard on Towleroad, and should be ignored?

    I remember. And so should you all. Don’t feed the trolls. Particularly the obvious ones.

  38. ratbastard says

    It’s shill time! Shill time on TR!! Say ANYTHING ‘unkind’ about POTUS and his old lady and *BOOM!* Here come da shills.

  39. Kev C says

    The way I see it, Michelle Obama is not a good public speaker and she was floundering in this speech. Being heckled is the best thing that ever happened to her. It let her save face from her terrible speech.

  40. ratbastard says

    The First Lady was acting in the president’s capacity at that fundraiser. She was there to represent him. So yes, she’s fair game.

    Sad. Just sad. All the shill responses coming from people who would be GLOATING if it were a Republican first lady or president. There’d be 200 ECSTATIC posts on here if it ere GW and Laura Bush.

    The Gays are supposed to just STFU, give $, and vote for the ‘progressive’ candidates. They aren’t supposed to stray from the plantation…er, I mean, the big tent. Please.

    ATTENTION SHILLS:

    I AM NOT A REPUBLICAN OR CONSERVATIVE. RINSE, REPEAT.

  41. ratbastard says

    I remember. And so should you all. Don’t feed the trolls. Particularly the obvious ones.

    Posted by: MateoM | Jun 5, 2013 10:39:44 AM

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Oh Jesus…

    *eye roll* pot meet kettle.

  42. newz4i says

    Sturtz said in a statement released by GetEQUAL that she had “lived and worked in the closet, hiding who I was in order to earn a living.”

    GetEQUAL, until your hecklers learn how to be polite, get back into your closets.

  43. says

    GetEqual’s strategy isn’t to wait for an appropriate time and place to politely make their point. Their tactic has always been in your face (for better or worse depending on one’s POV about political tactics) and this is another example of that. They made their point and, because it was “inappropriate” behavior, it’s making the news. A polite question wouldn’t have.

    But, Sturtz shouldn’t have been too “taken aback” when the First Lady responded–get in someone’s face and you always risk having someone get in your face right back. That’s the price of confrontation, disingenuous to pretend otherwise. Michelle’s response seemed genuine in that she wasn’t prepared to deal with a shouting person in an otherwise non-confrontation setting and wasn’t willing to play along. Can’t blame her. It’s disconcerting to have someone start shouting at you out of the blue.

  44. MateoM says

    Rat, you’re a riot. Sorry I’m not sorry for pointing out your obvious trolling.

  45. says

    Mrs. Obama does not control White House policy and did not deserve to be treated in this manner. I’m all for protesting – but this was neither the time nor the place. Does anyone seriously believe heckling the President’s WIFE is going to spur him to action on an executive order protecting LGBT people? Luke “Sissyfag” Montgomery never did our community any favors and neither has Ms. Sturtz.

  46. unokhan says

    “gay rights don’t just happen. You have to fight for them”

    exactly, adam. as helen keller said (before polite society silenced her) “Rights are things we get when we are strong enough to make good our claim on them.”

  47. MateoM says

    Kim, do you have a brain tumor or a chemical imbalance? Because that isn’t sane thinking.

  48. Kev C says

    The job of Code Pink is to heckle politicians. Why do people always act surprised or get angry when they are trying to do their job?

  49. woodroad34d says

    I’m of two minds….Sturtz’s question is valid and Michelle could have handled it more graciously; however, as everyone pointed out, small room/clueless and obnoxious heckler. Perhaps security should have just dragged Sturtz out while Michelle remained silent and spoke her mind after Sturtz left.

  50. EchtKultig says

    “Old Lady”
    “Domestic Partner”

    Do the trolls not even TRY to conceal their racism? Why not just call her his “barnyard stall mate”? She’s his WIFE.
    The administration hasn’t been perfect on gay rights. They’ve only been 10X better than any previous administration. I’m not a DNC troll for saying that, I’m a person with a brain. This woman was being an idiot.

  51. Caliban says

    There is nothing wrong with continuing to push Obama for more action on gay issues, that’s what activists for any cause DO, but there’s a right and wrong way to go about it. Protest can be effective or counterproductive and (apparently) loudly heckling the First Lady while she’s speaking falls into the 2nd category.

    It’s also a total misreading of Michelle Obama to think she’s just going to meekly take your sh!t. Her handlers and PR people have effectively softened her image but Michelle Obama is a lawyer who, until not long before he became President, was the biggest earner in that family and nothing I’ve read suggests she was a shrinking violet. I suspect that behind that soft and warm facade that ALL first ladies are expected to project, Michelle Obama is NOT somebody you want to mess with! That’s actually one of the things I like about her.

  52. EchtKultig says

    “The job of Code Pink is to heckle politicians.”

    The First Lady is not a politician.

  53. Polyboy says

    And again, an executive order would not be all encompassing. There is a reason DADT was a congressional action, so it would be LAW.

    So, all this “sign the executive order” crap, is a smoke screen for trolling.

  54. anon says

    Considering that this made national news, it was extremely “effective”. The point of such stunts is to get it into the national media. The question now is whether or not Larry Kramer approves of this, since it’s right out of his playbook.

  55. Kev C says

    EchtKultig, you make it sound like being Barack Obama’s “domestic partner” is a bad thing. Do you even know where you are?

  56. J Y says

    Get a life, Adam. If the POTUS does this by executive order, it’s super easy to reverse it later without any debate or conversation simply by the NEXT President not signing it again. Maybe try looking at the forest for the trees for once. Also, why harass the FLOTUS? If anything, it makes GetEQUAL look like a bunch of jerks. She’s not the President, and this was in someone’s home.

  57. Caliban says

    “Effective” protest is action which results in either disseminating your cause to the public in a sympathetic manner or getting what you want. Getting in the media for behaving like a spoiled toddler achieves neither of those goals.

    When Michelle Obama is speaking at a fundraiser she’s there as a political agent, not just Obama’s wife. So speaking to her about issues you’d like to see addressed is entirely fair. To think otherwise is like saying “You shouldn’t talk to Joe Biden because he’s just the VP and they don’t have any power!” She was there as a representative of her husband.

    But going about it the way Ms Sturtz did just makes you (and your organization) look inept and ineffective.

  58. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  59. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  60. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  61. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  62. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  63. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  64. RBearSAT says

    Adam and ratbastard you are so taken in by the soapbox of GetEQUAL it’s almost embarrassing to read your rants. GetEQUAL only wants to grandstand and if there’s a chance to pull out those bullhorns or glitter, they will. But when it comes to effective dialogue, they, and apparently the two of you, are clueless at how to engage.

    As many have said, this president has done quite a bit. Yes, there’s still more to do but an EO can be overturned by the next president. Getting real laws passed are the right things to do but I guess that’s too hard for you or not grandstanding enough.

    BTW, gay hypocrites? Give me a break. My guess is you’ve never actually had a civil dialogue with any of your legislators or even know how to contact them. When I call mine, he takes my call. Why? Because he knows there won’t be some raging fanatic on the other line. There’s someone to actually discuss the details of the issues.

  65. Michael Bedwell says

    When did Her Royal Highness Nancy Reagan return to town? …. What’s that? …. It was The People’s First Lady Michelle effectively saying, “How DARE you confront ME.” Seriously, there has been much to admire about Mrs. Obama, and, yes, she wasn’t elected, per se, but if she chooses to leave the castle, to become a part of the political process, to engage in events where she asks for money by positing her husband as that “fierce advocate for gay equality” he crowned himself—which she repeatedly has—then she can also respect that free speech goes both ways. And, no, she is NOT the first First Lady to experience something like this though the others showed more class in their responses. As a President more courageous for his time than her husband is for his once said: “If you can’t stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.”

    As for the many “Don’t nobody be criticizin’ Massa or his Mrs” posts here, they simply prove that, even in 2013, gay self-loathing remains alive and unwell. “

  66. Lucas H says

    Of all the people to heckle about gay rights, Michelle Obama REALLY doesn’t deserve it. She’s been nothing but an advocate and ally since the beginning! WTH?

  67. BearlyBob says

    “This is something that I don’t do well.”

    Translation: “Imma about to go medieval on your ass.”

    I <3 MO.

  68. ratbastard says

    @EchtKultig,

    She was standing in for POTUS, her husband. She’s not a delicate china doll in her own right. She’s fair game.

    @MateoM,

    Mateo, EVERY TIME you accuse me of being a ‘troll’, it’s you who is in fact trolling. My posts are not trolls. I OCCASIONALLY bait someone who is dearly asking for it after saying endles mean spirited stuff about me, or endlessly accusing me of trolling.

  69. ratbastard says

    @RBearSAT,

    7 times? Really? Hey, sh*t happens, you double post. No biggie. 7 phuking times? Did your key stick? You seeing double vision?

  70. Jude says

    Seeing how ratbastard and adam are vilified for holding a valid, non-race-based, non-political-party-kissing-a$$ opinion, I see I’m supposed to avoid saying anything critical about the Obamas. Gee, the gun rights groups weren’t stupid enough to let everything slide with the GOP presidents.

  71. says

    Am I wrong in believing that an executive order can be easily undone with the stroke of the next President’s pen?

    Help a canuck out. thanks in advance.

  72. Icebloo says

    Michelle is all fake smiles when we give her & her husband gay dollars but we quickly see the real Michelle when we ask her to give us the same legal rights she already enjoys.

    Very disappointed in arrogant Michelle today. She has obviously got a very high opinion of herself.

    No more gay dollars from me …..

  73. james says

    When will the LGBT community learn that a Executive Order won’t help us, Yes Obama could sign one that bans federal contractors from discriminating against us, then the next President can cancel it. We need The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA). not an executive order, since the order would only be a temporary fix.

  74. Brian says

    C’mon people, there are literally thousands of examples of polite, deferential people who won their rights from powerful individuals like the Obamas through gentle, non-confrontational pleading.

    Okay… maybe not thousands. Hundreds.

    Dozens?

    One or two?

    Oh, no. There are none.

    While Michelle dines on the finest food money can buy and enjoys a role as the world’s most powerful woman in a life of luxury and privilege that few can imagine, LGBT people nationwide are — as a direct result of her and her husband’s “under-the-bus” political strategy — being separated from their families through bigoted immigration laws, having their kids taken from them, and worse.

    Compared to those REAL travails, our privileged First Lady can stand to listen to “the little people” express themselves in a non-deferential way.

  75. major707 says

    If you want to be a “real” protestor then you need to put yourself at risk…..aka: Rosa Parks, MLK, Dan Choi. Their protest were effective and brought about change. What Sturtz did was just rude and won her and Get Equal no friends.

  76. Jacques says

    What a jerk!

    Is there any way to let the heckler know that she has united the gays and heteros in our disgust with her.

    I wish there was a way to dissociate the gay rights movement from people like this.

  77. Andrew says

    I suppose the point is, why doesn’t he just sign it? He’s pushing marriage equality but not job protection?

  78. gb says

    Face the music MIchelle. I’m glad a lesbian spoke up. It brought attention to the issue.

  79. nick says

    I don’t know. There is something disturbing about Michelle Obama giving a speech imploring her audience to get more involved in government and then getting rid of a protester at the same time. I mean, isn’t that ultimately what the woman is doing??

  80. rocky says

    I thought First Ladies and their kids were not fair game. What next? Heckling at Sasha and Malia’s school play? After all they can talk to their dad to sign the papers right?

    To another poster: No I will be OK if this were done to Laura Bush either.

  81. MateoM says

    Alan Brickman may very well be the worst troll I’ve ever seen. He’s not even on the same planet as the rest of us.

  82. truthteller says

    I applaud Sturtz!

    The nay sayers who say she was rude and trash and blah, blah, blah are enslaved by the party dogma.

    If you consider her speaking up rude, you must be incensed at the thousands of GLBT people without legal protections, right?

    Lawyer, Michele Obama, should be able to handle the heat if she’s going to be a surrogate for her husband. The rest of you, STOP DRINKING THE COOL AID and look at the big picture.

  83. says

    the Big Picture is that an executive order can easily be undone via the executive order of the NEXT president.

    unless i’m wrong about that. am i wrong about that?

  84. Kevin says

    The Obama administration has stood on the coat tails of advances made by the LGBT community for ourselves, by ourselves. DADT was going down, no thanks to Obama, Marriage Equality is winning despite the waivering, luke warm support of Obama, now EDNA is stalled and it sure isn’t Obama who is going to get it moved.

    The reality is, they have done the bare minimum they could while still looking good enough to open up the GayTM and get the cash.

    About the only advance that this administration has really made in terms of LGBT equality is getting more A Gays invited to the White House Easter Egg Roll.

    I think they are open season for heckling. I am also genuinely surprised that folks seem to be arguing that if the gayz play nice and polite that the right will shut up. Not going to happen. You can be polite all you want and the Maggie Gallaghers of the world are still going to want your guts for garters.

  85. truthteller says

    @ Jacques. You write: “Is there any way to let the heckler know that she has united the gays and heteros in our disgust with her.”

    You don’t speak for “the gays” and she did no such thing.

    I can’t believe I’m in agreement with Ratbastard, but he’s right on this one.

    Yes, an executive order can be undone by the next president but after 4 years of non-discrimination and the majority of Americans supporting GLBT equality, it would be hell to pay if the next president undid it.

    You further embarrass yourself by writing: “I wish there was a way to dissociate the gay rights movement from people like this.”

    I bet you are the kind who would be ashamed of the drag queens who were “rude” and fought back and created the Stonewall riots that gave you the freedom and benefits you enjoy today. But of course, you probably think that came about by being a good pet and licking the masters’ feet.

  86. Kevin says

    Little Kiwi,

    It’s up to the individual who they want to support. Without raising a separate issue, I voted third party, others in my family did not. Between Romney and Obama, I think Obama was the wiser choice. I prefer inaction to obstruction any day.

    However, I would recommend that LGBT folk have the commonsense to hold their candidates/presidents feet to the fire on the issues that matter to us. One of the reasons why politicians actually push through legislation/laws/executive orders is the very real concern that they can lose the support of voting block. I think it needs to be made crystal clear to the Democrats that they can loose the LGBT vote and (more importantly, I’m sure) our money.

    I absolutely abhor the idea that if queer folk are nice enough that the right will somehow get the wind puffed out of their sails. They won’t. Look at the Prop 8 election in CA. Gays played nice and lost. When they finally got the gumption to get mad and protest and make noise it was too late and many folks outside the issue were wondering where all the furor was before. To be honest, I think marriage is not nearly as fundamental an issue as basic workplace protections. We should be spitting bullets that this legislation is stalled and heckle everyone we have to.

    Also, I would hate to see a community with as poor a sense of history as ours jump on a band wagon that Obama brought about all the incredible change we have seen the past six-ten years. It was gay activists, gay organizers, a wide variety of accepting individuals both queer and straight, who have done this work.

  87. SPEAK says

    @Sean Maloney – A better way would have been if the heckler had common courtesy and not shouted out. Why was the First Lady wrong? She did something that politician DON’T do, she spoke her mind with absolute truth and authority and I applaud her. And for those of you asking why doesn’t the President sign an “executive order”, please do us all a favor and see what that truly entails.

  88. Jude says

    Kevin is right on. We are a powerful voting bloc with a lot of $$. Many, many people non-gays agree with what we are fighting for. The Democrats are not our saviors, they work for us. Do they want to keep their job? They need to work for it.

    We owe no political party anything; only hard-working, courageous individuals such as Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand.

    You give up a lot of influence when you say “I’ll always vote for your party because you’re better than that other detestable party. Do absolutely nothing for us. We’ll love you anyway because at least you don’t say mean things about us. Never mind you won’t lift a finger.” If you knew a million dollars was already sitting in the bank, would you work for it?

    Criticizing the president once in a while won’t hurt him. It will help him, because he may start doing things to earn our respect. Then people will see we like him not because we have no other choice, but because he earned it.

  89. circuitmouse says

    Cindy Sheehan minded her manners when protesting. She also lost a son in the Gulf War.

    Officially, the First Lady has no say on Presidential actions (which the Republicans kept reminding us during the eight years Clinton was in the White House).

  90. truthteller says

    No, Little Kiwi, the big picture is that President Obama PROMISED he would sign an executive order back in 2008!

    The public is now solidly on the side of equality for GLBT people and I pity the fool who would undo such an order. BTW, an executive order does not exclude the passage of EDNA.

  91. Chris says

    To all those saying that she “was standing in for the president”.
    NO, she wasn’t. It was a political fundraiser, yes. At the home of a prominent lesbian couple, and the first lady was giving a speech about the difficulties of disadvantaged black children at the grade school she attended. Could there have been a more incompetent time to heckle?
    Heckling, as a political device, is only effective if well planned. GetEQUAL’s actions are never well planned. They serve only to publicize themselves. GetEQUAL has succeeded in portraying the gay community as racist, rude, and incompetent. Congratulations GetEQUAL! If your goal was to make fools of yourselves and derail real progress, you succeeded.
    And to everyone whining about the executive order. Obama didn’t sign it for the same reason JFK didn’t sign an executive order ending segregation. Executive orders are at the whim of the administration in power, unlike legislation passed by congress. So when an Anti-Gay candidate is elected, and we all know it will happen, the executive order would be history. GetEQUAL and a number of commenters here should take a sixth grade civics class so they can stop making foold of themselves.

  92. Robert Johnson says

    It is time for Mr. Obama to resign. He no longer has thee trust or support of most people in the USA. With recent breaks concerning his homosexual behavior, his ability to lead will drop even more. It’s just time for him to go.