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Bigot Insults Trans Man During Televised 'Debate' on CNN - VIDEO


California Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill two days ago enacting new legal protections for transgender students. Thanks to the new law, trans public school students will now be allowed to use the restroom and locker facilities and play on the sports teams that correspond to their desired gender. The landmark decision was naturally praised by some and lamented by others. 

EqualityCNN recently tried to feature just a small portion of that debate during one of its broadcasts. To do so, they brought on Masen Davis, the Executive Director of the Transgender Law Center, and Randy Thomasson, president of the SPLC-identified hate group Save California. The debate proceeded rather unremarkably, with Thomasson repeatedly claiming that the new “sexual indoctrination laws” violates the privacy of cisgender students. It wasn't until the very end of the debate that Thomasson decided to end the debate with an unnecessary and bigoted bang. 

As host Brooke Baldwin thanked her two guests, Thomasson countered back with a placid “hey, good to talk to you ladies.”

Davis, who behaved rather placidly on the air, shared his thoughts on the barbed comment with Raw Story

"Thomasson’s attempt to disrespect my own gender identity by referring to me as a ‘lady’ said more about him than me (I’m no lady, and clearly he is no gentleman). I am comfortable in my own skin, and proud of my journey as a transgender man. I have heard, though, from many transgender people and allies who are very upset by his shallow attempt to mis-gender me. Failing to honor the gender identity of a transgender person is a common way for anti-equality zealots to try to undermine our credibility and humanity...I am surprised and disappointed that CNN relied on Randy Thomasson, described by Media Matters as the leader of an ‘anti-LGBT hate group,’ to discuss the passage of California’s AB1266 (the School Success and Opportunity Act). Thomasson’s extremist sentiments exemplify why transgender youth and adults alike need legal protection from discrimination and bias. I urge CNN to engage more reasoned and legitimate ‘experts’ in future segments about transgender issues."

Perhaps Thomasson is still bitter about being previously humiliated while on the airwaves. Or perhaps Thomasson and Save California are simply following their usual pattern of fearmongering and making hateful and ignorant remarks.

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  1. Disgusting comment - more disgusting to think about how long he spent patting himself on the back for that.

    Posted by: Tigerama | Aug 14, 2013 5:50:11 PM

  2. I think the best thing we can do to eliminate our fears is to actually sit down and talk with someone with whom we are afraid, or don't understand. We have to be willing to actually dialogue with an open mind. And yes, we are going to have lots of tough questions, and hopefully they can all be addressed. No one should be expected to understand something of which they have no experience. But to be bigoted because we refuse to even get to know someone is wrong.

    Of course, many of those who don't understand transgender people are going to be afraid of them or worry about their little girl having a little "boy" walking in on them in the locker room. So let's help these people eliminate their fears. Let's talk about that. Talk to a transgender kid. I bet you, none of them are the monsters Mr. Protect the Majority thinks they are. Let's address not only the parents' fears, but the children's fears. If a little girl (let's call her Maria) understands that Sara is transgender, and even though Sara may have a penis, she identifies as a girl and wants to do all the things girls do.... then Maria is going to be more accepting and comfortable when Sara changes into her gym clothes. Kids just need to learn, and so do the parents. That's all. Just learn.

    Listen more. Seek to understand. That could solve SO many of our society's problems. When we seem to understand that which we actually don't, problems arise.... and this is the perfect example.

    Posted by: Marc | Aug 14, 2013 6:01:19 PM

  3. Good to talk to you ladies thank you =====what a asshat

    Posted by: Walter | Aug 14, 2013 6:01:27 PM

  4. OK - seems like they have deleted the small section of this clip where the insult happens. What gives? Did CNN make this edit themselves or from some group/individual request??

    Posted by: C B | Aug 14, 2013 6:01:30 PM

  5. It's a hard one for many to swallow. But they're bigots regardless. That term never runs out of handy uses.

    Posted by: KY | Aug 14, 2013 6:25:26 PM

  6. Karma just got him right in his tiny little balls. The California Supreme Court just put a knife in the back of Prop H8. It's over. Prop H8 is DEAD!

    Posted by: TomTallis | Aug 14, 2013 6:27:31 PM

  7. ...I am surprised and disappointed that CNN relied on Randy Thomasson, described by Media Matters as the leader of an ‘anti-LGBT hate group,’ to discuss the passage of California’s AB1266 (the School Success and Opportunity Act).

    It's WHY CNN picked him. How could anyone be surprised that any 24 news organization is going to select the most inbred, semi-literate, small penised, assclown bigot. That sort of squeaky-pitched drama is what they think is journalism because it's more apt to be written about the next day. Just like what's happened here.

    To anyone going on a "news show" don't be surprised that you will be talking against a loud cretin. Expect it.

    Posted by: Bart | Aug 14, 2013 6:34:35 PM

  8. Heavens to Betsy, this person has a ridiculously strong motivation to prove to the world that he's heterosexual and his only motivation for hating so many people he's never met nor had any contact with is to protect the children from the influences of nature.

    Hmmm... Who else do we know who represents themselves as the protectors and saviors of humanity who's only in it for the children...?

    Let me ask my priest. I'm sure HE knows...

    Posted by: MikeInSanJose | Aug 14, 2013 7:11:09 PM

  9. Should we respect what trans people want to be called? Absolutely.

    Should trans people adhere to the same rule of conduct? Absolutely.

    I am not a "cis." I don't call myself that. Don't call me that.

    I am not LGBT. I am a gay man. It took me a long time to say that with pride. Don't mislabel me. I am not a letter in an alphabet and my identity is not trans and should not be linked with trans.

    If trans people won't stop calling me LGBT and "cis" then I don't see why I should be upset when others disrespect them.

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Aug 14, 2013 9:04:55 PM

  10. Sorry, but I'm gonna be the voice of dissent. Why should there be a whole extension of rights to people just because they "feel" like they are the opposite sex?? I understand in cases of being born with both sex organs (hermaphrodite), but just because a male decides he feels more feminine and wants to start wearing womens clothing, and be called by a womens name (or vice versa), he or she should now be afforded all the rights of the opposite sex?
    That's just beyond ridiculous! Worse yet, it's being encouraged in children?

    Sexual orientation (hetero and same sex) is natural- science backs that up, and it's even visible in the animal kingdom. But the transgender movement is nothing but a Frankensteinesque offshoot of the LGB drive for equality. It defies everything that is natural- biology and natural social order. Take into account:

    *Transgender people cant even EXIST without clothing of the opposite gender, or to a more extreme, hormone therapy of the opposite gender and the assistance of several routines by a team of skilled surgeons.

    *The core of transgenderism is experiencing sexuality as the opposite sex, with the same sex. The majority of Transgender people worldwide (Thailand, Middle Eastern counteries, South America, North America) are heavily in the sex trade- pornography, prostitution, etc.

    *If society were to collapse world wide back to a primitive state, Heterosexual and Homosexual individuals would still be able to thrive. Transgender people would not be able to exist as their entire existence is cosmetic based (wigs, opposite gender clothing, opposite gender hormones, plastic surgery, therapy, etc.)

    Posted by: E.nigma | Aug 14, 2013 9:19:59 PM

  11. I am not a "cis." I don't call myself that. Don't call me that.

    I am not LGBT. I am a gay man. It took me a long time to say that with pride. Don't mislabel me. I am not a letter in an alphabet and my identity is not trans and should not be linked with trans.


    ^^^^^ THIS x 1,000

    Posted by: Henry Holland | Aug 14, 2013 10:53:15 PM

  12. Well, at the vert least this comment thread took longer and usual to devolve into nonsensical transphobic bullsh*t.

    P.S. You're cisgendered and make up the G in LGBT, Bill. Get over it.

    Posted by: JMC | Aug 14, 2013 11:07:57 PM

  13. Transgender people would not be able to exist - E.nigma

    They would still exist, it's not just about wearing opposite sex clothing as you put it, but from what I understand it's who they are inside, the feeling they were born the wrong, they would still be here, just not as visible I guess & certainly, they wouldn't have access to surgery to complete the esthetic aspects, which is just one aspect of being trans - hence to word.

    Posted by: In Nomine | Aug 14, 2013 11:17:10 PM

  14. OK. Mister Davis has a point. He should be called gentleman.
    Now, allow me to echo others posts and say that I deplore being categorized as "cis" gender... it's not like we're cis/trans fat, come on!

    Posted by: ElCid | Aug 14, 2013 11:34:26 PM

  15. This site is chock-full of cisgender LGBT bigots.

    Posted by: Matthew | Aug 15, 2013 12:00:29 AM

  16. I see that Towle has basically allowed his formerly interesting site to be totally transjacked. This "RJ" who has done nothing but push his transsexual agenda of gay-hate in his constant posts, has put the final nail in the coffin. Had enough!

    Posted by: tom | Aug 15, 2013 12:58:54 AM

  17. @Tom: Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

    Posted by: TheDrDonna | Aug 15, 2013 1:41:04 AM

  18. @ Everyone else: what word should be used to describe someone who isn't transgender? And please don't say normal, because then I'll ask you why we shouldn't say normal instead of "straight", "white", or "Christian".

    Posted by: Thedrdonna | Aug 15, 2013 1:52:10 AM

  19. "cis" is just the quivalent of "straight". You're cis if you're not transgendered. I don't see the problem, and surely you never ask straight people if they want to be called straight, do you?

    Anyway, once again, trolls are en masse in this comment section. I now very much dislike reading Towleroad comments.

    Posted by: Jols | Aug 15, 2013 2:17:27 AM

  20. DrDonna,

    It doesn't matter what word we use to describe the 99.9% of the population that is not trans. We can simply say non-trans or we can come up with our own word. The point is you don't get to create that word and impose it on us against our will. And if you do, you don't get to demand from us that we not do the same to you.

    So as long as trans activists tell us that we are cis and LGBT whether we want to be called that or not, then we'll return the disrespect. You are a man. You are a shemale. You are a tranny. You are a he-she. Enjoy it.

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Aug 15, 2013 12:10:16 PM

  21. @Bill, haha, you are a tool. Way to not answer the question. Did you ask straights if they wanted to be called that before you "inflicted" it on them?

    Posted by: Thedrdonna | Aug 15, 2013 12:32:37 PM

  22. @DrDonna,

    What do you have against tools? It took a lot of tools and a lot of tool users to create the illusion that you are a female.

    I don't think that gay people created the word straight and imposed it on heterosexuals. I have never heard a heterosexual complain about being called straight but I have heard gay people complain that using the word straight for heterosexuals implies that gays are crooked. So no I don't think it is comparable to cis, where a bunch of trans activist thugs invented the word and imposed it on the world. A better comparison would be "breeder." Gays did create that word a long time ago, but it would never be used as anything but an insult. In ordinary discourse, you would never call a heterosexual a breeder and then tell him that he should just accept it because the gays have decided what he should be called. You only see that kind of disgusting arrogance from trans activists, who don't respect or care about anyone but themselves.

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Aug 15, 2013 2:15:29 PM

  23. What do you think of the "die cis scum" phrase used by trans activists? Do you think that is funny? Why are trans activists so evil?

    Posted by: Bill Perdue | Aug 15, 2013 2:18:49 PM

  24. and the great news is, that anti-trans gay men are the biggest most useless cowards ever and so you never really "see" or "hear" their disgusting bigotry in the real world, simply because they don't have the cojones to say it out loud. only online, and only ever anonymously.

    so take solace, my glorious transgendered brothers and sisters - the people who hate you only hate you because you live with a strength and resilience that they'll never know. you will outlast them, and your allies will stand with you until the battle is won.

    so yay :D

    Posted by: Little Kiwi | Aug 15, 2013 2:20:55 PM

  25. Little Kiwi is going bald!

    Posted by: Jase | Aug 15, 2013 4:16:55 PM

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