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Why is Hormone Therapy a Medical Necessity for Chelsea Manning? — VIDEO

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Lauren McNamara (aka Zinnia Jones), an activist and friend and former defense witness for Chelsea Manning explains why hormone therapy is a medical necessity for trans people and why Chelsea ought to be treated in prison:

"We sentence people to incarceration. We do not sentence them to untreated medical conditions. We don't sentence them to untreated gender dysphoria just as we don't sentence them to untreated kidney failure, untreated infections, or anything else of the sort. When the government takes on inmates and incarcerates them, it becomes responsible for their medical care. And this condition from a medical and scientific perspective is no different from any other medical condition that requires treatment. And increasingly from a legal perspective as well. Civilian courts have found in almost all cases that prisons are required to provide hormone therapy and increasingly surgery as well. Not to do so is considered cruel and unusual punishment under the Eighth Amendment."

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  1. It really comes down to what are the obligations of the government towards its prisoners. We can all express our opinions, but in the end, it is up to the courts to decide what qualifies as "cruel and unusual".

    Pvt. Manning conceded to the judge the obligation to pay a penalty for Pvt. Manning's actions. That penalty may include having to inhabit a body with gender characteristics that Pvt. Manning finds repugnant while serving the prison term that the judge meted out. If Manning wishes to litigate that condition of imprisonment, let the courts hear it.

    Posted by: Rich | Aug 25, 2013 3:44:21 AM


  2. Now I remember why I stopped reading this site :( Too much hate against trans people.

    Posted by: Dissappointed | Aug 25, 2013 4:17:58 AM


  3. To Ms. Kiwi and other trans-sympathizers:

    Simply stating that one does not believe it's the government's responsibility to pay for Manning's surgeries and treatments does not mean one is "anti-trans". Also stating that the treatment is not 100% necessary because it's truly not a LIFE-THREATENING situation is also not "anti-trans".

    I'm fine with the T on LGBT, but I'm not going to give them whatever they want every time they ask for it because otherwise I'll be labeled "anti-trans" or a "hater". They're trans, not special snow flakes.

    Thanks for reading.

    (takes a bow).

    -much love, Johnny

    Posted by: johnny | Aug 25, 2013 7:28:58 AM


  4. Interesting how "hate" is used by you as an attack in precisely the same manner in which you accuse us. You act like children, throwing a tantrum because not everyone agrees with you all te time or refuses to be bullied into paying for something you have no right whatsoever to demand of us. Since that is what you call "hate", which it clearly is whether you are mature in mind enough to realize or not, I can live with it. Call us whatever name you wish if you like but understand this: if you cannot even convince those you wish to ally yourselves with without behaving like an azz and employing bullying tactics, you'll do far worse with everyone else. A puece of advice: Ratcheting up the noxious rhetoric won't get you far either, but I doubt you'll listen.

    Posted by: JohnAGJ | Aug 25, 2013 7:34:35 AM


  5. *Eye roll*. This does not help the case for gay rights. Not a bit.

    Posted by: ChrisQ | Aug 25, 2013 8:32:14 AM


  6. Oh, just dope him up on SSRIs and anti-anxiety meds. He'll be zombiefied, lose any sex drive he has, get fat with sagging man t*ts, big a**, belly, hips. He'll be fine. Sarcasm off.

    I don't buy for a minute he'll be OK once he gets hormone therapy. I think Bradley has serious mental health issues in addition to his gender identity issue. Unfortunately for him, he has to abide by the regulations in place for a military prison. I don't care if he gets hormone treatment, as long as it's not super expensive and being paid for by the government [taxpayers]. But I doubt they'll go for it. Now if he was in Massachusetts state prison, that's a different story.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Aug 25, 2013 10:01:21 AM


  7. This subject has nothing to do with gay rights and Im tired of gay blogs being taken over by trans activists this week to push their agendas.

    Posted by: Jerry | Aug 25, 2013 10:30:48 AM


  8. I am horrified at the negative attitude toward trans people on a gay website. You people have learned nothing.

    You need to LISTEN to trans people, empathize, and shut your damn mouths until you have understood.

    You need to pay attention when medical, psychological, and psychiatric associations explain what is and is not medical necessity.

    And you need to get over the idea that punishment for crimes should include cruelty and withholding medical care.

    Posted by: AdamK | Aug 25, 2013 10:57:55 AM


  9. Perhaps my reading of this post is skewed and mistaken, but I do find it tenuous and thready to rationalize the medical necessity of hormone therapy treatment based upon a pathological condition; it's only pathological if transgendered folk, like Chelsea, are denied this therapy, and more. Otherwise, it gives the ignorant and transphobic unwarranted and dubious grounds for maintaining their ignorance, fear and hatred of what they do not understand (willfully or not).

    Posted by: Koskalaka Maricón | Aug 25, 2013 11:15:39 AM


  10. @Johnny:

    "I'm fine with the T on LGBT, but I'm not going to give them whatever they want every time they ask for it"

    Unfortunately, Johnny, the whole point of inventing LGBT was to make it impossible for LGBs to ever say no. To make it impossible for LGBs to even think about whether any particular trans activist demand makes sense and to think about whether it makes sense for LGBs to spend limited energy and resources on such demands.

    Prior to the invention of LGBT, LGBs were allies with Ts. We could fight together on certain issues, like hate crimes and bullying, when it made sense to do so. But we kept our own identity as gay people. We always got the final say as to what was in our best interests.

    But that wasn't enough for the trans activists. They wanted to be able to demand things, not ask for them. They needed a larger group to do their work for them, even while they provided nothing in return. Thus, LGBT was born. If you accept LGBT, you are inevitably accepting a situation where gay and lesbian people - who have plenty of their own issues and goals to deal with - are commanded to take up the banner of taxpayer funded hormone treatments for felons.

    Posted by: Dana | Aug 25, 2013 11:53:49 AM


  11. I'm disturbed by the "conform or shut up" position of transsexual activists here.

    Posted by: Knock | Aug 25, 2013 2:41:33 PM


  12. I'm much more disturbed by the anti-trans sentiment.

    We could discuss the issue of treating gender dysphoria in prison, which I can recognize is a complicated issue (how far does the responsibility of the state go? how much should the government pay? who's eligible? etc)... but it is impossible to discuss it with people that are so obviously anti-trans, or at best completely unempathetic to any other oppressed group that is not their own.

    Posted by: Fiveht | Aug 25, 2013 4:14:15 PM


  13. It's impossible to discuss anything with someone who declares you "anti-trans" or a "hater" or deserving of discrimination for not agreeing with the prescribed LGBTQQ2SAetc position.

    If we aren't free to have individual opinions, we aren't free to have individual identities. "No freedom until we're equal" does not mean "no freedom until we're identical".

    Posted by: Knock | Aug 25, 2013 11:41:38 PM


  14. Lauren is an incredible spokesperson. Bravo.

    Posted by: Marc | Aug 26, 2013 4:13:38 AM


  15. You are free to have different opinions. But not all opinions are equal and more than a few here /are/ anti-trans. Come one, using the term "genital mutilation"? It's like out of the homophobe playbook.

    If you're willing to have a real discussion, out of a place of respect, it's all cool. Some commenters here are not starting from that place and cloak their bigotry in 'opinion'. Where have we heard that before? Yeah, those of us who are LGBs are not the same as the Ts. Different issues, different challenges, etc... but we should have a greater ability to empathize with them more, not less, since we receive similar vitriol from those who hate us.

    (And we should also be able to empathize more with victims of racism, sexism, etc...)

    Posted by: Fiveht | Aug 26, 2013 1:31:12 PM


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