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Russian Lawmaker Proposes Bill to Take Children Away from Gay Parents

Gay parents would lose custody of their children under the terms of a new bill proposed in Russia, the AP reports:

ZhuravlevThe draft bill, published on parliament’s website on Thursday, would make the “fact of nontraditional sexual orientation” a basis for denying custody. Other grounds include alcoholism, drug use, and abuse...Alexei Zhuravlev (pictured), the author of the bill, referred to the earlier law and said that homosexual “propaganda” had to be banned not only in the public space “but also in the family.”

A Russian report says that Zhuravlev's bill hopes to amend Article 69 (Termination of Parental Rights) of the Family Code with a measure that says that having gay parents can do "great harm" to a child's mind.

Said Zhuravlev: "The bill is for those whose families have broken up due to non-traditional contacts of one of the spouses, or parents who do not hide sexual relations with persons of the same sex." Zhuravlev went on to tell the paper that if a spouse suspects her husband is a practicing homosexual, "We have a court and the Investigative Committee..."

Attorneys expressed skepticism, noting that it is difficult to prove certain relationships and the bill would be used speculatively and create many fraudulent and provocative custody lawsuits.

In the documents submitted with the bill, Zhuravlev referred to the flawed, misleading, and scientifically unsound report on gay parenting conducted by UT-Austin professor Mark Regnerus and sponsored by U.S. religious right-wing groups.

Yesterday, in an interview with the AP, Russian President Vladimir Putin denied the existence of anti-gay laws in Russia, and said athletes and activists would not be punished for expressing support for gay rights in Sochi.

Putin also claimed that Russia gives awards to gays:

"I assure you that I work with these people. I sometimes award them with state prizes or decorations for their achievements in various fields. We have absolutely normal relations, and I don't see anything out of the ordinary here. They say that Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky was a homosexual. Truth be told, we don't love him because of that, but he was a great musician, and we all love his music. So what?"

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  1. Comrade Stalin must be smiling....

    Posted by: AdamTh | Sep 5, 2013 7:48:47 AM


  2. ....amd so it Really begins, the NAZIfication of Russia....STEALING Children away from thier parents? Its SICK, pathetic,Cruel.......this is one F'd up world...Humans suck!

    Posted by: disgusted american | Sep 5, 2013 7:53:09 AM


  3. t's easy for Putin to love the music of dead gay composers and just as easy not tolove living gay citizens.

    Posted by: gregorybrown | Sep 5, 2013 7:55:55 AM


  4. As a gay parent who was attacked by the religious right, this bill has America's evangelicals filthy evil fingers all over it. The children will be the one's hurt the most by this evil and ill conceived bigoted law. Zeig heil!! The camps and ovens will be next.

    Posted by: Rob | Sep 5, 2013 8:02:38 AM


  5. Russia is desperate to boost it's native [ethnic Russian] population which is in a death spiral. Their demographics are horrendous. Even Russia's life expectancy rates are 3rd world-like, not like a 1st world nation. In a word, they need a lot of procreation going on. The implications for homosexuals in all this are obvious. Not dissimilar to the early Hebrews in the old testament, where Saul made his famous/infamous remarks in Leviticus.

    Putin has strongly allied himself with the Orthodox church, as a form of Russian nationalism and trans-Slavic ethnocentralism. I think he and Russia's leadership also want to differentiate themselves somehow from The West, especially in the eyes of the Russian people. Finally, seems every movement, ideology, etc., needs some individual/demographic/group to direct their hatred at, to blame for [fill in the blank]. Homosexuals are playing this role in Russia at the moment.

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    Who was responsible for all the 'amateur' gay porn, especially involving young men of questionable age, post fall of the USSR, in Russia and elsewhere in Eastern Europe? What individuals, groups, criminal gangs were most responsible? Anyone know?

    Posted by: ratbastard | Sep 5, 2013 8:06:58 AM


  6. i can't wait to see how this squares with recent comments from the russian government "gays have the same rights as everyone else". hiding behind children and using them as a shield to pass laws aimed only to further bigotry is as disgusting as the law itself.

    Posted by: northalabama | Sep 5, 2013 8:17:26 AM


  7. As we are vilified and compared to Nazi's by the right wing, the true Nazi behavior is swept away under the guise of "religion". Won't someone think of the children. Yes, these children - the one's in comfortable family homes being wrenched from loving families. I wonder if it will all take place at a train station where children are loaded onto freight cars by their appearance and adherence to Russian ideals (sound familiar)?

    Posted by: Hey Darlin' | Sep 5, 2013 8:20:51 AM


  8. Regnerus, happy now?

    Posted by: bollox | Sep 5, 2013 8:43:16 AM


  9. Russia is living the American extremist right wing homophobic bigots' wet dream regarding the degrading of its LGBT citizens through these new Nazi-like laws. And, yet, Putin denies Russia's LGBT citizens are being persecuted. What does that man smoke every day? He's living and governing in a purple haze of denial.

    Posted by: HadenoughBS | Sep 5, 2013 9:01:54 AM


  10. Notice the underlying skepticism is not that the idea is wrong, but that heterosexuals may use it to scam the system...

    Posted by: Michaelandfred | Sep 5, 2013 9:14:20 AM


  11. HEY IOC: Had Enough Yet???

    I am sure that this kind of thing will be the lynch pin for youse-all to MOVE THE OLYMPICS TO ANOTHER HOST(s) City.

    No? It's not?

    Well then, all that is left to do in Russia is to cart all the Gays away, out of site, to the gulags - now that it is illegal to be gay In Public and IN THE PRIVACY OF ONE'S HOME.

    Gives a whole new meaning to 'Gay Camp'

    Maybe the IOC will help then.

    But somehow I doubt it.

    Posted by: dean | Sep 5, 2013 9:23:59 AM


  12. Russia keeps going backwards in time. Now they're "cleansing" their society much like they did in the 40s and 50s.

    Sick, frightening and tragic, all at once.

    Posted by: johnny | Sep 5, 2013 9:50:55 AM


  13. Uhm, aren't 99% of Russian's alcoholics?

    Posted by: Phoenix Justice | Sep 5, 2013 9:51:35 AM


  14. Just like Heinrich Himler

    Posted by: Sean | Sep 5, 2013 10:53:11 AM


  15. Out of public view, not allowed in your home, next we come for your womb...

    Posted by: gb | Sep 5, 2013 11:21:10 AM


  16. The Duma will pass this one unanimously too. This ends in genocide.

    Posted by: Leroy Laflamme | Sep 5, 2013 3:29:52 PM


  17. There's still time .. sign the Change.org petition called: International Olympics Committee : Elect a New IOC President that Actively Condemns Russia's Anti-Gay Law

    http://www.change.org/petitions/international-olympics-committee-elect-a-new-ioc-president-that-actively-condemns-russia-s-anti-gay-laws

    Posted by: Daniel McWarren | Sep 5, 2013 6:27:33 PM


  18. If this is passed then I don't know what to think any more. This is one f-ked country. Next gay kids will be taken from their families for 'reprogramming'. Unbelievable!

    Posted by: Will | Sep 5, 2013 6:44:39 PM


  19. I've read some furious Russians write (in English by the way, no excuse for not having outside information) "why do you call Putin and his government fascist? Because he defends traditional Christian values etc? NO, it is because of things like this. They all will pay the dire price, gays are just the canary in the poisoned mine.

    Posted by: SAYTHETRUTH | Sep 5, 2013 9:53:46 PM


  20. Perhaps now gay Russian parents can take Regnerus to the same court as Lively.

    Posted by: Randy | Sep 6, 2013 5:20:04 PM


  21. The way our President is falling apart. Who cares? It can be the other side of the US spectrum. See who fares better? What "dire price" were gays having in 1965 when they couldn't do anything they do today? Before they could drag children into their inevitable dramas.

    Posted by: Paul | Sep 6, 2013 10:54:51 PM


  22. They should actually read Mark Regnerus' study carefully. His definition of a "gay parent" included the case where a kid was raised by his straight mother because she and his gay father divorced. He also had next to zero cases in which a child was raised by two same-sex parents in a stable relationship.

    Where Regnerus' analysis was deficient is that he did not discuss the fact that he was basically looking backwards in time - he interviewed the "children" after they had grown up. What his data actually suggests is that homophobia, particularly state-sanctioned homophobia, harms children by contributing to breaking up families or coercing gays into marriages that were doomed to fail.

    Regnerus' idea of interviewing adults to find out how they were doing and looking for correlations with the family structures in which they were raised is not a bad one when conditions are static, but they are not static - attitudes about gays and the level of discrimination is changing.

    If you repeat his study in twenty to forty years, you'd get a different outcome because you'd include children raised by stable same-sex households. My guess is that you'd find much better outcomes in states that allow same-sex marriages than in those that don't.

    Posted by: Bill | Sep 7, 2013 4:04:44 PM


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