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NJ Diner Customer Engages Chris Christie In Same-Sex Marriage Debate At Campaign Stop

A New Jersey diner does not necessarily conjure images of political debate, but Governor Chris Christie found himself embroiled in one on Tuesday morning. When Bert Bueno, a customer at an Edison, NJ diner decided to question Christie about his same-sex marriage politics, the resulting conversation was remarkably calm and reinforced much of what we already knew about the Republican's stance. 

ChristieChristie vetoed same-sex marriage legislation last year and, in response to the recent court ruling which affirmed the rights of same-sex couples to marry in the Garden State, he has said that he would like the issue to be decided at the ballot box. His critics believe that same-sex marriage, as a human rights issue, has no place being voted on as a general ballot measure. 

The Star-Ledger reports:

"How come you're in opposition?" Bueno, a straight woman, asked.

"Listen: Lots of different people have different views on this," Christie responded. "I think marriage should be between a man and a woman.

"My view is: If you want to change it, put it on the ballot," he continued. "Let everybody decide. It shouldn't be decided by courts, it shouldn't be decided by politicians in Trenton. It should be decided by everybody. If the majority of the people of New Jersey want same-sex marriage, I'll enforce the law."

BarbbuonoNew polls suggest that a ballot measure in support of same-sex marriage would likely be passed. Nearly two-thirds of those polled agreed with Judge Jacobson's decision to legalize gay marriage, and Christie's opponent in the upcoming election, State Senator Barbara Buono (right) is defiantly pro-gay rights.

"It's a human rights issue," Bueno insisted.

"Says you," Christie responded. "The fact is: We've been very supportive of a lot of other things, like banning gay conversion therapy. This is an issue where we have an honest difference of opinion. Okay, so you put it on the ballot — you vote your way, I vote my way. And whoever gets the most votes wins."

When asked whether or not he would engage with the LGBT community in order to understand their feelings on the issue, Christie replied:

"I have relatives who are gay, I have friends who are gay," Christie said. "I think I have an understanding. That's not the point. We have a difference of opinion.

He continued: "The fact is: I'm open to having conversations with anybody, but I don't think it's going to change my point of view."

"I appreciate this interaction," Bueno told Christie.

"Sure," the governor said. "Me too."

Kudos to Bueno for utilizing a campaign stop, usually reduced to mundane cheering and celebration, for the furthering of a political cause. What do you think of their interaction? Will this press impact his campaign bid negatively? 

(Photo of Governor Christie via Facebook)

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  1. What a nasty anti-gay piece of filth!

    Posted by: litper | Oct 9, 2013 11:42:22 AM

  2. haha Kristie Creme...well played

    Posted by: Dex | Oct 9, 2013 11:53:11 AM

  3. Porky's a liar. He may very well have family members who are gay. Friends? Never!! Unless you count the closeted, self-loathing kind. Jewish Nazis - all-too-happy to switch on the gas to save their own miserable hides.

    Posted by: Geoff | Oct 9, 2013 11:55:14 AM

  4. "Says you"... the man is a d*ck with no tact or editing mechanism... and he flies off the handle at nothing.

    "Gov. Christie Kreme"... now *that's funny.

    Posted by: kaccompany | Oct 9, 2013 12:03:25 PM

  5. he should be protested at EVERY campaign stop

    Posted by: r | Oct 9, 2013 12:18:34 PM

  6. @Dex and @Kaccompany haha - Southerners will get that. LOL I didn't even know if Krispy Kreme was in the Northeast.

    Gov. Christie Kreme - feel free to use that. It can be the next "santorum".

    Posted by: NotSafeForWork | Oct 9, 2013 12:36:47 PM

  7. I would say what self respecting homosexual would be friends with someone who doesn't think they deserve marriage right but then I quickly remembered there are gay republicans which, if I may add, can't fathom our economy actually does better when the democrats are in charge.

    Posted by: Michael | Oct 9, 2013 12:47:05 PM

  8. I am sorry you cannot say "I have relatives or friends who are gay" and then summarily dismiss their "Freedom" to Marry whom they choose to love!!!! Height of hypocrisy and that would be also likened to "I have friends who are Black" or "Jewish", etc......

    Posted by: aj | Oct 9, 2013 1:13:28 PM

  9. What is this "let everyone decides" even things which have nothing to do with them?

    Posted by: simon | Oct 9, 2013 2:33:22 PM

  10. The gay community overwhelmingly voted for Obama when he didn't support gay marriage. Having a homophobic president was cool then...

    Posted by: WeHo | Oct 9, 2013 3:16:49 PM

  11. @WEHO: You seem to have forgotten who Obama's opponents were and that they would have appointed different people to the Supreme Court, which is kind of a big deal re: marriage equality, in case you've also forgotten the recent Windsor decision. Obama also wasn't singlehandely preventing a state from equality, Christie is. Clear now?

    Posted by: Ernie | Oct 9, 2013 4:03:26 PM

  12. Didn't Christie get his stomach tied off? He must be getting the food in some other way.

    My family USA-side (3 NJ voters, 1 gay) are certainly not be voting for him, neither will their friends. A lot of people are irritated with him, though not only on this particular issue. Wait and see, wait and see… the tide is turning faster than we ever thought possible.

    Posted by: tinkerbelle | Oct 9, 2013 4:32:07 PM


    Christie needs the support of catholic interests who put him into office, and will not be disloyal to them.
    He possibly even agrees with marriage privately, but not politically.

    A vote would not only be devisive, but might cost A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, because it requires the NYC and Philly TV markets.

    Posted by: Bob | Oct 9, 2013 4:42:26 PM

  14. "I have friends who are gay"

    Aww.. isn't that sweet. He thinks sucking up to him means you're his friend. He's going to learn a hard life lesson in a few years.

    Posted by: Randy | Oct 9, 2013 6:10:39 PM

  15. What GW Bush did to the GOP with his god awful presidency is nothing like what John Corzine did to the Democrats in New Jersey. Corzine set the NJ Democratic party back a decade and made Christie possible. Democrats are less forgiving of their bad politicians than the GOP.

    Christie also promotes the tough "Jersey guy" persona. He fancies himself a Tony Sopranoesque character, tough mob boss image. Christie is all blowhard and bullsh*t who has done nothing for the state of NJ. Check his record. It's abysmal. He was smart enough to be around for Sandy, but during other crises he's been absent. The state is the highest taxed state in the country, higher than "Taxachusetts" and California. Homeowners must pay an exit fee if they sell their home and leave the state.

    The state's unemployment rate is above the national average. Christie has attacked unions, particularly public workers unions like nurses and teachers. He has cost the state jobs by refusing federal projects. He bullies state Republicans to tow his line or face the consequences. Christie is a bully and a thug. He will never be POTUS. His personality and his record will not play well outside of NJ and some areas of NY.

    I have loathed this creep since he first appeared on the scene. I hope the press starts digging into his record and his past.

    Christie and I do have one thing in common though. He won't change his point of view on marriage equality and I'm not going to change my view on him being nothing but a fat, tough talking failure bully of a man. ESAD Christie.

    Posted by: Bob R | Oct 9, 2013 6:29:01 PM

  16. OK, Cristie, let's also put the federal disaster relief for Hurricane Sandy up for a national vote and see how that works out for NJ. You have your opinion and I have mine and your fellow Republicans will leave you underwater to rot. Some things, like civil rights and disaster relief simply require leadership, a quality Christie considers discretionary.

    Posted by: Joe in Ct | Oct 9, 2013 7:02:51 PM

  17. i thought this revolting lard ass had stomach surgery -
    but he still looks like a fat disgusting obese pig -
    god he is so clinically obese - how is he still alive? when does he just have a massive heart attack and die?
    gross - imagine this idiot actually thinks he can be elected president - as if

    Posted by: j | Oct 9, 2013 9:36:24 PM

  18. Well said, Ernie. Weho, you are as clueless as every gay apologist for Republicans. Senators Obama and Biden were vastly, vastly preferable to their opponents McCain and Palin on gay rights and gay relationship recognition in 2008, whereas Senator Buono is vastly, vastly preferable to Christie on gay rights and gay relationship recognition in 2013. So, a rational gay person with self respect would choose Obama/Biden in 2008 and Buono in 2013. See how that works? I can repeat it more slowly if necessary; I get that those who get their information from Faux News sometimes have a hard time comprehending reality outside the bubble.

    Bob, your comment that Christie might personally support equality for gay people is both speculative fantasy and irrelevant. The only evidence we have of his feelings on this topic are his actions and, while there may be a political motive at play, we should note that he referred to the Windsor decision as "personally insulting" and has repeatedly offered his personal belief that marriage should be the exclusive province of heterosexuals when he could just as easily confined himself to the more procedural argument that this is a decision which should be made by popular vote without offering, even when not asked, his personal view. More significantly, who cares? What really matters is that he is the one and only obstacle to the achievement of marriage equality in New Jersey and any gay or lesbian New Jerseyan with an ounce of self-respect and any other New Jerseyan genuinely committed to the cause of equality for their gay and lesbian brothers and sisters will make sure to get out to the polls in November to let Christie know what they think of his support for a caste system relegating LGBT New Jerseyans to the back of the bus. The others - those who vote for him for whatever reason and those who stay home on Election Day - are just as much of the problem when it comes to the struggle for equality as he is.

    Posted by: Patric | Oct 9, 2013 10:41:56 PM

  19. Lipstick on a pig.

    Posted by: Jack M | Oct 10, 2013 8:31:42 AM

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