1. Jack says


    That’s a pretty stupid statement. I know plenty of people who use drugs recreationally on occasion who are incredibly intelligent, eloquent, and well-spoken.

  2. Kick Me says

    Kluwe is both right and wrong on the comparison of himself with Tebow. The closer comparison though is ‘value’ not ‘beliefs’.

    Kluwe is actually a punter with proven ability and a track record. The issue with Kluwe is value– his productivity relative to his salary, relative to comparable productivity that can be gotten from lower-compensated, younger punters.

    Tebow is an athlete suffering from the delusion that he is an NFL-level quarterback. He does not have the passing skills to be a viable QB, not even in a backup role. He could probably contribute to a team as a special teams player, and might even be valuable as a tight end or h-back. But he insists on competing as a quarterback. Unless and until he’s willing to consider a career makeover, he is unlikely to play in the NFL.

    In Kluwe’s case, I agree that his outspokenness contributes to teams’ unwillingness to hire him. In Tebow’s case, his beliefs are neutral at worst, and in many markets and with many coaches are probably a net plus–just not enough to overcome his lack of ability.

    This is increasingly a problem with Kluwe–he has shifted the spotlight away from the issue of gay players in the NFL onto the personal plight he has suffered as a result of speaking out. It makes him look more like a self-promoter than an authentic advocate for gay athletes. The more he talks, the less seriously I take him.

  3. Perry says

    This guy is finally showing his stripes. He is just a bitter jock who can’t accept that he is past his prime (and can’t ask for the salary he is used to). Tebow is not being kept out of the NFL because of his religious belief. He is being kekpt out because he is not good enough to be a NFL caliber QB. Some teams have hinted at signing him to their team, but to use him in other positions. Tebow has stated he will only play in the NFL if he plays the QB positions.

    I hope the gays stop buying the BS Kluwe is trying to sell and realize he is out for publicity for himself. He doesn’t give 3 licks about gays.

  4. terry says

    I disagree with previous posters. I think Kluwe does bring up a valid point about being vocal about your values and beliefs. In Tebow’s case it’s not him it’s circus that follows him. Given a chance, I think he has some potential.

  5. says

    The idea that Kluwe is only self-centered and doesn’t care about gay people might make a smidgen more sense if he hadn’t been a vocal supporter of marriage equality when it was clearly of no advantage to him or his football career. Even if he wants to stay in the limelight now, it doesn’t alter the fact that he was an articulate and passionate spokesman/ally for the freedom to marry when it mattered.

  6. says

    Patriots owner Kraft actually gave Tebow another chance because of his spirituality.

    Pro scouts knew he wasn’t NFL capable when he was at Fla. Urban Meyer built the offense around Tebow’s limited passing excellent running ability and it worked. But that was college. At the pro level that doesn’t work. It wasn’t for lack of trying. Tebow was often cited as the hardest working player on the field wherever he was.

    He strikes me as a man living in turmoil between faith & homosexuality. His faith is one of the most important things in his life and he has been taught and accepts that his sexual attraction to men is a sin. Accepting that ideology he lives a life of constant denial. It’s something he’ll struggle with his entire life.

    Imagine the good he could have done if he had been raised in a Church that was accepting.

    When I first read this article I questioned why Kluwe would include Tebow but Kluwe isn’t one to make that kind of mistake. Maybe this is a reachout.

    I love Kluwe and what he stands for so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt here.

  7. Ernie Has A Micro-Penis says

    Well, Ernie….there were people who suggested that Kluwe injected himself into the debate precisely BECAUSE he saw the end of the line coming up for his career. It sounds cynical, but it has a certain logic to it.

    I admire the content of his arguments, mostly, although I think the comparison between himself and Tebow is way off. What Kluwe needs to do is re-package his message, and figure out a way to deliver it in a less off-putting way. Flies. Honey. Vinegar. Etc.

  8. says

    Classy name there, the other Ernie. Glad you distinguished yourself from me. It got a laugh out of my husband.

    Right, Kluwe injected himself into the debate to cash in on the hugely lucrative world of supporting the freedom to marry. Yep, that makes perfect sense.

    Usually people who say they are allies, really are. And without them there’s be no marriage equality.

    Sorry about your penis.

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