1. Patrick says

    That looks really good. I like guys who “look like tarzan and talk like jane” I think its sexy. Tim Gunn should be appalled by his voice LOL just kidding

  2. Mark Leo (@SFCpdx) says

    “Sound Gay” – Sure I know what it means, but when I start to consider it, I think, wow, what does “Gay” sound like? Are they meaning “not masculine”, “feminine” – it’s so loaded, the phrase itself. It’s like “looks Gay”, “Straight acting”, etc. Maybe the film will clear it up. hmmmmm.

  3. rick says

    Don’t ask others “Do I sound gay?,” ask yourself “Am I well-informed, self-confident, strong, an engaged listener?,” and nothing else matters.

  4. Mike in the Tundra says

    When I hear my own voice, I think I sound gay. However, I’m a Southerner living in Minnesota. No one can get past my Southern accent to hear the gay voice.

  5. mcgill says

    I hate to break it to you, but some straight guys sound “gay” too which means that how one sounds is utterly ridiculous with regard to understanding sexual orientation.

  6. UFFDA says

    Why on earth kid yourself about this? Lots of gay guys sound gay, a lot more than straight, or straight guys.
    I have a gay inflexion I don’t like at all but there’s nothing I can do about it. I’m definitely guessable to the savvy and I have to live with it. It’s far from the worse thing in the world but I’d get rid of it if I could.
    Mostly I like men who have no hint of gayness in them whatever. You know: masc. I’m not that, but not too far from it. Just myself really and it’s a great ongoing life lesson to accept and allow that.

  7. Jason says

    In elementary school I was a member of what David Sedaris calls the “Future Homosexuals of America” and spent many hours in speech therapy to “fix” my thrusting tongue on S sounds. It’s at least 95% gone now…although it returns, sometimes, when at least two of these conditions are present: I’m tired, I’m drunk, I’m stressed, I’m for some reason thinking I need to talk really fast, and, strangely, when I’m really hungry!?

  8. JMC says

    I’ve always been curious about what causes the varying degrees of the “gay voice” so many of us have, even in those of us isolated from other gay people.

  9. emjayay says

    We used to rely on Buckie for a certain type of comment, and now I see after reading two posts we now have Petey too.

    Nicely done promo. Interesting topic, and they got a lot of A list gays to talk. Hope it works out.

    Of course the gay accent is a lot more than the classic sibilant S that Jason is talking about. The whole thing is an interesting question…little proto gay boys can have it who aren’t hanging around with a lot of gay guys obviously. I’ve always wondered what the deal is myself.

    And of course straight guys can sound gay, but whatever it is it’s a mainly gay thing. Although Mike Meyers who observed speech to do comic characters once talked about the artist accent and I think the teen accent being close to the gay accent.

    I myself am somewhere in the Dan Savage area or less, not necessarily immediately identifiable as gay voice but probably registering easily on decent gaydar!

  10. UFFDA says

    There’s also the phony or affected intellectual voice – there are many “kinds” of voices – and mannerisms indicative of kinds of people. Calm, nice, easy going, nothing-to-prove, people who are not angry, such are the best company.

  11. Lewis Gannett says

    I’m looking forward to this movie. “Sounding gay” and its close cousin effeminacy have never as far as I know been given their due. Has anyone seriously studied these subjects? C. A. Tripp, author of The Homosexual Matrix and The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln, identified four distinct types of male homosexual effeminacy, and made the amusing and intriguing comment that men manifesting any given type almost always personally despise at least two of the other types. Now isn’t that interesting? And drop-dead plausible? But seriously, the whole “acting gay” issue IS fascinating: some gay people “act gay,” some “don’t,” and some (like me, I fondly think) “switch hit.” But there’s a catch. A lot of men apparently don’t know “how gay” they act & sound until they see themselves on tape (the movie trailer talks about this). Here’s a reason to take the issue seriously. Why is effeminacy associated with homosexuality? It’s not a trick question. And it’s more complicated than it might seem. Why do some boys (some gay, some not) have “girly” personalities? What makes that happen? I’m delighted to report something astonishing: NOBODY KNOWS. Really. Unless the psychological literature has delved into this in recent years in journals I don’t hear about it, NOBODY has explained why some gay males act femme or, for that matter, why some lesbians act butch. The topic is wide open. So, why is that? Clue, I think: it relates to the issue of whether or not people are “born gay,” and all the ambiguity and controversy therein. Nobody knows the answer to that, either. Queer Studies people: get busy.

  12. L G. says

    perhaps early affectation leads to the habit that is no longer recognized
    I know gay men who in gay company “nellies” but in non-gay supportive situations, i.e. work, sound “not gay”

  13. Ronny says

    Interesting promo (great cat). Raises lots of issues (and obviously some hackles) and I’m curious about the amount of socialization they track, versus biology. Looking forward to it, and I will contribute.

  14. james st. james says

    It’s an interesting complicated subject. A “gay voice” can be learned, just like an actor portraying a character or it can be natural and innate and subconscious. It could be “unlearned” or covered up but that would acting.

    Gestures, as quick as a second or two, can be just as revealing. And they can be natural or learned.

    It’s too bad other people want to shove everyone into a category that fits their own prejudices instead of just accepting the variety and the differences.

  15. V-8 says

    a friend of mine and myself always talked about the “gay accent”… another friend later introduced me to the “lesbian voice” (a sort of NPRish, newscaster voice with a hint of coach in it)….

    we later found out that there are tons of academic studies and research on the subject, and there are even terms and theories that are widely accepted. I hope this guy has come across that stuff…

    what I find most fascinating, and this is something that people who speak more than one language can relate, is that the “gay accent” seems to be consistent across language barriers…

  16. Markt says

    I had a boss who worked with the deaf. He said he could tell who was gay by the way they signed. So the gay accent can be full body I guess.
    How do straights get their accent? An accent that, in a majority of cases, indicates the person is straight. Do they get a sense of where they fit-in in society and acquire those traits as they grow-up? Maybe – and maybe gays are the same but different.

  17. Zell says

    My own pet theory is that we get our affectations from people we are imitating. A lot of gay guys are very attuned to women from an early age; as a result, they copy their mannerisms and patterns of speech, leading to a “gay voice” and effeminacy. Not all gay guys, obviously, which is why we get masculine, “straight-acting” gay guys as well. There’s nothing really wrong with it either way (I tend to go for the more masculine guys, but that’s just a preference), but I think there’s a correlation.

  18. Rick says

    It is pretty obvious where the “gay voice” and effeminacy in general come from.

    The basic sexual orientation of a human being is set at a very early age (before 3) and although children that young are not conscious of their sexuality the way an adult is, clearly they are “aware” of it…..and they are socialized into a culture that characterizes males who are attracted to other males as un-masculine….and females who are attracted to other females as un-feminine….and so many of them take that as a cue to model their behavior on the opposite sex rather than their own….

    So effeminacy and the “gay voice” are just a product of a homophobic culture–they are not natural and those men who behave effeminately are not behaving that way because “that’s just the way they are”…..even if they did not consciously adopt that behavior….and because it is unnatural behavior, it is unatttractive to all humans, including gay men, themselves.

    The solution is not to embrace such behavior, but to recognize the causes of it–causes that lie in a homophobic culture–and work to undo those causes.

    Only when that is accomplished will gay men be happy with themselves and each other–and accepted fully by other men……

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