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Fmr Military Leaders Powell and Alexander on 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell'

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Rachel Maddow interviewed former General Colin Powell and Andrea Mitchell interviewed Former Secretary of the Army Clifford Alexander about repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Alexander called DADT "like having a bowl of bigotry around a curtain of silk. It takes the basic integrity of a person and says you must forget it. It turns people into liars."

Mitchell discusses the Elaine Donnelly letter and Alexander calls it "nonsense."

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  1. I wish that Rachel Maddow had reminded Colin Powell that in 1948, when Truman integrated the military, he did not wait for the opinion of the military leaders. Neither did he require inquiries or commissions to resolve this issue. He acted in defense of the principle of equality. President Obama should do the same. At a time when so many people are seeking jobs and the military can provide some of them, I don't think that having openly gay soldiers will be any impediment to getting new recruits.

    Posted by: gr8guyca | Apr 3, 2009 7:31:45 AM


  2. I was thoroughly impressed at how good Colin is at not actually saying his stance one way or another.

    Pick a side already.

    Posted by: Sgt. Sausagepants | Apr 3, 2009 7:57:36 AM


  3. gawd, repeat after me: clinton tried to do with gays what truman did with blacks as it pertains to the military, but clinton's own democratic congress was opposed. truman had the huge club of shame to wield against the racists. clinton appealed to the better nature of humans, and was sorely let down.

    Posted by: nic | Apr 3, 2009 8:43:49 AM


  4. i think that the reason people are uncomfortable with us serving openly in the military is gay men!.They are immoral childish people who refuse to grow up! All they think about is anal sex all the time. Most of them are loud, mean, annoying, you name it.I am a lesbian and I blame the men in our community for the negative stereotypes LGBTs are subjected to daily.

    Posted by: doro | Apr 3, 2009 8:44:13 AM


  5. Obvious troll is obvious.

    Posted by: Chris | Apr 3, 2009 8:58:31 AM


  6. The Clintons are the gay icons responsible for DADT. But you should have seen how gay white folk were all smitten by Hillary during the primaries. Oh, she's our icon, she's better than Barack Obama, then 50% of gay folk voted for Barrack, because he was the lesser evil, Now, Barrack Hussein is not good enough for gay folk? and somehow us republicans are the haters?. Geeeez make up your minds already, not everybody can be bad.

    Posted by: anthony | Apr 3, 2009 8:59:22 AM


  7. @DORO

    Do you think that lesbians are superior to gay men?

    Posted by: sam | Apr 3, 2009 9:04:13 AM


  8. Doro: You are just plain ignorant. By your reasoning, the mililtary should also be 'uncomfortable' with young straight men since a lot of them are also 'immoral childish people' & 'all they think about is anal sex...' Get a grip & maybe use your head a little more before you write.

    Posted by: scar2 | Apr 3, 2009 9:05:00 AM


  9. I don't think lesbians are superior, I think we are more mature and better behaved, probably less annoying, thats all.

    Posted by: doro | Apr 3, 2009 9:12:54 AM


  10. Doro, you use a lot of generalizations. "Immoral people." "Anal sex all the time." I suppose it makes it easier for you to feel good inside about disliking us. Making life into black-and-white issues sure does make things simpler, doesn't it?

    Well, go ahead. We've got a lot of enemies already. Might as well add on one more.

    Posted by: Yeek | Apr 3, 2009 9:20:13 AM


  11. ANTHONY.
    You took the words right out of my mouth, I agree with you, but unfortunately you are a republican.

    Posted by: jose | Apr 3, 2009 9:24:10 AM


  12. Sgt. Sausagepants, General Powell is a sheep. He has never lead a charge in his life. He has always taken the safe path and it appears our new president may be cut from the same cloth.

    Posted by: Lileasy | Apr 3, 2009 9:33:45 AM


  13. Wow Doro, those are some preposterous statements you make... it is exactly those kind of sweeping generalizations that we are trying to fight.

    Posted by: james | Apr 3, 2009 9:33:57 AM


  14. Anthony -

    You use a lot of generalizations as well. It is perfectly legitimate to have voted for Obama and subsequently criticize some of his actions based on the way he behaves.

    It's called being thoughtful and observant. Deciding that someone is "good" or "bad" and then sticking to that opinion no matter what other evidence comes along is the mark of a fool.

    Posted by: Yeek | Apr 3, 2009 9:34:24 AM


  15. @LILEASY
    Hey lets blame Powell for DADT, NOT Clinton right? I wonder why.

    Posted by: jose | Apr 3, 2009 9:44:53 AM


  16. Lesbians are more mature and better behaved, Doro? Really?

    Come to Phoenix, honey, and we'll go hang out at Girl Club, the lesbian bar at the end of my block. And afterward, you can be the one to call the cops about fist fights in the street and women vomiting in our front yard.

    Posted by: crispy | Apr 3, 2009 9:56:50 AM


  17. YEEK
    No it's called being racist, thats what it is. Oh Barack is bad, powell is bad,Oprah is bad Tyra is bad,sense a pattern. heck anybody with a tan is freakn' bad. Oh we want freedom but we hate ethnic minorities? Then we wonder why they often return the favor.

    Posted by: anthony | Apr 3, 2009 9:57:15 AM


  18. I have had many irresponsible "straight" relatives go into the armed services -- wild, thoughtless, self-centered, overly sexed (yes, straight people can be overly sexed as well)--and after the indoctrination, training, forced regimentation, they come out serious, well-mannered and productive people. Some people might be better served if they listened once again to Clifford Alexander's statements about how straights and gays aren't all that different.

    Posted by: woodroad34 | Apr 3, 2009 9:59:25 AM


  19. Oh, and have I mentioned the recent spate of "straight" rapes in the news lately? Talk about having sex on the mind all the time.

    Posted by: woodroad34 | Apr 3, 2009 10:01:35 AM


  20. @DORO,

    lezbots are pussy obseesed cretins. that's why thw muff divers are raped repeatedly in the military. they deserve no respect. because of them, gay men can't serve openly in the military.

    really, DORO? let's take intolerance out of your head and place it where it belongs; on the shoulders of hetersexists who would just as soon spit into your dyke soup as my faggot stew. what the hell is wrong with you?

    Posted by: nic | Apr 3, 2009 10:03:29 AM


  21. jose,

    suck my mexican, yellow-dog democrat dick.

    Posted by: nic | Apr 3, 2009 10:06:49 AM


  22. I think most Americans have a problem with gay men , not lesbians, for obvious reasons. i love Rachel Maddow. She rocks!

    Posted by: omar | Apr 3, 2009 10:08:07 AM


  23. Doro, do us all a favour and enlist.

    Posted by: David D. | Apr 3, 2009 10:09:28 AM


  24. NIC
    sodomy is the problem, last I knew us lesbians don't sodomize each other. it's the gay male sex that disgusts people, think about it, I am gay and it gives me nausea.

    Posted by: doro | Apr 3, 2009 10:16:08 AM


  25. Gosh, Anthony, the only way your comment could have been more unhinged would be if you defended Steve Urkel.

    Posted by: Yeek | Apr 3, 2009 10:16:29 AM


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