Split Emerges in LGBT Community Over Language in 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Repeal Compromise
Last night, as the compromise deal on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" repeal appeared to offer an opportune legislative window to ditch the discriminatory ban on gays serving openly in the military, some members of the LGBT community were hailing it, while others were throwing up warning flags.
Read the full language of the repeal amendment above, which includes the following conditions:
"This includes 'a written certification, signed by the President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff' that all three considered the recommendations of the working group, the Defense Department prepared the necessary policy and regulatory changes and the changes are 'consistent with the standards of military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention of the Armed Forces.'' As such, and as separately noted in a subsection of the language, the change would have 'No Immediate Effect on Current Policy.' The proposed amendment specifically notes that it does not ''require the furnishing of benefits in violation of'' the Defense of Marriage Act."
"Some gay rights advocates complained that too many conditions were attached to the repeal. But the president of the Human Rights Campaign, Joe Solmonese, said the deal 'puts us one step closer to removing this stain from the laws of our nation.'"
Or does it?
Plenty of people are saying that the compromise is a risky one.
Americablog's analysis is that it leaves open the possibility that DADT could remain in place:
The House and Senate will pass legislation this year that provides that "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" will be considered repealed if and when the following happens:
1. The Secretary of Defense receives the "study."
2. The President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs certify that:
- They have considered the recommendations in the study
- DOD has prepared the necessary policies and regulations needed to implement a repeal
- The implementation of the repeal is consistent with the standards of military
readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and retention.Current policy will remain in place until the above conditions are satisfied. And if the above conditions are never satisfied, the current DADT policy will remain in place.
There is nothing in the legislation that says the repeal must happen.
Activists Dan Fotou, David Fleck, and Alan Bounville from Queer Rising have launched a campaign against the repeal compromise. They write, similarly, that it gives politicians cover while leaving those most at risk — service members — open to continued discrimination without a timeline for ending it:
WHAT WE KNOW: The repeal language will do several things that are EXTREMELY UNFAVORABLE for our LGBT servicemembers. It will:
1. Eliminate any kind of timeline to implement the repeal
2. Put the decision-making power solely in the hands of the President, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Secretary of Defense
3. The decision as to "when" will presumably become a matter of "if"
4. Repeal will be based on certification that the new law will not have a negative impact on readiness, recruitment, retention and other key factors that affect the military. (What one considers "negative impact" is subjective and leaves plenty of room for indefinite delay on repeal)
5. Putting the decision making power solely in these hands will eliminate any oversight and accountability, as the Pentagon is not an institution that can be lobbied or voted out of office - WE LOSE ALL POWER TO PERSUADE
6. The President can now pass the buck and blame the Pentagon
7. This repeal provides cover for November elections as the buck has now been passed, and those running for office can say "I voted to repeal DADT" and that's all it will take to get the "gay vote".
8. Worse of all, and the greatest concern is the REMOVAL of any non-discrimination language from the repeal language - essentially, returning authority for open service by gays and lesbians back to the Pentagon (this is code for allowing discrimination based on sexual orientation to factor into discharge but to effectively deny that it played any part of the discharge. Ironically, DADT at least provides a reason for discharge, whereas this absence of a discrimination policy will afford the military the right to discharge because of sexual orientation, but cloaked in a lack of "readiness".)
We must do all we can to insist that the repeal be a full repeal - not another bogus attempt at pacifying our community.
Still, advocates in the military community appear to be fully on board with the language.
Via MetroWeekly:
"Although the language was not a passionate case for repeal, Aubrey Sarvis, the executive director of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network said on Monday evening of the administration's letter, ''The bottom line is in the last sentence.''
Orszag concluded his letter, ''The Administration therefore supports the proposed amendment.'' ...
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Aaron Belkin, the director of the Palm Center, said via e-mail on Monday night, ''This policy has been incredibly difficult to dismantle, and only Presidential leadership could rip it down. That's what we got today.''
The Palm Center has been a leading source of academic research on the policy over the past decade, and Belkin, who has been skeptical of the chances of repeal this year, said, ''The White House showed real leadership today in dismantling 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell.'''
As Solmonese said, ''Today's announcement paves the path to fulfill the President's call to end 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' this year and puts us one step closer to removing this stain from the laws of our nation."
Sarvis concurred, saying, ''The amendment that's going to be fully aired tomorrow is going to put us on the path to repeal.
''When 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' is fully repealed, it is my hope that the White House would issue an exec order . . . with respect to sexual orientation,'' he said. ''The reality is that the nondiscrimination policies that are in place in agencies have all been done by exec order since 1948.''
In a statement released Monday evening, Servicemembers United executive director Alex Nicholson said, ''We have been making the case to White House staff for more than a year now that delayed implementation is realistic, politically viable, and the only way to get the defense community on board with repeal.''
Nicholson concluded, ''[W]e are glad to see the community and now the administration and defense leadership finally rally around this option.''
About the White House support, Sarvis said, ''I think it makes a difference to a number of House members.'' About the Senate, however, he was more circumspect, saying, ''I'm not at liberty to say what Senator that makes a difference to.''
Said Richard Socarides, attorney and former advisor to President Clinton, in a statement to Americablog:
"I know we are all thrilled tonight that there may be a break in the logjam over DADT legislation. And it is always important to keep focused on the art of the possible. This has been a long fight and it is not over.
"I am concerned, however, that the bill released tonight is being mis-characterized. I was expecting to see a bill providing for repeal of DADT now with delayed implementation. As far as I can tell, the proposed legislation instead makes repeal conditional on a future discretionary certification which may or may not occur.
"It may be the best we can get, and if so, I say let's grab it. But it is not repeal with delayed implementation. It's conditional future repeal."
Should the LGBT community just swallow what we can get at this point? And if not, how to ensure the concerns made by skeptics in the LGBT community are met? These are valid questions.




This is no repeal at all. They can and will drag this out for years. Why can we not have a Congress that just takes action.
Posted by: Speedieg | May 25, 2010 7:22:48 AM
This has all the hallmarks of the famous legislative "triggers" -- one of these was discussed in the healthcare debate on the public option. Conventional wisdom is that the conditions of the "trigger" are never met -- it's a political ploy.
Posted by: Anonymous | May 25, 2010 7:34:33 AM
Yes, these are valid questions. And the answer to them is, unfortunately, so what?
The simple truth is we would not have been able to move forward with a repeal that was exactly what the LGBT community wanted. So, we should take our toys and go home? With the almost certain outcome being that we get NOTHING and would have gotten NOTHING for years to come?
Be serious. This is Washington, not la-la-land.
Posted by: dcposter | May 25, 2010 7:37:42 AM
Andy, excellent post.
I have been waiting to see what your take on this was since I first heard about this last night.
As soon as the word "compromise" was being used, I knew something was up.
This is absolutely, unequivocally, and without a doubt a result of a completely inept job at HRC. An, as per usual, we are supposed to be overjoyed that a scrap was thrown our way, rather than sitting at the dinner table.
I'm with you... where are the protections for LGBT members that are currently in the forces?? How many MORE service members are going to be kicked out while the pentagon and this administration "study" the viable options and what effect this will have on unit cohesion and morale??
I find it sad and shameful that our military brass would want to devote so much energy to finding out what will happen if homosexuals are allowed to openly serve, but they couldn't send our men and women in arms to Iraq quick enough.
One wonders how the outcome of that current campaign would have been different had the military been half as thorough as they say they need to be before asking so much of their soldiers now.
Posted by: ModeratelyMinded | May 25, 2010 7:42:09 AM
This is a stinker. They promised repeal. Now they are going to promise further study leading to repeal? B.S.! I am sure they will try to collect donations for all those brave politicians who stuck their scrawny necks out in the brave pursuit of civil rights...who voted to have a commission on it. Cowards!
Posted by: candideinnc | May 25, 2010 7:44:49 AM
Voted for CHANGE not COMPROMISE.
Posted by: Name: | May 25, 2010 7:52:58 AM
Would MLK have accepted an amendment to "eventually review" Jim Crow for repeal?
It's a civil rights fight, and it should be treated as such. Full equality is our demand, and we should not rest until it is achieved.
Posted by: Andy F | May 25, 2010 7:53:37 AM
This isn't even a tiny step forward, it is the promise of a tiny step forward.
The civil rights activists of the 1960's didn't fight for possible freedom, they fought for their rights, all of them. And thats something we should be doing. If they would have settled for things like this Rosa parks would only be in the middle of the bus today (If she was still alive that is. God rest her soul)
The compromises and the creaming in the jeans of our "supposed" gay rights leaders at crumbs and promises is whats killing the Gay Rights Movement.
Posted by: Wolf | May 25, 2010 7:55:28 AM
It isn't entirely true that this puts gay policy entirely in the hands of those who are not lobbyable. This means the President as Commander in Chief can order military brass to let gays serve openly. The problem here is that the next president could just as easily rescind the order. How many effing presidents are we going to have to lobby now? This is not a good compromise. I expect this kind of bullshit from HRC, but I'm rather surprised that the servicemembers group was in on it as well.
Posted by: ChristopherM | May 25, 2010 8:02:21 AM
..well I know it WON'T Happen - but it's a shame - ALL Gays/Lesbians can't just GET OUT of the Service NOW in One Big Swoop...Tell the military & Obama to go eff' themselves...tellm' to get the Trash they have been given waivers too to fight for this crappy nation,that treats LGBT citizens as 2nd class.......I continue to be Digusted by this Nation more and more!
Posted by: Disgusted American | May 25, 2010 8:05:41 AM
So we can listen to the riled-up gay activists who have never set foot on a military base and whose militance is limited to blog comments and, MAYBE, an occasional canvass or two -- or we can listen to the Palm Center and SLDN, who do this for a living and are content with the amendment because they know 1) it's all we can get right now and 2) it's critically important that we get something right now. I know who I trust here and it's not John Aravosis.
Posted by: jersey | May 25, 2010 8:15:14 AM
I voted for CHANGE, not COMPROMISE we can believe in.
Posted by: RONTEX | May 25, 2010 8:15:57 AM
Vote for Real Change: Dismantle the HRC!
Posted by: David Ehrenstein | May 25, 2010 8:27:37 AM
Only in Washington could something so simple be turned into something so outlandishly complicated and self-serving.
I guess if the government has no qualms about tossing the populace under the bus on health, economic and immigration reform, then why not run the LGBT community under the wheels as well...
This would be comical if it weren’t so tragic.
Posted by: ichabod | May 25, 2010 8:36:18 AM
This reads like a heap of smelly bullshit to me. Just more "compromise" BS from BS Barry and the DLC boys to provide cover for November in an effort to lure gay voters to the polls. What's so simple about a plain repeal of a very bad law? It's an easy piece of legislation: Gays can serve openly. They're behavior is subject to the same rules and regulations regarding sexual conduct as is every member of the US armed forces. Period. End of DADT, end of the BS.
Posted by: Bob R | May 25, 2010 8:40:19 AM
Split in the community? You mean some loose threads on the edge have come undone? Andy, some fringe "in your face" groups who know nothing about politics do not constitute a split. SLDN and SU would not be behind this if they didn't see a clear end.
Posted by: Rick | May 25, 2010 8:44:16 AM
Yeah, I'm gonna have to go with my gut on this one... No Good!
This just reaks of pulling our legs. DADT is never going to be repealed in this fashion, as it leaves far too much room for someone to claim that something wasn't right; The Hets are too uncomfortable.
In my opinion, this legislation is as good as no legislation.
Posted by: Joey | May 25, 2010 8:49:39 AM
I'm hardly 'fringe' and that compromise looks like a lot of fine, fine print.
Equality is kind of like math; 2+2=4 and you're either equal or not...
I especially like to explicit denial of benefits to the spouses of gay soldiers.... nice.
Posted by: stephen | May 25, 2010 8:54:02 AM
If you keep accepting crumbs from the table, you'll never get a full meal.
How do you compromise on equal rights? You don't. You either have full equality, or you don't.
We still don't.
This is just more bullshit.
Posted by: Gridlock | May 25, 2010 8:57:55 AM
If their intent is to really end DADT, then it isn't unreasonable to expect an end to dismissals while they 'study' the issue. Anything short of that is a failure (meaning the HRC's input... which was apparently worthless)
Posted by: David in Houston | May 25, 2010 9:00:44 AM
"Delayed implementation". This is getting ridiculous. We're not lab rats who need to be studied to death. That's all this "amendment" promises...gets Congress through midterms, codifies the study, and the lets everyone sit on their hands for a while until they decide whether the straight folks are ok with serving with teh gheys.
I wonder how much SLDN and Palm Center really support this. I wonder if they're simply trying to stay positive in the face of this amendment which does practically nothing. I wonder if they see this as another opportunity to lobby a Congress which has been very unfriendly towards the big-ticket issues facing the GLB community.
Posted by: DR | May 25, 2010 9:20:06 AM
This is Worse Than Nothing:
Please read this whole statement before thinking I am defending DADT.
Does anyone recall what DADT was put in place to stop? We have been given almost 20 years to forget the reason it seemed palatable in 1993. Pre DADT, Gays and Lesbians were hunted in Crucible like investigations by Military investigation agencies like the CID, NCIS, etc. Subjects would be held for hours, threatened with decades long sentences, forced to give up other men and women as homosexuals, terrorized into signing confessions, and then given a dishonorable discharge. This medieval session could be initiated by nothing more than having a bodybuilding magazine. Suspicion is all it took, not even reasonable suspicion.
This is what we will gain from the language in this compromise. This is a Faustian compromise at best giving political cover to the Democrats while making it seem like we are moving forward. Without the anti-discrimination language this "compromise" is nothing more than a sign reading "FAG HUNTING SEASON OPEN".
I would ask that SLDN, Aubrey Sarvis, and the like look into their archives and post some of those stories. Let the world know just what is going to happen AFTER this law passes and AFTER all of the certifications are signed. Repealing DADT is not enough. We MUST include anti-discrimantion language in any repeal. If we don't, the light at the end of the tunnel is the doorway to the gallows.
Posted by: Robert Rhea | May 25, 2010 9:21:16 AM
It probably feels great to be an idealist, but at some point basic reality sets in. Very simply, there weren’t enough votes to pass law requiring the immediate end to DADT.
The President, the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs have already indicated that they support repeal, but they cannot make this change without Congressional support. We need to keep in mind that it’s an election year, and many Republicans have already indicated that they don’t want DADT repealed with or without the support of Pentagon leadership. And even conservative Democrats wouldn’t support a measure supporting change until the Pentagon signed on. If this compromise gets enough votes, I don’t see how it changes things much. (Repeal should happen once study is complete.)
Regarding spousal benefits, as long as DOMA exists, it’s doubtful that the military could have granted formal recognition to the partners and spouses of military men and women anyway. Why are we upset that this compromise simply spells out the reality of the current law?
Slowly but surely, the Obama administration and the current Congress have been passing the agenda of our community (despite the economy being in the toilet, our being at war and the U.S. having a very, very divided country). LGBT activists sound like petulant babies when they demand everything now OR nothing! We need to thank our supporters and appreciate incremental change, because if we don’t, we’ll end up with the GOP in charge again. What chance will we have of passing ENDA and repealing parts of DOMA if the Republicans are running the show?
Posted by: Guy from DC | May 25, 2010 9:21:54 AM
People who claim "this is all we are going to get" are cowards and unworthy of calling themselves either leaders or even politically adept. This is the biggest con yet to be thrust upon our community by the liars who claim to be allies, and the worst part is that they are doing it with the blessing of our supposed lobby groups. This is a dark and shameful moment in the lgbt civil rights movement. Barack Obama and his cronies have done more harm to us then any republican could have ever done. At least when the repubs were fucking us over our community was unified. Obama has succeeded in doing what the right wing never could, divide and conquer our oppressed community into complete paralysis.
Posted by: gaylib | May 25, 2010 9:23:18 AM
Think twice about anything the HRC supports with the words "compromise" attached. Not in our best interest. Once again the HRC does not support the immediate full rights of gay people. They try to appease and nickle and dime us to recieving full rights.
Posted by: David | May 25, 2010 9:31:45 AM