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Senate Debate on 'DADT' Repeal Could Start as Early as June 18

According to SLDN. They offer some guidance: Dadt  

After the U.S. House of Representatives passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the U.S. Senate is now poised to take it up. An amendment that would allow for the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” was successfully attached to the NDAA in both the House and Senate.

Senate floor debate on the NDAA may begin as early as June 18, but it could come later.

SLDN and other repeal advocates will be working to shore up a filibuster proof majority, 60 Senate votes, to proceed to consideration of the NDAA. While this is traditionally a “must-pass” piece of legislation, the White House has threatened to veto the bill due to spending disagreements unrelated to the repeal of DADT.

Even with a filibuster proof 60-vote majority, SLDN and our repeal allies will be closely watching for any crippling amendments offered on the floor and a “motion to strike” that could allow repeal opponents to remove the repeal language from the defense bill.

SLDN is working closely with Senators Joseph Lieberman and Carl Levin to guard against any attempts to strike repeal or weaken its provisions.

For instance, we will vigorously oppose any amendment to expand the certification process in the “compromise." Opponents of open service may be considering an amendment that would require all of the Joints Chiefs to sign off on the certificaiton process. This killer amendment is designed to delay open service for years.

According to SLDN, once the Senate passes the amendment, it will head to conference committee to resolve differences in the House and Senate versions. That report will be voted on by both chambers in September or October. The bill signing by the President would then follow, yet DADT still would not be repealed. 

Then comes the Working Group study from the military in December: "At some point after the Pentagon Working Group submits its report, the President would transmit to the congressional Armed Services Committees a written certification, signed by the President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff."

Repeal would technically become effective 60 days after that but policies and rules would still have to be put in place by the military.

As you can see, we've got a long way to go.

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  1. i really want to know what the LGBT community feels about this issue.

    i am not gay but sympathize with any group whose civil liberties are being denied.

    i really feel that dadt is a let's pretend gay people don't exist & sweep them under the rug.

    but since i am not gay i want the feelings & opinions of those who are relevant to this issue. i love my gay family/friends and think that pretending it doesn't exist hurts them because it is like saying they don't matter. it is very damaging and causes self esteem issues, self loathing and puts conditions on what love & acceptance is.

    Posted by: Jdockins | Jun 3, 2010 6:13:52 PM

  2. this issue should matter more to the community than celeb gossip/pop culture BTW...

    Posted by: Jdockins | Jun 3, 2010 6:15:53 PM

  3. Today at work, a friend that's a conservative pulled me aside and asked about DADT. He babbled something about "why now?" and covering up some Arabic sounding name and Obama.

    I took a deep breath, climbed up on the running board of his truck, and asked him what position he took. He was against repeal.

    I glared, looked him right in the eye, and told him about my gay son's record in the military. "Oh man! You don't need to get angry!"

    This individual was court martialed when he was in the Marines for drug use. He still got an honorable discharge after serving time in the brig. I told him he got a far better opportunity than gay people in the military.

    I am quite certain he got a better idea of what dignity, humanity, and equality mean in the face of overt hate and discrimination in our "chat" than he got in listening to several hours of Rush Limbaugh today.

    Posted by: craig | Jun 3, 2010 9:37:14 PM

  4. JDockins, let me tell you about my son (probably boring people who have heard this here before, with apologies.)

    By son is gay, just finished 2 1/2 years in a FOB in Afghanistan. He was nearly killed by a sniper. He was forced to kill a 12 year old boy that brought a live grenade up to his unit. My son has severe PTSD and rarely sleeps through the night without horrific nightmares. He stares into space at times replaying images from the war in his mind. He cannot stand for long because his knees are nearly destroyed from marching. His back is in so much pain that he has trouble standing or sitting for any real length of time. Sometimes it is so bad that he has to have an ambulance take him to the VA emergency room. There have been times when he can still feel the pain even after seven injections of morphine.

    His Humvee was hit by an IED, and he is partially deaf. He has brain injuries.

    What I demand for my son is the human dignity accorded to any other person that served with him.

    My son was one of five gay men in his unit. No one cared. Not one of the men in his unit. My son fought bravely and paid heavily in the service of his country. How dare it be discounted because he wasn't born straight.

    Posted by: craig | Jun 3, 2010 9:54:16 PM

  5. Thank you Craig for posting.

    We will never be able to repay the debt your son has given to our country.

    I think DADT is a critical issue for all gay people, but really it should be an issue for all Americans. All gay people know what it is like to compartmentalize their life, to lie about a fundamental part of your identity to the people your closest.

    People fighting in the military shouldn't have to worry about hiding who they are from others in their unit. They should be able to write love letters to people back home, their partners should have access to the same resources and should be the first informed in the event of an injury or a death. I mean these men and women are fighting for our country and yet we ask them to serve in silence.

    Our country invests countless resources, time and money training them, and then discharges them in shame. We need their skills, their bravery and their honesty in our military.

    Posted by: Jim | Jun 3, 2010 11:12:36 PM

  6. DADT will not be repealed before the midterms. All this "compromise" crap is just a charade.

    DADT Repeal will depend entirely on the makeup of the next Congress.

    Posted by: AndrewW | Jun 4, 2010 11:32:54 PM

  7. Gay Americans, particularly the dishonored patriots who lost their jobs for being good gay soldiers, seriously should consider living in another country. News to those who don't know: there are several countries out there who WANT gay people to contribute to society and enjoy all rights!!!! One of them is your neighbor Canada, and then there's a bunch of places in Europe. Consider it: they need your help making a better country, and they actually want you to enjoy the benefits.

    Posted by: JJ | Jun 5, 2010 7:16:10 PM

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