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Greg Gutfeld Plans to Open a Gay Bar Next to Ground Zero Mosque

Because fundamentalist Muslims do not tolerate gays (and, you know, want to kill them), Red Eye's Greg Gutfeld says he is planning to open a gay bar next to the controversial Ground Zero mosque. Gutfeld says that he wants to "break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia" when in reality he just wants to assault the Muslims with something as abhorrent to them as the Ground Zero mosque is to right-wing conservatives.

Gutfeld  Gutfeld's post:

So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it's all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque - after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law - who can stop them?

Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I've decided to do the same thing.

I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps - but still want to dance.

Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.

My place, however, will have better music.

Who knows if Gutfeld is serious, but floating the idea is heinous enough.

Gutfeld's show, of course, is well-known for its trans bashing ("These people disgust me") and jokes mocking gays. No doubt Barney Frank, who Gutfeld once called a "wrinkly creature with a knack for anal probing" is Gutfeld's presumed customer for this new bar.

In related news, the New York Transit Agency just approved an ad to go on the sides of buses which depicts the mosque, and a plane flying into the World Trade Center, MSNBC reports:

"The ad was paid for by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, an organization that opposes radical Islamic influence in the United States. The group's executive director says she doesn't find the ad offensive. The group sued the Metropolitan Transportation Authority to demand it accept the ad, which was approved Monday. MTA spokesman Kevin Ortiz says the agency doesn't endorse the ad's views."

The controversial ad:

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  1. Heinous? How is this idea heinous? Whether or not Gutfeld is sincere is irrelevant; Islam is violently opposed to homosexuality, and world polls show that most Muslims actually support the death penalty for homosexuals, including majorities of second and third generation Muslim immigrants in the UK. Our Christians here in the states are pretty awful, but they are no where near as awful as most Muslims and the Islamic establishment is when it comes to homosexuality. The Left is so hesitant to criticize Islam or the Middle East; it makes me sick. Those on the Left are the people that should be standing up for human rights and for decency and for respect, instead the American and European Left is making excuses for the extremism. Opening a gay bar next to a Mosque is a fantastic idea. Islam's homophobia is not any more excusable than Christianity's homophobia (in fact, as I already outlined, it is much worse) and should be fought and challenged.

    Posted by: DavyG | Aug 10, 2010 8:38:12 AM


  2. Andy, the only thing heinous about this is you editorialising in a way that gives approval to Islamic homophobia.

    Posted by: Marc | Aug 10, 2010 8:44:18 AM


  3. Gutfeld is hardly proposing this to make the world a better place for gays. He's using gays as a pawn to piss off Muslims. That's why it's heinous. If his motivation was in the right place, perhaps it would be an interesting idea. But given his past remarks about gays and his longstanding attacks on Kevin Jennings, his motivations can't be praised.

    Posted by: Danny | Aug 10, 2010 8:48:23 AM


  4. I really hope his idea will come into fruition. What a great idea!!!

    Posted by: crazywoman | Aug 10, 2010 8:48:51 AM


  5. FUCK GREG GUTFIELD..With a name like that I'd commit suicide. Besides who really listens to her and that God awful honorable mention show on Fox that she has.

    YUK!!

    Posted by: MISS JUJU BEEBEE | Aug 10, 2010 8:50:09 AM


  6. Gutfeld just wants to incite hate based on perceived differences between Muslims and gays.

    Posted by: Dude | Aug 10, 2010 8:54:08 AM


  7. I think the mosque idea is one of the worst ideas. Basically the radicals that caused the twin towers to fall and killed THOUSANDS as a protest on american capitalism and values now will have a mosque at the same site? If anything the site should enforce american values of capitalism without religious institutions otherwise the religious radicals won.

    This idea is more in line with creating tolerance than the idea of a mosque.

    Posted by: peace | Aug 10, 2010 8:59:36 AM


  8. Gutfeld can call it "Mo's Place" (short for Mohammed's, and because it's full of... well, you know).

    Posted by: A. Beaverhausen | Aug 10, 2010 9:06:49 AM


  9. Sounds like a case of offsetting douchebags.

    Posted by: MikeMick | Aug 10, 2010 9:08:11 AM


  10. Oh, Towle, Towle -- you are a hack. How is this objectively a bad idea? On what standards and grounds? And why do Gutfeld's motives matter? What about the motives of the parties pressing for the ground-zero mosque? Interesting that you'll explore and impute the first, but not the second.

    I know we can't expect objective reporting, but not even objective thinking or analysis?

    So, so hacky.

    Posted by: How is this a bad idea? | Aug 10, 2010 9:13:43 AM


  11. "I think the mosque idea is one of the worst ideas."

    Worst than worst. Ground Zero is a graveyard, is that the way to respect people who were killed and their families?

    Posted by: Matt | Aug 10, 2010 9:16:39 AM


  12. Well, we got the sermon Greg Gutfeld "is well known for...." but I missed the additional Muslims are "well known for...." The two teen homosexuals hanged in public in Iran and swinging for all to see in their button down shirts could have been a visual aid.

    Posted by: Mark | Aug 10, 2010 9:21:15 AM


  13. There's a representative of the Canadian Muslim Congress coming to NYC to speak with the Imam in charge of the project about that groups "refudiation" of building a mosque near ground zero.

    She makes some excellent points, but she's keeping the very worst company on that side of the debate. Google "Canadian Muslim Congress Ground Zero" if you want to see who is getting wood.

    If the project is to be attacked, it can't be on the basis of someone telling someone else where they can worship. Imagine making the argument that because the attacks were motivated by religion there should be NO religious institutions within 5, 10, or 20 blocks of ground zero.

    The project is VERY vulnerable to attack based on the alleged goal of "building bridges" and "promoting tolerance" - there seem to be lots of better ways of doing that.

    Posted by: MammaBear | Aug 10, 2010 9:33:55 AM


  14. Good job, guys, refudiating Andy's post. Some of you have about as much sense as Sarah Palin.

    Yes, the people behind this mosque are exactly the same as the fag-killing, western hating extremists who caused 9/11. Likewise, all Christians everywhere are exactly the same as the extremists of Westboro Baptist Church.

    Posted by: zxcv | Aug 10, 2010 9:34:33 AM



  15. This is America and people are free to practice their religion. But this is a bad idea. Why not expend this effort to do something about how women, homosexuals and religious minorities are treated in the Muslim countries. I have a hard time taking cries for tolerance seriously when they come from people who wouldn't tolerate me.

    That said, I do not appreciate being used in this way. But then when I was working downtown a gay bar would have been a nice thing after a day of working for evil incarnate.

    Posted by: Houndentenor | Aug 10, 2010 9:35:47 AM


  16. Are you people crazy? The proposed mosque is NOT ON THE WTC site.

    Posted by: Chester | Aug 10, 2010 9:39:23 AM


  17. I don't think any representation of religious faith should be present at the site. plain and simple. people of all faiths perished that day,even "peaceful muslims" at work in those buildings. They are forgotten and disrespected because they don't share the super awesome brand of faith that seem to be "in" this season. If the site is so hallowed and sacred,don't build a bank and a mall on it,does anyone see the irony there?

    Posted by: kevwyn | Aug 10, 2010 9:48:53 AM


  18. I happen to have a thing for arab dudes, and if I can find a good gay bar in NYC with a lot of them, I will be happy. This is the opposite of heinous. Also, I really don't think the character of the bar owner should be called into question... have you met most of those guys? yipes.

    Posted by: NoSleep4Sam | Aug 10, 2010 9:55:39 AM


  19. Assholes, You guys are assholes.

    The Muslim religion has more depth than terrorism. Particularly American Muslims, there is a whole new type of Muslim coming out of America and it shouldn't be persecuted for what some people do.

    How shameful of you guys to invoke the dead to pass hatred and small-minded logic on the living. How pathetic, this same fucking thing has happened countless times through history and its always the same.

    Posted by: Fenrox | Aug 10, 2010 10:02:46 AM


  20. As an aside, the people trying to build that Mosque are wonderfully tolerant people who would no doubt welcome a gay bar next to them.

    Lets not forget that a gay bar is just as offensive to christians, and I mean that, its the same level of offense, here in america this is how they deal with it. They take away our rights, they call us monsters and they beat and murder us. The same shit is happening over there.

    So yay for gay bar, yay for mosque. But most of all, Yay for a clearly terrible business plan by greg gutfeld that will financially hit him and the assholes he gets as partners.

    (Seriously, gay bars need gays to run moron)

    Posted by: Fenrox | Aug 10, 2010 10:07:23 AM


  21. If some muslims are offended by gay people, then those muslims (like all bigots) deserve to be antagonized and ostracized. I don't like this guy's motives, but it's hard for me to feel bad for homophobic bigots either, even when they're muslim.

    Posted by: Pender | Aug 10, 2010 10:08:19 AM


  22. Thank you, ZXCV, for injecting some sanity into this discussion. You nailed it. The willingness of too many people in this country, including too many gay people, to see all Muslims as indistinguishable and all Muslims as the people who "attacked us" on September 11 is frustrating, to say the least, and will prevent us from ever making progress on the issues which divide us.

    "And why do Gutfeld's motives matter? What about the motives of the parties pressing for the ground-zero mosque?" The motives of the parties seeking to build the mosque are pretty clear. They want to build a community center in the neighborhood where they have operated one for years; there is no evidence that they have intended to provoke or insult anyone. It is right-wingers and others who have blown this issue up and used it as another opportunity to pit culture against culture. Gutfield, on the other hand, is obviously trying to provoke, as well as to draw favorable attention to his hardly-noticed show. So yes, I agree with you that the motives of both sides matter and those motives clearly distinguish the two cases.

    "Basically the radicals that caused the twin towers to fall and killed THOUSANDS as a protest on american capitalism and values now will have a mosque at the same site?" Yeah, it's Al Quaeda which is proposing to build the mosque.

    "and world polls show that most Muslims actually support the death penalty for homosexuals, including majorities of second and third generation Muslim immigrants in the UK." You remind me of Tony Perkins. You seem to think that, if you say something enough times, everyone will accept it as true even if you can't offer any evidence. Please cite the polls to which you are referring. I am aware of a poll showing that British Muslims are overwhelmingly of the view that homosexuality is immoral but the same poll does not offer support for the contention that majorities of Muslims in the UK support the death penalty for homosexuality. Also, the same poll shows that 35% of Muslims in France do not view homosexuality as immoral (that is a figure not so different from the percentage of all those in this country who regularly attend religious services, Christian or otherwise).

    Posted by: Patric | Aug 10, 2010 10:11:38 AM


  23. Sounds like Gutfeld is a bigot, is using gay folks as pawns, and has mocked our sacred cow Barney Frank. But regardless, the way many Muslims treat gay folks is way more "heinous" than this Gutfeld guy.

    Posted by: JoeBlow | Aug 10, 2010 10:13:16 AM


  24. I have no problem with the mosque being built. As chester pointed out, its not on the WTC site, its simply somewhat nearby. Boo fucking hoo. And btw, I despise all religion.

    That said, as much as I dislike Gutfield, and realize how douchey his motives are, I have to admit his idea intrigues me. It is sort of brilliant in a way. And I would love to see any uptight Muslims dare protest another perfectly legal private establishment exercising its rights in New York.

    In short, I kind of support both efforts, because they are both perfectly valid endeavors, constitutionally speaking. God bless America! ;)

    Posted by: Wes | Aug 10, 2010 10:16:11 AM


  25. Oh, and since I called you out for not citing the polls you reference, here's my citation: The Gallup Coexist Index 2009: A Global Study of Interfaith Relations

    Posted by: Patric | Aug 10, 2010 10:19:21 AM


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