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Prolific tweeter Stephen Fry has apparently left the service following outrage over the weekend over an Attitude magazine article in which he suggested that women only have sex with men because it's the price they're willing to pay for a relationship.

Attitude quoted Fry as saying:" I feel sorry for straight men. The only reason women will have sex with them is that sex is the price they are willing to pay for a relationship with a man, which is what they want. Of course, a lot of women will deny this and say, 'Oh no, but I love sex, I love it!' But do they go around having it the way that gay men do?"

Before bidding good-bye yesterday, Fry tweeted: "So some f*cking paper misquotes a humorous interview I gave, which itself misquoted me and now I'm the Antichrist. I give up."

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  1. Sounds like too many martinis at breakfast for too long.

    Posted by: Danny | Nov 1, 2010 9:21:58 AM


  2. And we are meant to care because...?

    Posted by: Martin Murray | Nov 1, 2010 9:27:18 AM


  3. All printed medias are notorious for editing interviews to make them more sensational. It's just the way it has always been. It sucks that the editors don't generally care the cost their interviewees must pay,however.

    At any rate, as the saying goes, Twitter is the Devil.

    Posted by: LiamB | Nov 1, 2010 9:27:46 AM


  4. I absolutely agree with Stephen Fry's observations on women. Like Stephen, I am not one to fall for this pro-female political correctness stuff that seems to have taken hold in the last couple of decades.

    Women's sexuality is nowhere near as pervasive as men's. Moreover, women are sellers, not buyers. A seller advertises and deceives in order to get somebody to purchase what they're selling. Women can thus agree to sex without actually desiring it. Thus, women can use their sexuality as a marketing ploy to obtain benefits that are unrelated to sexual satisfaction.

    Women have a hole, not an erection. A man must go from soft to hard in an involuntary act driven by the power of the sex drive. Women don't undergo a similar process, and can thus disguise. Think fake orgasms, and you get the point of womanhood.


    Posted by: jason | Nov 1, 2010 9:38:51 AM


  5. Fry is only right.

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Nov 1, 2010 9:39:29 AM


  6. @Jason, your knowledge of female anatomy and physiology is seriously lacking.

    Also, your misogyny is showing.

    Posted by: naughtylola | Nov 1, 2010 9:46:39 AM


  7. I don't know if women desire sex less than men or not but the point is they have convinced straight men that they desire it let and that they will only give it up if men jump through hoops, spend money on them and bow and scrape to them. Talk to any straight man and he will tell you that he needs to have a lot of money, spend a lot of money and do all the "chivalry" bullshit (which is basically servitude) just to get laid. I find it disgusting that so many straight men have no self respect and no clue that women want sex too.

    I'm always amazed that prostitution is illegal in America. Straight courtship is nothing but legal prostitution. Just look at your local "ladies night".

    Posted by: Jake | Nov 1, 2010 9:51:11 AM


  8. let = less

    Posted by: Jake | Nov 1, 2010 9:51:40 AM


  9. Jason, you're an idiot who apparently has no female friends. Your notion of female sexuality and its "PC" aspects seems to assume a "Lie back and think of England" mentality. I know many women with sex drives that would cripple many a gay man, and it's not because they're seeking approval.

    Similarly, Jake, lots of women are more than happy to have sex with men they don't care about and want nothing from than a good fuck. Some manipulate, but they probably suck in bed anyway.

    Posted by: Paul R | Nov 1, 2010 10:35:08 AM


  10. Fry didnt go far enough

    women don't just use sex...... they use pregnancy to get a ltr, marriage, the man to stay, to get presents = jewels etc

    Posted by: mstrozfckslv@yahoo.com | Nov 1, 2010 10:39:45 AM


  11. Why should we, as gay men, actually care what straight people do in their bedrooms?

    Posted by: terry | Nov 1, 2010 10:59:49 AM


  12. Stephen Fry does this all the time. He's a moody bitch and he will be back.

    Posted by: Dan | Nov 1, 2010 11:00:38 AM


  13. Even if he did make that statement in that way it seems like a dumb reason to "quit" twitter and silence yourself. Big deal.

    Posted by: Brian in Texas | Nov 1, 2010 11:33:58 AM


  14. Surprising stupidity from the mouth of otherwise pretty intelligent Mr. Fry.

    Unfortunately, not a surprise at all to find all kind of misogynist, heterophobic comments in here.

    Boy, the smell of hypocrisy is overwhelming.

    Posted by: Sam | Nov 1, 2010 12:58:30 PM


  15. I think Stephen got a bum rap, but that doesn't excuse the misogyny that appears in the commentary of supporters.

    Yes, there IS an element of supply/demand in women's sexuality today. Straight men want it, women have it. But this presents its own problems for us, so I thank commenters NOT to present all women as manipulative ice queens, thank you very much.

    Go back in history, though, and it's women who are subject to lustful desires which it is up to men to resist with the power of their logical male brains. Our sexual attitudes are far more influenced by culture than by who has how many sperm and ovum to spread about the gene pool, which is fairly irrelevant to gay men & lesbians anyway.

    It's about as fair to say that women have less sex drive than men than it is to say that men can't commit like women - because after all, what does a lesbian bring on her second date? A moving van.

    There are differences between male and female sexuality, and Stephen Fry shouldn't be strung up on a rack for making that observation. But I think the differences are cultural more than physiological, and like most groups, there's more variation within the population than between the two different populations. You'll get men who don't want sex outside a relationship as much as you get women who just want a one-night stand.

    It's when we act as though cultural perceptions of population trends reflect objective truth that we run into trouble. Among other things.

    Posted by: Mana | Nov 1, 2010 1:04:22 PM


  16. I was surprised when I read he had made that comment, that doesn't sound like him.

    Jake and Jason: You obviously don't know any girls, so shut up... Yes girls want sex, and they also want sex with no strings attached, sometimes. The difference between men and women? Women (unless they're really, really, ugly) can get laid whenever they want to, therefore are never desperate. Straight men on the other hand, don't take care of themselves, look like shit, behave like punks, then go to clubs and wonder why they can't get laid. And therefore are desperate.

    Posted by: Charles | Nov 1, 2010 1:05:05 PM


  17. Wow, I expect misogyny from ehrenstein but not the rest of you. Read Sex at Dawn if you want to understand how the power imbalance started and how men and women actually work. Or at the bloody least, Dan Savage.

    Posted by: CM | Nov 1, 2010 1:18:20 PM


  18. Anyone who makes stereotyping, generalising and spiteful comments about women as a group (or men as a group) for that matter is a cretin and not worth listening to. I'm always amazed at how people come here, read the stories, soak up the politics, and keep not getting a fundamental point. Sad.

    I don't know if Fry was misquoted or not, but if you're in the media eye and make money from it, you have to accept that stuff like this can happen.

    Posted by: Tom Stoppard | Nov 1, 2010 1:43:26 PM


  19. First of all, "all women" don't think the same way about anything.
    Second, I've heard the public sex cliché get trotted out a lot as "proof" that women don't like sex, but there's never any acknowledgment with it that men are *always* safer in public any time, anywhere, regardless of their purpose for being there, than women are. As unwise and potentially dangerous as "cottaging" is for men, it would be that much more unsafe for women, and only a woman with a death wish or a mental illness wouldn't at least take that into consideration before seeking public sex.
    Third, as a straight woman, I am very glad that Jason isn't in my dating pool, since that means I will run into at least one fewer man who has no idea in hell how a woman's genitals work. I mean, "Women have a hole, not an erection"? Really? Women have just as much erectile tissue as men do--only most of it is internal. Your juvenile, misogynistic ignorance is showing here.

    Posted by: Thomasina | Nov 1, 2010 2:05:33 PM


  20. OH yeah, because there are a minority of women out there with sex drives that clearly outmatch your average male...and many were the victims of childhood sexual abuse (of course, there are people who are just hypersexual, and who aren't damaged goods...responding to some kind of abuse or substance problem), we should automatically call his humorous opinion wrong...

    There is a big difference between female and male sexuality...and no, straight men, on average, don't have the sex that gay men have in terms of quantity and variety...and the reason is that they are denied.

    Posted by: TANK | Nov 1, 2010 2:28:39 PM


  21. Oh, and sex at dawn is a neat little piece of EVO POP PSYCH. Evo pop psych is to be taken very, very lightly, as I don't really consider it, overall, a legitimate science (there are some evolutionary psychologists who do some good work, and who are scientists...just not most of 'em! ;))...just a bunch of neat just so stories which are not subject to any test. This isn't to deny that the expression/repression of female sexuality is highly cultural, and likely didn't exist in the pleistocene...so it is largely not a product of evolution. But, there are differences between male and female sexuality that clearly are...and less interest in sex might be one of them.

    Posted by: TANK | Nov 1, 2010 2:34:45 PM


  22. There are people in here who still want to program us with their pseudo-feminist crap.

    The fact of the matter is that Fry made an OBVIOUS observation. There is a a difference when you insult (a la Paladino or McCance) but this is not it. His observation is objective and simple to understand, that is if you actually HANG OUT WITH STRAIGHT people like I do.

    Its not about being "misogynistic" but to merely point out the obvious, it might not be POPULAR to say it but sometimes the truth does hurt. Most straight women know what they are doing, and they know how to get what they want from men, and men fall for it. I've even seen my female friends punch holes in condoms so they can get pregnant by their boyfriends and demand marriage from them etc...

    You guys need to lightened up, this is a cultural issue, yes, but it does no good to try to shut people up.

    Posted by: pepa | Nov 1, 2010 3:10:29 PM


  23. Who the hell is Stephen Fry, and why do I care what he does?

    Posted by: Jeff Kurtti | Nov 1, 2010 4:01:01 PM


  24. Who?

    Posted by: Garst | Nov 1, 2010 4:54:27 PM


  25. wow. as a woman, i'm disheartened by what i've read in these comments. isn't it bad enough that, in a world where people will speak up against the slaughter of others as a result of ethnic friction -- think darfur, or bosnia -- most people look the other way when laws are passed to further those who would treat women as nothing more than slaves (see http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1321504/UAEs-highest-court-rules-men-beat-wives-long-leave-marks.html), but i always thought gay men, at least, would understand how it feels to be treated as "less than." now it seems that, in many cases, gay men not only think we're 'less than," we're also despicable. this actually made me cry.

    Posted by: kim | Nov 1, 2010 5:26:59 PM


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