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Democrats Lose Specials for Weiner's Seat in NY, Ensign's Seat in NV

NOM will be gloating today (UPDATE: and they are) over the loss of Democrat David Weprin to anti-gay Republican Bob Turner for Anthony Weiner's House Seat.

Turner The NYT reports:

With 84 percent of the precincts counted early Wednesday, Mr. Turner was leading Mr. Weprin by 54 percent to 46 percent, according to The Associated Press.

National Republican leaders immediately trumpeted the victory as a sign of trouble for Mr. Obama’s re-election effort. “An unpopular President Obama is now a liability for Democrats nationwide,” Representative Pete Sessions of Texas, the chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said in a statement.

But Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Florida, the chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee, said the district’s large concentration of Orthodox Jews made it unusual and meant the race had few national ramifications.

The National Organization for Marriage. which poured $75K into the race to defeat Assemblyman Weprin, will say it was because of his vote on marriage equality.

Meanwhile, the GOP ran away with a special election in Nevada for the seat of disgraced GOP Senator John Ensign:

With 70 percent of precincts reporting, Amodei had captured 57 percent of the vote to Marshall’s 37 percent in the race to replace former Rep. Dean Heller (R-Nev.), who was appointed to the Senate in April when former Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) resigned amid a scandal. Marshall conceded the race two hours after polls closed in Nevada.

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  1. There were probably a few factors. The Democratic candidate is a career politician with very little charisma, who doesn't live in the district, and backed out of a debate the day of the debate, garnering bad publicity. His vote on gay marriage as a New York State assemblyman certainly played a role, as did Israel. The Democrats picked a placeholder candidate because they expected the district to be eliminated in redistricting. The Republicans picked a candidate that they thought could win the race.

    Posted by: Lish | Sep 14, 2011 7:30:37 AM


  2. I am personally starting to get scared. These vile people can't win and push us backward!! is the whole country insane...look at the Republican Party they are all crazy!! Wake up America!

    Posted by: Paul | Sep 14, 2011 7:38:24 AM


  3. It wasn't John Ensign's seat up for grabs in the election last night. It was Dean Heller's old seat, which he vacated to take John Ensign's old seat.

    Posted by: Sean | Sep 14, 2011 7:56:37 AM


  4. Of course it's a bit early still, but if things hold this way, we can expect a Republican sweep in the next election cycle. What this means to gay America is quite sobering: whatever gains that have been made in the last few years are probably gone, DADT reform included. I would suggest to servicepeople that they not venture too far out of the closet just yet. We can also expect sweeping federal anti-gay legislation on a scale never before seen in this country.

    Posted by: Karl | Sep 14, 2011 8:06:26 AM


  5. Change is on the way! Maybe the Democrats should run someone other than Obama?

    Posted by: Max | Sep 14, 2011 8:12:28 AM


  6. Ah yes, all the KAPOS are lining up to offer "advice."

    Posted by: David Ehrenstein | Sep 14, 2011 8:18:23 AM


  7. Yes, the country is insane. 2012 will be really ugly. Americans refuse to acknowledge the severity of the crisis we're facing and will continue to vote in this party that will entirely destroy what little remains of our social safety net, environmental regulations, labor rights, etc. Be prepared for much greater inequality and insecurity. Oh, and the possibility of being dragged into some World War III type scenario over our support for Israel's policies of ethnic cleansing.

    Posted by: Vlad | Sep 14, 2011 8:19:46 AM


  8. It's a sad day for us in Forest Hills

    Posted by: Rex | Sep 14, 2011 8:21:59 AM


  9. I wished everyone would report the news correctly if they're going to report it. It was Heller's seat in Nevada. Fox reported to be an upset. Why? The seat has been held by a Republican for over 30 years-where is the upset?

    Yes this country is headed for a mess in 2012 and the gays will pay dearly for it. I think it time for the pressure to be put on Obama to withdraw from the race.

    Posted by: macmantoo | Sep 14, 2011 8:29:40 AM


  10. Democrats have held this seat since 1923. The district is heavily Democrat by a three to one ratio. Note that while the district has many Orthodox Jews, they voted for a Republican Catholic over a Democrat Jew.

    If Democrats are losing reliable Jewish votes, then Obama has really destroyed the party. As a staunch Hillary Clinton supporter, I can't help but rub it in: We told you so!

    Posted by: Max | Sep 14, 2011 8:32:42 AM


  11. Vlad is right - this country is doomed. Even if the Democrats ran another candidate they would lose. The "Heartland" thinks the best way out of the economic depression is a war, so a war we will get. I pity the poor children that my friends are having now - it looks like they will be living in a nightmarish dystopia.

    Posted by: IM Emperor Norton | Sep 14, 2011 8:41:52 AM


  12. The 9th congressional district near where I live but not in, is the most conservative, blue collar district in NYC. It's not wonder Weprin lost, many orthodox Jews live there and Hispanics.

    It's not such a huge loss because the district could be eliminated next year leaving Turner to look elsewhere.

    The only sobering thought is if the White House is overtaken by a republican crazy. Kiss our equality goodbye no thanks to the help of gay oxymoronic republicans and their civil libertarian and tea party low information bigoted scumbags.

    Posted by: Robert in NYC | Sep 14, 2011 8:56:06 AM


  13. There is a no more solid Dem. district than this. 2012 will be an unmitigated disaster.

    Posted by: Charley | Sep 14, 2011 9:14:49 AM


  14. Wait, a weak Democratic candidate loses one race and suddenly it's doomsday? I'm not sure this symbolizes much beyond the fact that Dem's should think twice about immediately throwing a good candidate under the bus because he tweeted a few pics and running a lousy one in his place.

    And, Hillaryphiles, please, she couldn't win the primaries, so it's not even certain she'd be President now, much less a good one. Delusional candidacies aren't going to win in 2012. The only people who will gain by running someone other than Obama--not that it's going to happen--are the Republican winguts.

    Is it Drama Queen Wednesday on TR?

    Posted by: Ernie | Sep 14, 2011 9:28:01 AM


  15. NY-9 is a nominally Democratic district that has a conservative tilt, so it's not as reliably Democratic as others in our city. This really centered on the Israel issue. I was shocked to see one local commercial that just singled out Israel as the basis for voting. That closet case Ed Koch certainly got what he wanted. This seat is going away, but it will be interesting to see how much noise Turner will make. And oh yeah, Weprin wasn't that great a choice.

    Posted by: albert | Sep 14, 2011 9:33:55 AM


  16. Barring an act of god we will have a Republican House, Senate and President after the 2012 election. Then all the moderate Supreme Court justices will finally retire and we'll have a VERY conservative court. Then you can kiss ANY road to marriage equality good-bye.

    Posted by: TampaZeke | Sep 14, 2011 9:40:14 AM


  17. Well...I don't know if the wedget issues are going to get Republicans elected. I also don't see strong Republicans who can beat President Obama.
    I also don't see how war of any kind will get us out of the financial mess that we are in. In fact, war is contributing to the our problems. We cannot afford another war.
    War used to be an effective tool for boosting the economy, but not any more...not since we outsource and shifted manufacturing jobs overseas.
    Also, remember the economy is a global issue...not just a local issue...so war cannot help in this scenario.
    I do think the main problem in this country is greed and laziness and sense of entitlement.
    The kids getting out of school think they should earn top dollar because they have an education. The people in the top jobs think they deserve the bonuses that they are getting even if the company isn't making money.
    The richest American's are said to be the job creators so we gave them tax breaks. Well...they have had more then 8 years + years of tax breaks and these jobs haven't materialized.
    I don't think it is up to the president to create jobs...in fact I think that is nuts to think. The jobs the president can create are short-term infastructure jobs...like building roads and bridges...but what happens when those jobs end?
    No, I think our main problem is we aren't focused on reducing our reliance on oil as a fuel source...if we stopped relying on oil and focused on greener technology...we might have a shot and creating something great.
    Also, our main problem is education...why is Asia doing better than us "technologically" because they educate people. We spend less and less on education...I believe on purpose.
    We need to focus on educating all people.
    And we need to make people self-sufficient.
    But thats just me...

    Posted by: Paul | Sep 14, 2011 9:41:07 AM


  18. Our 'problem' is 30 plus years of globalization, 'free' trade, off-shoring of MILLIONS of blue collar and white collar jobs, DECADES of hideous trade imbalances [the U.S. has had over 30 years of non-stop trade deficits with China, for example], deregulation of financial industries that shouldn't have been deregulated, OVER-REGULATION of other industries, a series of 'bubbles' created by excessive easy, cheap credit, that encouraged reckless gambling, then had the public sector
    take responsibility for alleged ''private-sector' financial loss. Authorities tolerance for monopolies doesn't help matters either.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Sep 14, 2011 10:32:44 AM


  19. bad omens for 2012. The gay movement will be dealt a severe blow and a whole new bunch of laws will be enacted to protect the straights from us gays when the (R) majority becomes a super majority. Obama has tried his best but the people around him have failed him and the country by their amateur performances. They have let a majority in Congress slip and now are on the verge of losing the Senate and the Presidency which will have severe impliocations for a generation if the wingnuts get in.

    Posted by: Chris | Sep 14, 2011 10:38:59 AM


  20. I really don't think loss of this seat was influenced by Weprin's pro-gay stance. He was portrayed as soft on Israel as is Obama. No one is permitted to criticize Israel or its policies without penalty. AIPAC controls a lot of money and works hard to protect Israel's interests, even over those of the US. This was more a pro-Israel victory than an anti-gay one.

    Posted by: Bob R | Sep 14, 2011 10:41:06 AM


  21. Say what you want about Hillary, she would have been a much stronger president than BHO. If it hadn't been for the Kennedys being entranced by an untested unknown, she most definitely would be in the White House right now. Americans do not like weak people in office, no matter their political stripe.

    Posted by: Karl | Sep 14, 2011 10:55:06 AM



  22. Ross Perot back in the early 90s was correct about that 'sucking sound',, i.e. the sound of millions of jobs going down the drain, being ''off-shored', and the inevitable results of following neoliberal so-called Reganonomics, ESPECIALLY 'free' trade.

    The radical left and right have brought the U.S., and The West in general, to their knees with their INSANE economic, social and immigration policies.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Sep 14, 2011 10:59:10 AM


  23. Wow, the Hillary army is out in force today! All hail Lady Helmet Head!

    This had virtually nothing to do with Obama, and everything to do with a crappy candidate tokenly put up in a disappearing district by the Democrats.

    Posted by: Gregoire | Sep 14, 2011 11:00:39 AM


  24. Hilary would have lost big-time in 2008 and we would have Miss sarah a heartbeat away from the red-button. Had Hilary won the 2008 nomination for the Dems the entire campaign would have been a re-hashing of Travel-gate, Vince Foster, Monica Lewinsky, the impeachment and whether or not she had a role in the "deny everything" strategy ( I firmly beleive she did) so yeah all you Hillarycrats say what you want but Obama saved us from a McCain?Palin presidency and the stress of the office would probably have done in Mccain such that we would be looking at a Palin presidency .. but hey at least you would have had a woman president, right ? so a partial win.

    Posted by: Jerry | Sep 14, 2011 11:41:06 AM


  25. How 'bout sticking to ISSUES, not goofy name calling and ideological true believer shilling. And not just gay specific issues, but the same tidal wave of negative economic, social, and political INSANITY everyone must struggle with. Gays don't live in a bubble or vacuum. At least most don't.

    Posted by: ratbastard | Sep 14, 2011 12:03:17 PM


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