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  1. peterparker says

    Sadly, the laughter didn’t seem all that nervous, and I think I even heard clapping. What a pig.

  2. gidget says

    Not a prejudiced bone in his body, but that slur just rolled off his tongue sooooo easily. What a lying, phony, arrogant, POS.

  3. Ted says

    People are way to sensitive. Don’t really care for this guy but i’m not going to pretend I am offended by what he said. I think sometimes people are offended by things because they want to be offended.

  4. Tim NC says

    @Ted….. You are sooo right. What he said wasn’t the least bit offensive. He was just trying to make the point that only “lesser” people need to rehearse. And, the best way he could come up with to make that point was to use the term “fag” because everyone knows that fags are “lesser”.

    WTF is wrong with you. He could have just said rehearsing is for actors without talent or lacking in experience. But, no, he had to say “fags”.

    The statement was meant to degrade actors who rehearse. And, we all know the best way to degrade someone is to call them a fag, right!!!!

  5. Jenn says

    So I think we’re going to need to put some pressure on the Academy, and the time to do it is NOW.

  6. Ted says

    @TIM NC…Ever heard of the phrase…”Sticks and Stones…” Seriously. Grow up. Stop wearing your feelings on your sleeve.

  7. Dallas says

    And he totally effed up the X-men trilogy. And it was a “fag” who made the first two so good. So, I think MORE preparation on his part should be encouraged.

  8. Trev says

    How many times do we have to say it? If he said, “cleaning toilets is for n-words,” his career would be over.

    It’s the same thing, but it’s still OK to say “fags” because gay people are less deserving of basic respect.

    This should be a career ending event.

  9. Tim NC says

    @Ted… yes, I’ve heard the phrase “sticks and stones…” that many parents parrot to their children. It’s a nice theory that “names will never hurt you”. But, we all know that in practice, it’s not true. Degrading words and language do hurt. Ask the professionals. Bullying is done with words more frequently than with physical actions. Emotional abuse, done with words, is a very effective tool to keep people in line. Continual casual use of this type of language in the public discourse continues to validate anti-gay opinions of the LGBT community by continuing to refer to the community as being made up of those who are “less than”.

  10. dancobbb says

    THE TRUTH IS THAT RATNER IS A HOMOPHOBE OF THE FIRST ORDER. B O Y C O T T the Oscars and his lousy movie. B O Y C O T T. If you have an ounce of self-respect as gay men, boycott this bigot.

  11. WebHybrid says

    @TREV: +1000

    The guy is/always has been/always will be a pig and should not be supported.

    Ditto for for his champion choice for Academy host: Eddie “Homophobe” Murphy.

  12. says

    In 1990 I was part of an organizing group called “Hollywood Homophobia”. We were tired of being depicted entirely in a negative light in movies. Some of you may not remember how awful it was but being homosexual in movies meant something horrible. We targeted the Oscars, movies and this was the turning point for Hollywood. They were VERY responsive. It was at the general assembly of the DGA on Sunset that provided the moment of change we enjoy to this day. I am personally VERY honored and VERY proud to of been a part of this. It was Gene Momberger, AKA Mr. Mom, who was the conceiver of this movement. Sadly he died from AIDS some time ago. We owe a lot to Mr. Mom and what he began. I became active in politics after being attacked by men with baseball bats and chains on Santa Monica BLVD in West Hollywood. When I was released from the hospital I was motivated to NEVER, EVER be silent again. The Academy needs to dump this guy. And sorry to the producers of this movie but no gay person should see this movie and I think it is in our best interest to ask others not to also. To those here who are not that offended and think we should let it pass. That is just what we were told when the Hollywood Homophobia campaign was born. It changed everything and had we listened to those who said let it all go we might be where we were 20 years ago or worse. Don’t let down Mr. MOM and don’t let down those of us who have been beaten in the street fighting because you might feel uncomfortable. Stand up, speak up, call the Academy and don’t go see this movie. Don’t appease. I am sure he is sorry but let’s make sure he knows we mean business.

  13. sleepy bear says

    its not that hard to not be an idiot.

    straight people who really do have people that they love that just happen to be gay, don’t go around spewing homophobic slurs…
    it takes an effort to be offensive.

    at some point self-preservation must kick in even among the stupid… you certainly wouldn’t see this pos spouting racial or anti-semitic slurs as a knee-jerk reaction to a simple question. unless he really wanted to end his career.

  14. JAZ says

    Let’s be clear here. The N word and Fag are not equal to each other. This is not something you can argue. The word Fag does not carry the history as the N word. Please stop equating black civil rights to gay civil rights in America. It’s not the same thing.

  15. jhr459 says

    Ted – are you serious-have you been asleep for the past decade? Tons of teen suicides are caused by those ‘words (that) will never hurt me’. Words do hurt and especially when you are just forming your self image. What’s wrong with you? ‘Sticks and stones’ indeed – what are you, 13?

  16. Fat Pig says

    Don’t forget that this pig is good friends with Whoriah Carey and has directed many videos for her, so make sure not to buy anything by fellow pig Whoriah either.

  17. Vince says

    Although the Academy’s words in response to Brett Ratner’s moronic remarks seem comforting, bear in mind this is the same organization that let remarks from Ernest Borgnine and Tony Curtis stand when “Brokeback Mountain” was denied the Oscar for Best Picture. They thought the movie was disgusting and wouldn’t be caught dead seeing it. It is now common knowledge that Brokeback Mountain lost the Oscar because of the not-so latent homophobia in Hollywood. Members of the Academy wouldn’t even go see the movie!

    As for a boycott, that should’ve been initiated back in 2006, after those diastrous awards. But back then the gay community bent over backwards trying to believe a mediocre piece of crap like Crash could be considered a superior movie to the work of art that is Brokeback Mountain.

    I felt then, and still feel, that people like Brett Ratner are not the exception, but the rule in Hollywood and that the Academy is an enabler of homophobia.

  18. says

    Jaz,

    Gay people have been around as long as black people. Back in the days when they were hanging black people, if those who were hanging blacks knew you would gay, do you think for one minute, you would not be hanging right along side the black people?

    To my knowledge, no one has ever tried to compare black people to gay people, but you can ABSOLUTELY compare (and argue) the fight for civil rights between blacks and gays are the same. The words may have changed, and the ways in which these two groups have been discriminated against may change. But, throughout history, gay people have been every bit as much hated and persecuted as any group of people.

    Next I guess you want to say their were no gays gassed in the holocaust.

  19. Wayne says

    I’m still pissed off at the Oscars over Brokeback Mountain, so this years choice Bigot Ratner and Bigot Eddie Murphy only ensures that I won’t be watching.

  20. just_a_guy says

    What can I say? I will not watch the Oscars this year.

    Hollywood is anti-gay and proud of it I guess. F*** them. Typical, considering the shi**y state of gay rights in this country. They should be ashamed of themselves; I’m ashamed of them.

    I’ve said it before: Things are not better. If you superimpose race and sex discrimination timelines onto sexual orientation and how it’s treated today…it is roughly 1885. That’s what we face. Let’s not lie about it.

    One day, people like this in Hollywood and law will be looked back in scorn. It’s up to you and me to spend our lives doing the right thing and making sure that day comes.

    To our kids, y’all.

  21. Phineas Talbot says

    I’d say that the gays have a pretty long history of being persecuted – like the last 2,000 f**king years!

  22. just_a_guy says

    The core of the problem isn’t that I or we or gay people or gay-friendly people got their feelings hurt.

    No. The core of the problem is that Brett Rattner or ANYONE uses OR ACCEPTS this sort of language because they BELEIVE IT’S TRUE.

    In 1885, you could toss around ni**er or ki*e or how many other slurs and no one batted an eye. Heck, even regular-going people you referred to would DEFEND you…just like many TR-posters even defend Rattner and others. Cuz most gay-folk today have faced so much hate that they endorse this sort of bullsh** as harmless–because they don’t want to take on the emotional burden of the TRUTH: The acceptance of this sort of language reflects an underlying belief that gay people are inferior. And that it’s ok to slip up sometimes and admit that you think so, too. Cuz it’s true right?

    And then when 13 yos (or ill-adjusted 18 yo’s or 23 yo’s) kill themselve because they feel like no one would value them—-

    well, that’s just a reflection of the TRUTH that gay people are inferior, right?!!

    THIS is the message “the Academy” is sending to Amerika this year.

    What an “Academy.”

    Shame.

  23. just_a_guy says

    If Brett Rattner has a conscience and TRULY loves his gay “friends” as fellow EQUAL human beings… he will resign from his role with the Oscar’s this year.

    I’m waiting.

    One can hope, right?

  24. MKe says

    i’m not that offended by it. i do think he was trying to praise himself and had to cut a corner to not be too blantent, so he threw a ridiculous joke in there and forgot he’s supposed to try and not say ‘fags’. but whatever he apologized. i didn’t know much about him before this and i’ll continue to not know much about him.

  25. just_a_guy says

    It’s not about punishing someone for a “mistake.” And a joke shows the truth of someone’s beliefs–perhaps more than anything.

    It’s about the message that the Academy sends to young Americans—whether LGBT or with LGBT classmates or siblings.

    Is it honorable for the Academy to send the message they are sending by keeping Brett Rattner as a celebrated, respected illustration of the craft, business, and integrity of show business?

    Is it really?

  26. Rin says

    Maybe he was saying that gay people are over-achievers and like to work and practice really hard to get it right?

    Oh, what am I saying….

    This is a dude who masterbates with shrimp fat on his hand, so his opinion on gays and lesbians is about as relevant as Barney the crackheads’s.

    Shrimp fat, dudes, shrimp fat.

  27. Louie says

    Rehearsals are for f*gs, cleaning toilets is for n-words, and all K*kes are nasty, pushy, pompous, and control Hollywood. All blonds are stupid. All lesbians play…. lacrosse? sigh…. feel free to add your own stereotype to promote, positively or negatively. This guy is so nasty and pompous…

  28. just_a_guy says

    @Louie…ok, but ur comment seems a bit dismissive:
    -your comment about Jews and Lesbians could be read as compliments.
    -blonds are not REALLY discriminated against, please.

    But the notion that “rehearsals are for fags” has the CLEAR subtext that gay guys just can’t get it right, can’t “play ball,” are not “real men,” etc.

    Too many young gay men internalize these false beliefs. I don’t even need to spell out the dire consequences.

    The Academy is sending the wrong message by saying these beliefs are as harmless as joking about blonds being ditzy.

    I don’t think it’s too much to expect them to own up to what’s going on and to act responsibly.

  29. Francis says

    My posts haven’t been clearing, don’t know why. Anyway, did he use the slur in an off the cuff manner, or was he making a homophobic joke? I think that, obviously, he’s wrong in either case. Unfortunately this word, along with other slurs, have become so normalized that a lot of people use it without realizing the power behind it—-or caring about the power behind it. Mr. Ratner has no excuse, though, as he’s in a business that is filled to the brim with gay and lesbian individuals. The fact he didn’t know better than to not use this type of language in itself is alarming. At the very least, it shows a lack of character and professionalism.

    Whether he’d be fired if he used other slurs, I think that a lot of people are going to take this as Mr. Ratner saying something unfortunate “in jest”. Which is ridiculous, but that’s how it is. Like we saw with Tracy Morgan and Kobe Bryant, using gay slurs arbitrarily with offensive intent is not acceptable in our society. But using them in jest still is, which is the problem. Ultimately, the Academy’s response is decent, but action needs to be taken here, in one form or another, to take a stand against this sort of offensive language.

  30. Mike says

    Please sign this petition to the Academy, asking them to replace Ratner as producer of the Oscars. All letters are emailed directly to the Academy:

    http://goo.gl/YY2XS

    An apology from Ratner is not enough, nor would any statement from the Academy merely distancing themselves from the original remark. As Mark Harris of Grantland.com (http://goo.gl/N55jt) so eloquently stated:

    “I’ve had to listen to versions of every one of these mea-not-quite-culpas over the years and seriously, I’m no longer interested in patiently witnessing the slow arc of a public figure’s learning curve. What I do care about is what the Academy does, which should be either to ask for and receive his resignation from the show or to drop him as the producer of a show that is supposed to represent the best the industry has to offer. There’s not really a long, nuanced debate to be had about this. If he had used an equivalent racial or religious slur, the discussion would go something like, ‘You’re fired.’ Apology or not. The same rule applies here. You don’t get a mulligan on homophobia. Not in 2011.”

  31. vicente M. says

    This hack is the new, straight, Allan Carr. All he needs is a caftan, &
    a pile of coke in front of him. He even bought Carr’s old home in
    Beverly Hills. Like Carr, he makes lousy movies, trys to bang every- one new in town, is all trash, and flash-no class. He’s a fat pig,
    who thinks he’s attractive. And now, he’s producing the Oscars ?
    He’ll ruin the show-just like Carr did in 1989, with Rob Lowe / Snow
    White. HOMOPHOBE.

  32. Hollywood, CA says

    “This is about integrity and honoring the Academy Awards, but we all make mistakes and I believe he didn’t mean it.” – And Kobe did? Kobe was also using it to mean something besides “gay,” and he was fined? Why does Brett get off so easy?

  33. Hollywood, CA says

    “If he said, “cleaning toilets is for n-words,” his career would be over.” – If he had used the “N” word, all the black people in the audience would have 1. Not clapped. 2. Jumped up on stage and whooped his ass.

    When GAY people start acting like BLACK people and begin kicking ass and taking names, then you’ll see the same results. But, until that happens, the F word is not going anywhere, quickly.

  34. Bob says

    This reminds me of a scene from the movie “Big”. A ten year old boy suddenly finds himself in a man’s body being interviewed by an adult.