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  1. Bobby says

    I agree with Andy Cohen one thousand percent! I honestly think gay republicans have daddy issues and are on a quest to make their fathers proud or to be exactly like their fathers. They are a sad lot who obviously don’t think too deeply. If your pocket is all you care about I hope it keeps you warm when you’re all alone.

  2. Bobby says

    I agree with Andy Cohen one thousand percent! I honestly think gay republicans have daddy issues and are on a quest to make their fathers proud or to be exactly like their fathers. They are a sad lot who obviously don’t think too deeply. If your pocket is all you care about I hope it keeps you warm when you’re all alone.

  3. says

    don’t worry, Andy. They don’t know why they’re Republicans, either.

    i mean, they *think* they do, but they’re wrong. it has nothing to do with fiscal anything – it’s just identity politics, and it’s sadly the only way they’re able to attain a level of “tolerance” from their family and community – lean right, slander liberals, distance yourself from “those other gays”, and regurgitate racial prejudice.

    that’s what makes a gay republican.

  4. Mic says

    I wonder how many of these gay rethugnicans have fathers that were bullies, or still are. Since republicanism is just a fancy word for bully (witness the GOProud silly hostility toward Barrack Obama) I would venture to guess that reinacting being a Bully is the oly way these republican gay trolls can reduce the amount of bullying their fathers push on them.

    Little Kiwi’s arguments look stronger and stronger everytime a Goper Gay opens his mouth on this site.

    Of ourse, NOM CATHOLIC MORMONS are probably LOVING the fact that the ‘Gay’ vote is split. Everytime a Goper is bashed here (even by me) Brian Brown gets a hard on.

    Gays fighting? SPROIIING!!!!

  5. Mic says

    I wonder how many of these gay rethugnicans have fathers that were bullies, or still are. Since republicanism is just a fancy word for bully (witness the GOProud silly hostility toward Barrack Obama) I would venture to guess that reinacting being a Bully is the oly way these republican gay trolls can reduce the amount of bullying their fathers push on them.

    Little Kiwi’s arguments look stronger and stronger everytime a Goper Gay opens his mouth on this site.

    Of ourse, NOM CATHOLIC MORMONS are probably LOVING the fact that the ‘Gay’ vote is split. Everytime a Goper is bashed here (even by me) Brian Brown gets a hard on.

    Gays fighting? SPROIIING!!!!

  6. Rick says

    For many gay people, perhaps most, their “gayness” is far from being the most important thing in their lives.

    Most gay people are not interested in getting married, do not seriously believe that passing anti-discrimination laws will make any difference in the workplace or elsewhere, and are not really concerned with hate crimes legislation because the likelihood that they will be victimized by a hate crime, if they are not flamboyantly effeminate, is negligible. So the “gay political agenda” is largely irrelevant to them from a practical perspective and only matters symbolically.

    At the same time, gay people, like other people, have a wide range of views on matters like foreign affairs, economic policy, environmental issues, social issues other than gay rights.

    So if you are of a conservative bent and believe that government policy on these other issues matters more to your life than policies on gay rights that are unlikely to make much difference at all in your life, then it makes sense to you, in all likelihood, to align yourself with the Republican Party and attempt to change its positions on gay rights from within, rather than to align yourself with the Democratic Party–a party whose positions on most issues you don’t agree with–just because more of its members have a pro-gay-rights position at this point in history.

    Most people are not single-issue voters and furthermore, not all Republicans are anti-gay–in fact, most opinion polls recently have shown that the majority of them favored DADT repeal, favor equality in the work place, and are in favor of civil unions, with a growing percentage also being in favor of marriage.

    Not really hard to understand if one thinks about it rationally and objectively.

  7. Rick says

    “I honestly think gay republicans have daddy issues and are on a quest to make their fathers proud or to be exactly like their fathers.”

    “I wonder how many of these gay rethugnicans have fathers that were bullies”

    The more I read this blog, the more I understand where the effeminate gay man’s hatred of men and idolization of women comes from.

  8. GeorgeM says

    Andy’s right it is about the wallet to them, it means more then being equal in the eyes of the government. LCR is the better of the two groups but will still pic financial issues over them selves

  9. Matt says

    @Rick Just because a person cares about anti-discrimination laws doesn’t mean that their gayness is the most prevalent thing in life.

    I’m sure at one point someone said that sexual harassment laws in the workplace made no difference as sexual harassment would still occur. They’re right to a point, only difference is that now there are laws prohibiting it, making it a priority for companies to protect employees against it or pay the price of a hefty lawsuit and bad PR.

    You’re right, gay people have a wide range of interests, so do straight people, but just as straight people are interested in adequately providing for their families, so do gay people. Does that mean that everyone – gay or straight – are completely superficial?

    Depending on who you talk to or what you read, sure you’ll find republicans supportive of gay people, however, at the end of the day, Republicans said “hey, I want Mitt Romney to represent my interests in the next election”. I don’t think anyone is sitting here talking about individuals, they’re talking in generalizations. That can be a risky way to go about it, but it can be equally risky when talking about the individuals, and individuals generally don’t represent a movement as a whole.

    Not really hard to understand if one thinks about it rationally and objectively.

  10. says

    fun and hilarious Fact – RICK is the perfect example of a gay man whose father hated having him for a son. he blames the “femmes” for the fact that his dad hated him, and for the fact that he is, to this day, still too cowardly to Live Out and put a face to his comments.

    every angry anonymous ramble only proves me (and others) to be more and more right. of course you lean right – that’s what you had to do to stop daddy from hating you. didn’t work, though, did it? Nope.

    the only, ONLY, gay men who are “defined by their gayness” are the wimps who are still running around insisting that they’re “not defined by their gayness”. yes. you are. and you’re the only ones. because you’re still holding yourself up to “Straight” as your marker for self-worth, and you’re still worrying what The Straights are saying or thinking about you.

    Now, some will argue against this. They won’t, however, be able to put a face to their arguments. Thus proving me right. So suck on that. Lord knows it’s likely the only thing you’ve had to suck on in the last decade….

  11. anon says

    I just checked their website to be sure: the LCR supports gay marriage, repealing DOMA, Olson & Bois on Prop 8 and repealing DADT. I think they are ambivalent about ENDA, however. Andy C’s issue with them is not over gay rights, but over other progressive causes they don’t support.

  12. says

    the funny thing is it’s actually GOP-voters who are “one issue” voters.

    And hear me Out – we all know the GOP base is full of the stupidest people in America. Why? Because when you throw out opinions and just stick to policies and facts these are millions of blithering idiots who are voting AGAINST THEIR OWN FINANCIAL BEST INTERESTS. Why? Jingoistic Nationalism, Identity Politics, and (drumrollplease) “SOCIAL ISSUES”

    This is why you get broke@ss families with no healthcoverage and no jobs voting GOP -cuz republicans hate them homosexicals and abortions and jewmuslimarabs.

    that’s it. that’s the issue they vote on – what looks more like a traditional white christian american who cares about liberty, tiny little flags, and apple pie cooling on a windowsill.

    it’s not that they see a wide variety of issues and policies that need to be carefully thought over – they vote based on the same criteria their family and stupid communities vote – the Jeebus Was White vote.

    republicans “that support gay people” are idiots. because their support is nothing more than cowardly lip-service. “oh, i’m not like those other republicans that hate guys, i love you guys! btw, i’m voting for a man who wants to ban y’all from marrying, federally, and the party that still overwhelmingly works to block any and all advancements for equality for your people.”

    suck my balls. that’s not love and support. that’s antipathy.

  13. says

    ANON – there’s a very big difference between what the LCR “Supports” and what the LCR “Actively Champions and works hard to do”

    you’ll notice they take the coward’s stance, and not the fighter’s stance, on nearly every LGBT-related issue.

    support is not enough. it’s what one actually actively promotes and works for that counts. and they dont’ do much.

  14. Caliban says

    While I’m sure there are Republicans and “fiscal conservatives” who either don’t care about gay rights or are even pro-gay, if you look at the GOP party platforms state by state most are opposed to gay rights and many are rabidly anti-gay and use Religious Right rhetoric. The Republican party has and DOES exploit anti-gay animus as a wedge issue to get votes, to convince people to vote against their own financial interests to benefit corporations and the already very wealthy.

    The GOP is living proof of the Sinclair Lewis quote, “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.”

    Even IF a Republican candidate has no personal problem with gays they will still be pressured to vote along party lines to keep the Religious Right happy or, as so many of them claim, to vote how the people of their state or district feel even if they disagree.

    So no, I don’t understand gay Republicans either. Even IF I agreed with Republican policies (which I don’t) their open desire to not only limit the rights I get in the future but also take away the rights I already have pretty much rules out my voting for them, ever. It’s a funny little quirk of mine I guess, not to vote for people who see me as less than human, unworthy of rights equal to their own.

  15. Rick says

    @ANON Good point. And it should be noted that the Log Cabin Republicans have played a critical role in virtually all the legislative victories we have achieved recently, from DADT repeal to legalization of same-sex marriage in New York. In fact, hardly any pro-gay legislation has ever passed anywhere without bipartisan support–nor is any likely to in the future–so it will continue to be important for gay people to have a significant presence in both major parties.

    Relatedly, full social acceptance of gays will depend on the vast majority of the population dispensing with their homophobia, which necessarily means reaching out to the more conservative elements of the population…..and the best way for gay people to do that is to be seated at the table with them and give them a comfort level with us, which is the surest means to social change….and one of the best ways to do that is for some gays to be active in the Republican Party.

    They are doing far more to advance our cause than the radical clowns parading around in the streets in high heels at Pride, who do nothing but reinforce negative stereotypes of us and alienate people in the social mainstream.

  16. says

    and the thing is, Caliban, the “gay marriage isnt’ that important” excuse that Gay Republicans give just shows how lacking in balls and honesty they are.

    because it’s not actually about marriage. that’s right. the “gay marriage” debate is not about gay marriage. it’ about anti-gay bigotry.

    and gay republicans are the biggest cowards in America. they’re not man enough to stand up to anti-gay bigots and combat the bigotry. they suck the right’s teat and say “ugh, i can’t stand those liberal lefist gays, either. so don’t hate me, hate THEM, i’m not like THEM!”

    damn right you’re not like us. we respect ourselves and will never neuter ourselves in order to appear non-threatening.

    so yeah, when they say “there are bigger issues in the country than gay marriage” what they’re really saying is “My parents won’t tolerate me anymore if i start demanding to be equal in this country and dare to rise against their bigotry. i need to hate liberal gays in order to avoid shaming them”

    p a t h e t i c

  17. rk says

    @Rick. If what you say is true, then why is there almost no gay representation on television, movies,ADs, and legislative bodies throughout the country, and the list goes on. You state you have not experienced discrimination for being a gay man. That may be true if you live in an enlighted community, but I am sure that is not true. Just the fact you do not see yourself on a daily basis on TV, advertisements, etc IS discrimination. And marriage is important because it has deeper meaning than civil unions from a legal standpoint. All the other issues are important, but at the end of the day if you are not recognized as an equal human being then nothing else matters.

  18. says

    if RICK believed what he says then he’d be the Most Out gay man in America.

    but he’s not. for very important reasons.

    1. he’s not Out
    2. he’s not masculine, even though he wishes he was via his online anonymity
    3. he doesn’t have the balls to stand up to be counted as a gay man

    RICK, everyone knows you’re a troll, and we’re really sorry that your parents spent every day with you wishing they’d coughed up the coin for that abortion 53 years ago.

    i mean, RICK could always show us all the Example he lives on a daily basis. You know, put a face to those claims and show what an “Acceptable for Republicans” Homosexual he is. But we all already know what kind of gays are “acceptable to republicans” – the wimpy neutered ones that can’t stand up for themselves.

    oh well 😀

  19. says

    btw, my parents march in the pride parade every year.

    if my mum and dad, who are in their sixties, don’t have a problem with any of the others who march or take part in the parade, why do some of the gay men here?

    oh, right. because your dads didnt’ love and you still think it’s because of, uh, “men in heels” or “stereotypes”

    it’s neither. it’s because your dad was an @sshole and you were a wimp who never earned his respect. truth.

  20. Disgusted American says

    I guess Im a 1 issue voter then – cause to me, as a Gay American…My Equality as a American is #1 period!!! My equlaity in EVERY aspect of American Life is no#1 with me! So – I’ll NEVER VOTE for this brand of GOP Hate mongers and Bigots! My Equal Rights trump any Material things!

  21. Disgusted American says

    I guess Im a 1 issue voter then – cause to me, as a Gay American…My Equality as a American is #1 period!!! My equlaity in EVERY aspect of American Life is no#1 with me! So – I’ll NEVER VOTE for this brand of GOP Hate mongers and Bigots! My Equal Rights trump any Material things!

  22. Disgusted American says

    I guess Im a 1 issue voter then – cause to me, as a Gay American…My Equality as a American is #1 period!!! My equlaity in EVERY aspect of American Life is no#1 with me! So – I’ll NEVER VOTE for this brand of GOP Hate mongers and Bigots! My Equal Rights trump any Material things!

  23. Disgusted American says

    I guess Im a 1 issue voter then – cause to me, as a Gay American…My Equality as a American is #1 period!!! My equlaity in EVERY aspect of American Life is no#1 with me! So – I’ll NEVER VOTE for this brand of GOP Hate mongers and Bigots! My Equal Rights trump any Material things!

  24. says

    I’m a Libertarian, but what I find extremely telling is how hateful people like @LittlePeePee and some of your are in this thread. If you are the so-called ‘tolerant’ ones, you need to look up that word in the dictionary, honey, because there ain’t nothin’ tolerant about your blind hatred for those you don’t agree with. Shameful.

  25. Rick says

    @RK I didn’t say I had not experienced discrimination; we all have, in one way or another; I simply said that many gay people do not believe that passing legislation will make much difference in eliminating discrimination in the workplace or elsewhere.

    I don’t believe it will make much difference, myself–I think the real key to eradicating homophobia is to change the male culture, which will not occur via legislation.

    That said, I am all for such legislation ans support efforts to pass it.

    As do most gay Republicans.

    (Although, just to be clear, I am not a Republican, myself.)

  26. says

    Alan, I’m sorry that your own family offers no support for you, nor acceptance.

    But at some point you’ll have to grow a pair and realize that your “tolerating their intolerance” is the reason you’ve not been accepted.

    Take a lesson from liberals – when you stop tolerating intolerance, it forces people to rethink their positions. How well has “your” way worked for you so far? All that right-wing sucking up, and you’re still an embarrassment and shame to them.

    it’s not a difference of opinion, it’s an opinion steeped in bigotry, prejudicial rhetoric, and a refusal to acknowledge truths.

    and as long as you and wimps like Rick, who wants to “change male culture” but not actually change it. no, that would require work and being Out. he wants other people to change it “for him” while he remains closeted. won’t happen. Out gay men aren’t crippled by hateful insecurity like he is. so he’ll just die miserable and jealous and alone 😀

  27. LincolnLounger says

    What a load of crap. We all know that the more people who have gay friends and family members are much more likely to become supportive on issues important to the gay community. However, those who preach for tolerance scream in horror and outrage at anyone who dares even consider being a Republican. Ridiculous.

    We should celebrate the brave individuals who are putting themselves out there instead of excoriating them. They are doing the Lord’s work. So many times the ones pleading for tolerance and inclusion are the least tolerant and inclusive. And there’s never a mention of all the huge amount of conservative gay Democrats.

    I dream of a world without the self-appointed Gay spokesman and Chief Narcissist of Bravo, Andy Cohen.

  28. says

    hey LincolnLOunger, stop “dreaming” of that world and stand up and do it yourself.

    Get a homepage. Make a youtube video. Oh, wait. That would require you to be something other than a cowardly self-hating homosexual wimp whose family doesn’t love him though, right?

    too bad then. keep complaining anonymously. way to change the world, wuss 😀

  29. Not that Rob says

    @rick and all his other troll friends

    Being tolerant of intolerance does not make you tolerant. It makes you yourself intolerant.

    I know your mind probably exploded reading that sentence. Take a few minutes/hours/years to ponder that one.

  30. Mary says

    I joined the Log Cabin Republicans last month when I decided to switch sides on the gay equality issue. I haven’t yet attended any meetings or met any people, but the group’s website states that it supports marriage equality.

    Also, for equality to be a bi-partisan issue it needs advocates in BOTH parties. Making the Republican party pro-gay won’t happen overnight. And it will never happen at all of gays (and their straight allies) shun the Republican party completely.

    I can understand why gay liberals and moderates would despise LCR. But it serves a useful function. If it does nothing but prevent pro-gay Republicans from being totally isolated it’s still useful.

  31. UFFDA says

    Rick says –
    “They (Log Cabin people) are doing far more to advance our cause than the radical clowns parading around in the streets in high heels at Pride, who do nothing but reinforce negative stereotypes of us and alienate people in the social mainstream.”

    This is entirely true, absolutely undeniable and totally manfest. Also that every cause has it’s underbelly.

    Well behaved, naturally effeminant men are as fine as any other. Though they may make a good many people uncomfortable most can get over it. Flambuoyant queens misbehaving in a public parade are another – disastrous – thing altogether and are rightly scorned or viewed with contempt. Yet we will succeed despite their unhelpful effect which is at least as poisonous as the religious right.

    KIWI of course sputters with rage, cannot change these facts, takes up far too much space and is best left unread.

  32. UFFDA says

    Rick says –
    “They (Log Cabin people) are doing far more to advance our cause than the radical clowns parading around in the streets in high heels at Pride, who do nothing but reinforce negative stereotypes of us and alienate people in the social mainstream.”

    This is entirely true, absolutely undeniable and totally manfest. Also that every cause has it’s underbelly.

    Well behaved, naturally effeminant men are as fine as any other. Though they may make a good many people uncomfortable most can get over it. Flambuoyant queens misbehaving in a public parade are another – disastrous – thing altogether and are rightly scorned or viewed with contempt. Yet we will succeed despite their unhelpful effect which is at least as poisonous as the religious right.

    KIWI of course sputters with rage, cannot change these facts, takes up far too much space and is best left unread.

  33. Task says

    “Yet we will succeed despite their unhelpful effect which is AT LEAST AS POISONOUS (emphasis mine) as the religious right.”

    You cannot be serious. I can’t believe it. Now I’ve heard everything.

  34. DJ says

    Andy Cohen is making generalizations about a topic he knows nothing about. I can understand that level of ignorance from Matthews, but Cohen does surprise me because of his past work about Log Cabin Republicans. The Republican Party is not just about the wallet. Yes, we do believe in free enterprise, capitalism and low taxes which all relate to money. But it is more than that. We believe in personal responsibility, small government and strict constitutional interpretation. Do I, as a gay republican, care about equality for all including gay men and women? Of course I do. To say anything other than that is plain stupidity. However, do I vote for a man (or woman) that I disagree with 99% of the time just because he or she may support gay rights or do I vote for someone that I agree with 99% but disagree with their stance on gay marriage? I respect everyone’s right to chose and believe what they want. What I find most disturbing and offensive, is that the gay community always resorts to name calling and slander when presented with opinions other than what they personally believe. Just read the comments posted above for examples. I understand that most of the gay community is liberal. But please, just because you happen to disagree with me on my political beliefs, please refrain from the name calling, the slandering and the discrimination that is often directed towards me or anyone else that happen to believe as I do.

  35. say what says

    well seeing how the evidence & history shows that republican policies only put more $ in the 1%s pockets and everyone else’s finances go down while Dem policies put more $ in everyone’s pockets

    the gay republican excuse of “financial conservative” is BS since most of them not only don’t benefit from repub financial policies but are many times hurt by such

    its all about the racism with gay repubs

    & anecdotal evidence, I have never met a gay repub who wasn’t a raving racist

  36. MateoM says

    DJ, people were mostly getting testy with guys like Alan and Rick who troll on here and say anti-femme/women/people of color things frequently.

  37. MateoM says

    DJ, people were mostly getting testy with guys like Alan and Rick who troll on here and say anti-femme/women/people of color things frequently.

  38. DJ says

    @Say What

    All I can say is WOW. I can’t even believe someone can make a statement like that. I am a gay republican and I am far from being racist. For you to make such a sweeping generalization such as that does nothing more that show your racial belief.

  39. Josh says

    Tolerance does not include tolerating intolerance as that would negate tolerance to begin with.

    Also we socially and culturally construct tolerance by shaming intolerance.

  40. says

    Hey DJ, how about you show us all the incredible pro-Equality work that you and your Republican family are doing to promote understand and acceptance of LGBT people within the GOP?

    Simply put, I call your bluff. What specific work are you and your GOP-voting family doing to promote Equality for LGBT people within the GOP?

    For once it’d be remarkable for one of these “gay republicans” to actually put a face to their claims and back their s**t up.

  41. GeorgeM says

    How does the republicans party equate small government and the way they treat or legislate laws about us? Personally I think it’s a joke but that’s just my belief

  42. says

    THANK YOU SAY WHAT!

    If you want to just deal with policies and facts, there’s nothing “fiscally conservative’ about the GOPs fiscal plans. It’s hoarding money for the wealthiest percentile, at the expense of all others.

    And again, no “gay republicans” can put a face to their comments. Telling. You show me a gay republican and I’ll show you a wimp who never learned to stand up to his lame-@ss parents.

  43. screech says

    So, republicans, suppose you are preaching to the choir here. I’ve bashed Obama quite a few times on foreign policy and his economic policy. I think he’s just as bad as Bush. Now I’m a socialist, but I can respect libertarianism and fiscal conservativism in warranted times (like right now). But your party has overwhelmingly distanced itself from libertarian/conservative policies and Romney is a neo-con who will continue the wars and much of the same economic policy that is crippling the system. So now I’m left with choosing between two duds. So I’m not a one issue voter, but Obama seems to be stepping up in the LGBT department. Granted it isn’t altruistic, we had to buy him. And I do think it will help consolidate the base. If republicans really wanted to win this election, they would in fact support LGBT rights. Why would an independent voter vote for Romney when he just IS Obama minus the gay rights?

    That makes no sense. While I can see withholding your vote for moral reasons, I can’t hold down my vomit long enough to vote for Romney. And if you are arguing about fiscal conservativism, Romney isn’t one of those. I don’t get your angle.

  44. says

    Screech, you’re asking for logic, facts, and legit reasons from a group of wimpy reluctant-homosexuals who are only Republicans because if they “go liberal” their parents will wholly disown them.

    By being Republican they get tolerated. Not accepted. Not loved. Not supported. TOLERATED.

    And if any gay republicans want to prove me wrong I freakin’ welcome it. Let’s see you and your families, and how much pro-Equality work they’re doing within the GOP.

  45. Bob says

    REQUIREMENTS TO BE ONE OF TODAY’S REPUBLICANS…..
    1– be selfish and greedy
    2– take a cynical view of human nature
    3– have a deep desire to be “Whitened” by your association with other republicans

    TO BE A GAY REPUBLICAN………..
    Be foolish enough to think they are going to listen to you, when they are getting 100s of millions from right wing haters.

    TO BE A GAY REPUBLICAN WITH POWER….
    Resign, and tell them you will be back when they are for equality.

  46. Penny says

    Hi! I’m Kiwi’s dog, Penny Lois Lane. And even I (and I underline “I”) know what’s wrong with my master Kiwi’s single-minded obsession that all progress has to be overt. For example, a pro-gay Republican Christian is at a church fuction. She hears two young teens from the church talk about some kid at school who everyone thinks is gay. One of them jokes how he ridiculed this kid in the hallway, and the other teens present start laughing. This pro-gay women intervenes, telling the boys that what they’re doing is unChristian and asks them to show here where Jesus said people should be ridiculed. They reluctantly agree that she’s right. She tells them that far from teasing him, these boys should be defending him against other kids who would abuse him. Hasn’t she at done her part to reduce homophbia? Don’t a lot of little actions like this make a difference?

    Incidentally, go to Youtube and type in “The Happiest Dog in the world.” There you’ll see a brief video of me rejoicing when my master Kiwi comes home after being away for 8 months. I jump up on him and lick him. I also dance around in circles in excitement. It’s friggin adorable!

  47. Fred says

    What no one wants to admit is the we place the country’s future above this issue. No one wants to admit that we place certain fundamental principles first.

    If the US sinks into a government-controlled state, LGBT people sink with it. If the president is reelected, perhaps certain LGBT issues will be better handled, but the price is the endless expansion of government in our lives, destructive debt and contraction of our productive economy. It would be a hollow victory. What good are these “rights” in a straight-jacketed, desolate land?

  48. says

    again, why can’t the gay republicans on here show us the specific pro-Equality work they’re doing within the GOP?

    dont just say “not all republicans hate gays” – prove it. show us what work you and your GOP-voting families are doing to advance Equality.

  49. GeorgeM says

    For me I see a difference between Romney and Paul singer. Ones a republican and ones a conservitive. Republicans are not conservitives. Tru conservitives believe in our freedom and fight for equality because to them government should never be in the business of dictating lives.

    Republicans believe the opposite. To them morality is forcible, abortion, Gays, women ect. Religion is key and strongly suggested.

    Conservitive / republican party died long ago, the two split and run side by side. If republicans truly returned to the party of Lincoln more gay people would join. Romney is NOT a conservitive, he’s a republican
    Big difference

  50. says

    I suppose delusional gay Republicans will always exist, and as long as they can rake in a few funding dollars, so will the Log Cabin Republicans, who, yes, support gay rights but also support a host of candidates who don’t, since virtually no elected Republicans are on our side (with a handful of thoughtful exceptions). But the 2012 elected Republican mainstream is more anti-gay than ever, so the LCR’s influence in the party has been, alas, negligible. No pro-gay legislation has ever resulted from a Republican majority. None.

    And legal progress on gay civil rights indisputably brings positive cultural change. LGBT people have better, easier lives in equality- friendly places. The only gay people disinterested in changing the laws tend to be fearfully closeted folks whose lives aren’t open enough to take advantage of equal rights. Thus, they feel threatened and lash out blindly with internalized homophobia because a progressive equality culture is leaving them in the dust.

  51. say what says

    fred the majority of the debt is from republicans

    bush tax cuts over 4 triilion of current US debt

    Irag and afganist and around another 2 trillion in debt

    6 trillion was hold over from Bush 1 and reagan which clinton intended the surplus to pay down but bush jr blew

    there is 12 trillion of US current 14+ trillion debt all from repubs

    stop with the LIES! already

    repubs don’t care about US debt per Cheney’s comment “Reagan proved debt doesn’t matter”

  52. anthonyj says

    @DJ: There are gay conservatives who say how much they believe in small govt, low taxes etc. and that is most important to them. Then vote for the moderate Democrat. Why side with the enemy camp? No matter how liberal the Republican candidate is, Republicans will never fully support gay issues or fully support a candidate that supports gay issues AND – MOST REPUBLICANS WILL NEVER TRULY SUPPORT YOU!!! As Chris Matthews said, Republicans base part of their platforms on anti-gay family values to keep gay folks away!! Don’t you get that? THEY DO NOT WANT YOU! It’s like you are the person who crashes the dinner party without an invite when no one there wants you.

  53. Mary says

    Why does no one here seem to understand that an organization that “softens people up” toward a new idea will often take years to see the effect of its efforts? No offense, folks, but we’re all adults here. Political change takes time. Historically speaking, gay rights is proceeding at a very rapid pace. The Mattachine Society was formed in the 1950’s, but Stonewall didn’t happen until 1969. Right?

  54. Bobby says

    You know what RICK, that “single issue” voter BS is hilarious and the worst excuse for self hating homosexuals there is.

    Yes, gay republicans are “single issue” voters and that issue is to vote against anything they feel fuels their own internalized homophobia.

    Funny that you think the opposite of “daddy issues” is effeminacy.

    Yes, we can tell you’re a “republican” and guess what baby, if you’re having sex with men you’re just as gay as the rest of us and no political label is going to change that or make you more accepted among heterosexuals. They’ll just see you as a pathetic wanna-be.

    The ONE ISSUE that rethuglicants hate us for is that we’re homosexual and that is their only thought.

    You and your ilk, Rick, are pathetic.

  55. Fred says

    Mathews is dead wrong. Log Cabin has openly and strongly supported same sex marriage for years. Our web site and documents make that clear. Our public statements have never veered from that position.

  56. Fred says

    Mathews is dead wrong. Log Cabin has openly and strongly supported same sex marriage for years. Our web site and documents make that clear. Our public statements have never veered from that position.

  57. Bobby says

    Alan, that’s the worst BS ever. Were slaves supposed to be grateful to be owned or blacks grateful to just be breathing? Why the hell would anyone think another person should tolerate discrimination and abuse? STFU!

  58. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  59. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  60. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  61. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  62. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  63. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  64. andrew says

    Gay republicans are like Dignity Catholics: they are people who desparately want to belong to organizations that HATE them. It is a form of pathology.

  65. andrew says

    This site would be so much better without the rantings of littlekiwi, ratbastard, rick, mary, nullnaught and all the demogogues. However, this site and others perform a valuable public service. They allow those crazies to blow off steam harmlessly and thus cause no real physical harm to others in society.

  66. A Hornaday says

    Actually Log Cabin Republicans 1. Filed a lawsuit challenging DADT, 2. Engages state chapters across the country to support marriage equality 3. Has been lobbying for the repeal of DOMA, and 4. Is lobbying for GOP support on ENDA.

    The fact is LCR not only support pro-gay policies, but takes an active role in advancing them. These folks need to get their fact straight.

    Besides, aren’t you folks glad there is a pro-LGBT voice in the GOP?

  67. andrew says

    @Hornaday: A Log Cabin republican makes about as much sense as a Black KKK member, a Jewish Nazi or a Dignity Catholic. Don’t belong to organizations that hate you. Fight them.

  68. says

    @A HORNADAY: They deserve credit on the DADT lawsuit. Unfortunately, they’ve been unsuccessful shifting the mainstream Republican party in a pro-gay direction, it’s more anti-gay than ever. So, they can keep on trying, but thus far their influence has been pathetic, in part because they still support anti-gay candidates, putting their Republican interests ahead of their human dignity.

    But, hey, if some guys must be Republicans better to be openly gay ones talking equality than one of the typical Republican closet cases working silently against the interests of all gay people, including themselves. They’re the true sc*mbags.

  69. Mary says

    Andrew, how do I qualify as “crazy?” I went from an anti-gay poltical position to a pro-gay political position. Shouldn’t someone like you view this as finding my sanity, “evolving” or “growing”, or joining the 21st century? When I said that there are those who should take a patient, long-term success approach I didn’t say that this had to be EVERYONE. The world needs militant types as well. The LGBT community should have a lot of different types of activists working using as many different approaches as can be helpful.

  70. Tarc says

    The term ‘gay Republicans’ doesn’t make sense to anyone that hasn’t been brainwashed. It’s not like the Republicans are the ‘fiscal responsibility party’ or anything close to that anymore. And unless you’re making almost $250K a year, they aren’t putting money in your wallet either (and that’s been proven). Really, for the 95%, there isn’t a single valid reason to vote Republican – they’ve gone off the deep, deep end into severe Christian fundamentalism, and thaty serves no one.

  71. GeorgeM says

    “Romney also pledged to set up a presidential commission on religious liberty to investigate the alleged harassment of opponents of same-sex marriage.”

    What an effing tool!!

  72. CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON says

    I DO NOT UNDERSTAND Log Cabin Republicans [LCR]. HOWEVER, IF YOU ARE A HOMOSEXUAL REPUBLICAN WITH A STRONG INTEREST IN POLITICAL ACTIVISM, LCR IS ONE OF FEW OPTIONS AVAILABLE. AS A REPUBLICAN HOMOSEXUAL ISSUES LIKE, “PRO-LIFE” AND SELF-INDEPENDENCE, ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN LEGALIZING WHAT IS CONSIDERED “DEVIANCE.” LCR’s FLAW IS SUPPORT OF HIV/AIDS INITIATIVES AND, NOW, “gay” MARRIAGE AND ADOPTION – ISSUES WHICH SHOULD BE HANDLED BY “liberal-gay” ORGANIZATIONS. I WOULD HOPE A HOMOSEXUAL REPUBLICAN IS SOMEONE WHO VALUES TRADITIONAL VIEWS OF OLDER GENERATIONS. OUR SEX LIVES [NO SAFE SEX] ARE THE ONLY ISSUE WHICH SHOULD OPPOSE THESE TRADITIONAL VIEWS.

    CHRISTOPHER ALLEN HORTON

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