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  1. says

    well the GOP, as always, runs on a platform of “we’re the real americans, cuz we’re white and pretend we care about Jeebus!”

    this is not new. it’s dirty business as usual.

  2. Scott says

    Massachusetts, we begrudgingly forgave you for Scott Brown because Martha Coakley was such a horrendous candidate. But if you re-elect him over the progressive hero Elizabeth Warren, we are dumping you over text message.

  3. Scott says

    Oh don’t play the faux-naif, Rachel, any reasonable person can see that Elizabeth Warren does not in any way resemble (either ethnically (blue eyes?!) nor demographically a Native American. His accusation that she used perhaps some distant roots in order to gain advantage on university admissions is probably valid. Affirmative action is meant to address past discrimination but as a white woman Elizabeth in no way herself suffered such discrimination and perhaps that sort of action makes a mockery of affirmative action.
    Now…using it as a cheap tactic in a campagin as a way to discredit her character? LOW and uncalled for – it really lowers him in my estimation.

  4. Derek Schmidt says

    “His accusation that she used perhaps some distant roots in order to gain advantage on university admissions is probably valid.”

    This statement is completely irresponsible. Here’s the truth:

    Warren, who graduated from the University of Houston in 1970 and got her law degree from Rutgers University in 1976, did not seek to take advantage of affirmative action policies during her education, according documents obtained by the Associated Press and The Boston Globe. On the application to Rutgers Law School she was asked, “Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?” “No,” she replied.

    While a teacher at the University of Texas, she listed herself as “white.” But between 1986 and 1995, she listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Faculty; the University of Pennsylvania in a 2005 “minority equity report” also listed her as one of the minority professors who had taught at its law school.

    The head of the committee that brought Warren to Harvard Law School said talk of Native American ties was not a factor in recruiting her to the prestigious institution. Reported the Boston Herald in April in its first story on Warren’s ancestry claim: “Harvard Law professor Charles Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General who served under Ronald Reagan, sat on the appointing committee that recommended Warren for hire in 1995. He said he didn’t recall her Native American heritage ever coming up during the hiring process.

    “‘It simply played no role in the appointments process. It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty,’ he said.”

    ——————

    Get the facts, Scott. Casual speculation and accusation don’t serve anyone.

  5. RyanInWyo (formerly RyanInSacto) says

    Hey Scott: Elizabeth Warren never used her heritage on any of her applications. None. There was no affirmative action at play here. What part of that don’t you understand?

    Also, it’s not impossible for someone to have a mixture of European and Native American heritage and yet still have blue eyes and blond hair. Did you ever take a basic biology course that explained how genes are expressed? I mean, as a Republican Senator, I understand that Scott Brown has to eschew science, but it is not necessary for the rest of us to do that too.

  6. says

    If it is her heritage wouldn’t that make her a lot more American than Brown who is obviously of European stock?
    In any case, why does he want to go that route? Isn’t it similar than claiming President Obama is a Muslim or born in Kenya?
    Republicans ought to stop this kind of nonsensical attacks…talk about the issues like why does Brown vote consistently with the Republicans when it is against the wishes of his constituents.

  7. RyanInWyo (formerly RyanInSacto) says

    Nico, do you know something the rest of us don’t know? You must have some proof that Elizabeth Warren’s lineage includes no Native Americans. Please share with us!

  8. Billy Crytical says

    If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Elizabeth Warren is not even 5% Indian if she is at all. There are a lot of people who claim to be Indian yet are not. So it’s ridiculous for her to claim being Indian. Just because you have big cheek bones doesn’t make you an Indian.

  9. RyanInWyo (formerly RyanInSacto) says

    Wow, a lot of people on this board have access to Elizabeth Warren’s genetic information. On top of that, they think acting like a racist lunatic is an appropriate way to campaign against a political opponent. It’s a real treasure trove of brilliant thoughts on this comment thread.

  10. Derrick from Philly says

    Billy & Nico:

    Does President Obama’s Irish ancestry show in his appearance?

    The excerpts from the debate show that Scott Brown came across as dope for bringing up the issue out of no where. Then, he went on to try distance himself from everything Republican.

    He certainly should call Warren “professor” because he comes across as an empty-headed freshman compared to her.

    As for the “war whoops and tomahawks”? Archie Bunker is alive and well in Massachusetts. They’re an embarrassment to drunks everywhere.

  11. MarkUs says

    Big Chieftess Have-um High Cheekbones
    She’s a liberal idiot. I love the fact that she channels loud and clear she wants your paycheck. No BSing this one. She’ll lose like Coakley.

  12. mike8787 says

    Who are these conservative people, like Markus, who read this blog? Do they think they’re providing some service to anyone, but providing the anti-intellectual counterpoint? It perplexes me that people with socially regressive views would bother to read these posts, let alone comment.

  13. Caliban says

    Though I look like the typical American with a Scots/Irish background, when I was growing up I was always told that my great-grandmother on my father’s side was Cherokee. Like Elizabeth Warren I never bothered to question it. Years later someone did a family history and it revealed that she was a mix of white, Native American, and black. Her complexion (based on black & white photos) was dark-ish, but not to the degree you’d say, “Oh, she’s obviously black” and her hair was straight. She probably would have passed the “Paper Bag Test.”

    Obviously somewhere along the line it was decided that it was “better” to say she was Cherokee and leave out the black part. In fact some of my more redneck relatives were appalled by the fact she was part-black, idiots that they are. So I can sympathize with Warren for believing the stories she grew up with, never questioning them.

    During the Civil War era charities that collected money for “slave children” often used the lightest skinned children they could find because they were felt to be more sympathetic than dark skinned children. Look at these photos of slave children and tell me what race they are.

    http://71.45.131.15/originalpeople/blog/view/13046/images-of-white-looking-mixed-race-slaves-used-to-drum-up-sympathy-among-wealthy-donors-in-1860s

    They were considered “black enough” to be slaves because at least one of there parents was a slave. Race and genealogy is far more complicated than it seems, and things aren’t always as they appear.

  14. White Lady Speak With Fork Tongue says

    Oh c’mon. That was kinda funny. And Pocahontas has it coming to her.

    As for her alleged Native American status not being a factor in her hiring, I’d say it was more like icing on the cake. Her being female was definitely a factor. Harvard got a two-fer, or thought they did. And I’m not even saying she’s not intelligent and capable, just saying.

  15. Gry says

    Scott Brown’s official campaign song:

    Half-breed, that’s all I ever heard
    Half-breed, how I learned to hate the word
    Half-breed, she’s no good they warned
    Both sides were against me since the day I was born

    We never settled, went from town to town
    When you’re not welcome you don’t hang around
    The other children always laughed at me “Give her a feather, she’s a Cherokee”

  16. says

    Scott Brown sounds just like a cheap low class peddler of what ever he perceives will give him an advantage with his audience.
    he will say anything to advance himself…..remind you of anyone ?

  17. RandySf says

    This blog desperately needs a non-anonymous comment system. The comments on this article are beyond offensive.

  18. Fester says

    At least one of the commenters is ignorant. I know people who are 1/8 Native American who look white, with blond hair and light skin and European facial features.

  19. Redebbm says

    I don’t know why Scott Brown is not getting more heat for this. It is reprehensible he is playing this card to assert he is the better candidate. Also using the Professorial add on to get his base riled up is obviously working. I’m am maddened though at the assertion that Warren is “too white” to have a past heritage of cherokee. As a Mixed child of white & mexican parents I just can’t help but think these republicans clocks are running out of time. I let people jokingly say “you’re too white to be mexican,” but it shouldn’t be challenged beyond that. Did Scott Brown grow up with Warren? NO. He shouldn’t be challenging this. At the end of the day he has nothing else to run on, being another DO NOTHING republican.

  20. Nick Name says

    I totally agree that this blog needs a non-anonymous comment section. The racism is rampant today. GOProud is out in full force tonight hiding behind the safety of their keyboards. Sickening!

  21. Nick Name says

    Rather than coming up with valid intelligent arguments to make a point the neocon trolls on this site resort to their usual bitchy tactic of racist, sexist, self loathing homophobic mockery.

  22. Rich says

    Elizabeth Warren’s ancestry is what it is, and I have no reason to believe that she has misstated it. It’s not that big a step from requiring her to deny it to requiring us to deny our sexual orientations.

  23. says

    My grandfather is half Mexican and half Blackfoot. His skin tone is a very deep brown.

    My grandmother is half Mexican and half Navajo, yet she is very light skinned.

    Race isn’t always apparent on the surface.